Flow Mountain Bike have a comparison of frame weights to other manufacturers:

• Specialized S-Works Epic EVO - 1,659g
• Orbea Oiz OMX - 1,740g
• Scott Spark RC HMX SL (OLD) - 1,799g
• Specialized S-Works Epic - 1,869g
• Scott Spark RC HMX SL (NEW) - 1,870g
• Cannondale Scalpel Hi-Mod - 1,910g
• Trek Supercaliber - 1,933g
• Santa Cruz Blur 4 - 1,933g
• Giant Anthem Advanced Pro 29 - 1,983g
• Canyon Lux CF SLX - 1,922g
• Merida Ninety-Six RC - 2,064g

These are claimed weights for a Medium sized frame with all hardware and rear shock.

On Test | The 2022 Scott Spark adds integration, travel, and weight

The 4th generation Scott Spark has been unveiled, and with its hidden rear shock design and integrated cockpit, we reckon this has to be the cleanest full suspension XC bike on the market right now. Read on for everything you need to know about the new 2022 Scott Spark RC and Spark 900.

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I hadn't heard that the Specialized was lighter than the 2017 RC SL. If those numbers are correct that's impressive at 1/4lb lighter.

 

In this video at 3:15 I can see a chain guide for Nino's bike, although no chain gide is mentioned in the scott website 🤔 Can this be a case of "sold separately"?

 

I think the 120/120 suspension and a heavier frame is a deal breaker to me. Not all XC courses demand such “down-country” configuration. I’d totally understand if it were an “EVO” option, not the RC model.
I really hope they don’t mess with the new Scale RC too, but I am not very optimistic about it.

 

The bike looks great, but as some as already stated this bike is overkill in specs and overweight for the kind of XC riding I usually do.
So yeah... Where's the new Scale hardtail?

 

I hope that new TwinLoc lever is compatible with older bikes. I will definitely get one for my Genius.

 

Can't see why not.

 

Anyone have info about when orders can be placed, availability, delivery dates, etc

 

I was told that my order has to be in Monday July 12 to get ANY Scott next year. And that's considering that the Spark is the only 2022 we've seen. Any other models need to be ordered sight unseen. I'll be ordering a Spark non-RC.

 

I asked at the shop. No info on anything related to this new model.
The only thing I was told was make sure you KNOW if you want one when that order opens, because it’s 2021 and getting one from the first or second batch will be a challenge.
Plan accordingly.

 

It sounds like the supply chain will not be back to normal for at least a year or two. I know other brands are stating no known ETA on getting bikes this year. Sounds like there may be a smattering but not much. Hope you get the bike you want! [emoji106]

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Ordered the Spark 900 AXS 😁

 

Nice! What is the ETA? I’m hearing 2022.


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Nice! What is the ETA? I'm hearing 2022.

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Yep, March/April. Other models (like the 910) might be available sooner, but supply is very limited. I really want to try the AXS gears though so figured it's worth the wait!

 

I ordered my son a Scott Spark RC Team Issue AXS, fully prepaid because supposedly the pre-paid orders get filled before deposit only orders. No idea when it shows up though!

 

I have a bridge to sell you.

 

Has anyone seen frame weights for the HMX and HMF Sparks? It sucks there's only one build with the HMX SL and one with the HMX. I want the lightest frame but don't want to pay for AXS, Syncros Silverton wheels, and Piccola brakes only to then try to sell them.

 

chart with weights

 

Hi all, i've ordered a RC Team Issue AXS Spark, S size.
as this version doesn't comes with a dropper,
wondering if anyone already got a S size that can tell me what dropper will you put on?

 

Has anyone seen the stem length of the handlebar that's included with these bikes? I'm specifically talking about the non-RCs. Hoping for 50mm cuz it looks like you really want to run the stock bar.

 

I got a call from my US dealer this morning. He says he will get his first “allocation” next week. He says he will be told what he can get in the “first round” not just order whatever he wants. I asked for a Supersonic, World Cup, or SL in that order.
He’s been told nothing about the new Supersonic just announced. No idea if it will be a frameset like last year’s or a complete bike. As long as I can get a large frame I’ll adapt.

 

A bike shop in Portugal told me the ETA for the Spark is late December early January, with limited frame sizes. So, it's 5/6 months of waiting. And I'm ordering the world cup evo, plus some parts exchanged. Probably with the Silverton SL2 wheels and power meter.
Anyone has reviews on the Silverton SL2 wheels? Are they strong enough?
On the website there's no info about the SL2, they should be 30mm inner width and slightly heavier than the 26mm version?
And to finish the super clean cockpit, add a zirbel shifter with a blipbox, that should fit easily inside the frame box of the shock.

