Looking at possibly picking up a current model Element A50 in the sales to do a custom build on, much as I did with my current 2019 Element A50 back in early 2020...
I don't race XC (and if I did, I've got many kg's of mass to lose myself before a bit of frame weight makes a difference), but what is the frame weight difference between the Alloy and the Carbon frames, like for like...?
I went through the same dilemma 4 1/2yrs ago and have been more than happy with my 2019 A50 frame, it came in around 600g heavier than a carbon version from all the info I could find, which with the spec it ended up with, meant a sub 12kg bike I can ride all day and have a lot of fun on.
If the difference for the 22+ model is similar (or hopefully even less), I'd be similarly happy with not splashing out for the carbon version. I'd rather spend money on the wheels, contact points, brakes and drivetrain than just a few hundred grams of essentially "dead" mass in the main frame weight, but if it's more like 1kg or more difference as it is on some bikes (my Carbon Orbea Wild eBike frame is around 1.5kg lighter than the alloy version I found out, which blew my mind!) then I would be more inclined to spend the difference on the frame in the first place...
I see there's a few weights around 2250-2400g for a medium-large carbon frame inc. Float DPS shock on the build thread on this forum... Anybody weighed their bare alloy frame to compare?
I don't race XC (and if I did, I've got many kg's of mass to lose myself before a bit of frame weight makes a difference), but what is the frame weight difference between the Alloy and the Carbon frames, like for like...?
I went through the same dilemma 4 1/2yrs ago and have been more than happy with my 2019 A50 frame, it came in around 600g heavier than a carbon version from all the info I could find, which with the spec it ended up with, meant a sub 12kg bike I can ride all day and have a lot of fun on.
If the difference for the 22+ model is similar (or hopefully even less), I'd be similarly happy with not splashing out for the carbon version. I'd rather spend money on the wheels, contact points, brakes and drivetrain than just a few hundred grams of essentially "dead" mass in the main frame weight, but if it's more like 1kg or more difference as it is on some bikes (my Carbon Orbea Wild eBike frame is around 1.5kg lighter than the alloy version I found out, which blew my mind!) then I would be more inclined to spend the difference on the frame in the first place...
I see there's a few weights around 2250-2400g for a medium-large carbon frame inc. Float DPS shock on the build thread on this forum... Anybody weighed their bare alloy frame to compare?