 

I heard these are with dt240 internal

 

Yep looks like it'll have the 240 hubs as requested by the Scott-SRAM team.

Syncros one-piece carbon Silverton SL wheels go wide & lighter! 30mm internal for Nino & Kate - Updated!

Those crazy light 1-piece carbon Syncros Silverton SL wheels get wider, with new 30mm internal to be raced by Nino Schurter & Kate Courtney!

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Can't find any diference between them besides a couple of grams and the ceramic bearings.

 

any idea if it's possible to remove the dropper post lever from twinloc?

 

It's supposedly removable.

 

What's everyone's reasoning between the regular Spark and Spark RC this time? I wouldn't have considered the RC in the past, as the 100mm travel wasn't enough for my type of riding. Now it's got the same 120mm rear travel as the regular Spark.

As far as I can tell, the differences for the more trail oriented Spark mostly comes down to:

• Fox vs RockShox suspension front and rear, 10mm additional front travel on the regular spark.
• Wider bars (760mm vs 740mm)
• Riser cockpit, vs negative rise
• 4 piston brakes vs dual piston (might depend on model)
• Schwalbe Wicked Will tyres, more trail oriented vs the Rekon Race on the RC.
• Dropper post on most models, unlike the RC where it's only available on the RC Pro and upwards.

As I wrote, I have ordered the regular Spark 900 AXS. I don't do any XC racing, so I think I will have more fun with the Spark, but I think the RC looks much more compelling this time. From the reviews, it appears plenty capable.

Did anyone test them both?

 

"The other differentiating factors between the two versions are smaller, more linear rear shock for the RC cross-country bikes and slightly larger-volume, more progressive shocks for the 900 down-country bikes. "

"And while the rear shock size and stroke is the same between the two bikes, the shock's used on the Spark 900 employ a higher volume air can to improve sensitivity and comfort."

 

In my case... I switched from a regular Spark to a RC a couple of years ago, thinking "it's time for me to race XC", and it turned out that I didn't race that much as expected haha. So I was thinking to switch to a more trail oriented bike again. But in my humble opinion, if what it's being said in paper is true, the new Spark would be ideal for me, more robust, it will give me more confidence, and fully capable for XC racing when the time comes. WDYT?

 

Absolutely.
The bike should be more comfortable and sturdier. Light enough for XC too.
I say buy it and have fun! 😊

 

First ride one on my new Spark 910. Very impressive bike. It is an absolute beast on the climbs compared to my old Trance 29. Downhill it seems just as capable and very poppy. Looking forward to putting many more hours on it

 

Photos please! 😁

 

Only have one pic at the moment. Let me know what details you want to see

 

Only have one pic at the moment. Let me know what details you want to see

Looks great, very stealth. Looking forward to your review after you've put some miles on it.

My uncle has a 910 on order, so I should hopefully get to test it out soon.

 

do you need to lock the suspension on the climbs?

 

Got some very discouraging news from my local Scott dealer yesterday. The regional rep (4 states) allocated only six bikes to him for the “first round.” All RC Sparks but all lower build levels and random sizes. He decided to pass, says he doesn’t want to have to explain to everyone asking for one why he can’t get the size they need or variation they want.
He told me to call another local dealer and he was a little more optimistic but not much. I have had eight Scott bikes since 2005 and all but one were somewhat difficult to order and obtain. I love the product but their distribution has been sketchy for 16 years now. I’m happy for you in other parts of the world who are getting bikes, the US is still no man’s land.

 

@mtbscott I'm following another thread in a spanish forum [Fotos] - SCOTT SPARK 2022 and things are the same there. For what I've read, it's a global issue, not just for the US or Scott.

 

@mtbscott I'm following another thread in a spanish forum [Fotos] - SCOTT SPARK 2022 and things are the same there. For what I've read, it's a global issue, not just for the US or Scott.

Yeah, but in the USA Scott's have always been tough to get. When the RC SL came out in 2017 I had a hard time getting a frameset. In recent years the shop I go through has told me they no longer bring framesets to the USA. I was just in the Portes du Soleil region and Scotts were everywhere. Definitely different in Colorado.

 

Poll time.
If you had to choose between the SPARK RC WORLD CUP EVO AXS and the SPARK RC SL EVO AXS which one would it be?

 

I had a 2018 SL and my '21 Supersonic is an SL, but the new one at $13999USD is too much. The World Cup EVO for $4K less is a much better deal. Unfortunately my chances of getting either aren't looking good do to supply issues.