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Stratoliner

While I have a certain love/hate for the C-130 (having spent WAY too many hours on them) the name of the Stratofortress seems appropriate, but in all honesty I like the ring of "Stratoliner" just seems to "fit" the style of a 29"er

First flown in late 1938, the Boeing 307 was the first airliner with a pressurized fuselage. It could carry 33 passengers in great comfort and cruise at 6,096 meters (20,000 feet), while maintaining a cabin pressure of 2,438 meters (8,000 feet). This enabled the Stratoliner to fly above most bad weather, thereby providing a faster and smoother ride.
(NOTE: "providing a faster and smoother ride")

The Stratoliner incorporated the wings, tail, and engines of the Boeing B-17C bomber. The wide fuselage was fitted with sleeper berths and reclining seats.

SO I'm going with Stratoliner first and Stratofortress a close second
 
Stratoliner

Airborne made already a Stratoliner, and after crimping the Ti stays, thats what my rear KENDA claw is turning in.
Been spending most of my time on the roadbike recently though.
BTW, Who would want to glorify equipement made to kill?

NoDunut4U said:
While I have a certain love/hate for the C-130 (having spent WAY too many hours on them) the name of the Stratofortress seems appropriate, but in all honesty I like the ring of "Stratoliner" just seems to "fit" the style of a 29"er

First flown in late 1938, the Boeing 307 was the first airliner with a pressurized fuselage. It could carry 33 passengers in great comfort and cruise at 6,096 meters (20,000 feet), while maintaining a cabin pressure of 2,438 meters (8,000 feet). This enabled the Stratoliner to fly above most bad weather, thereby providing a faster and smoother ride.
(NOTE: "providing a faster and smoother ride")

The Stratoliner incorporated the wings, tail, and engines of the Boeing B-17C bomber. The wide fuselage was fitted with sleeper berths and reclining seats.

SO I'm going with Stratoliner first and Stratofortress a close second
 
Call me Al

SpinWheelz said:
It oughta be called the 'AL-29'. Keeps the spirit of the 29 reference in the name, while being very direct with what sets this frame apart from its titanium sister model. You maintain strong brand identity, it's a name that's easy to remember, easy to say, easy to ask for.

I win.
If you'll be my bodyguard
I can be your long lost pal
I can call you Betty
And Betty when you call me
You can call me Al

Or B-29 AL maybe. :)
 
How About Neptune

You can read that "The first aircraft designed in 7075-T6 was the Navy's P2V patrol bomber" here:

https://www.key-to-metals.com/Article95.htm

See a nice pic of one here:

https://www.aerofiles.com/lock-p2v.jpg

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It's nickname was "Neptune" the same way the "Hercules" is also the C-130.

The Neptune is a bomber, not a mere cargo plane, which is what the Hercules is. Also, Neptune is the god of the sea, so you got your divinity. He was god of the sea, but also of earthquakes and horses. He was known for riding. They did not have bikes back then, so he had to settle for riding dolphins and horses. Plus, he looks totally buff in all the statues you see of him.
 
mvi said:
BTW, Who would want to glorify equipement made to kill?
Ummmm.... That would be Airborne... And just because equipement _can_ kill does not mean it _has_ to kill, or can ONLY kill.

The Military Sealift Command (MSC) combat stores ship USNS San Jose (T-AFS 7) continues to be a vital part of the tsunami relief effort, and is currently on station off the coast of Sumatra, directly supporting the MSC hospital ship USNS Mercy (T-AH 19).

A little closer to home, Airmen with the 437th Airlift Squadron used a C-17 Globemaster III to transport releif supplies for victims of Hurricane Charley in FL.

Nice troll..... But let us not drag this thread into a geo-political debate, shall we?
 
Guitar Ted said:
I would like a crack at this! If we are stuck with WWII monikers, and we don't have to go with "B- 29", then I would opt for P-38, the plane called "Lightning". That way I could put what the Germans called it on the top tube- forked tailed devil! Ha!
The Phantom was an A-4 IIRC. Not sure how it would suit the marketing types, but wasn't the P-38 nick-named the Widowmaker?
 
SocalSuperhero said:
My suggestion is the B-26 Marauder. Not only was it a fantastic performing medium bomber, but it was also fast, sleek, and sexy.

Trivia Bonus:
-The Martin B-26 Marauder was constructed from a semi-monocoque aluminum alloy fuselage fabricated in three sections.
-It was ordered straight off the drawing board, no prototypes were built.
-The Marauder had the lowest loss rate of any Allied bomber, less than one-half of one percent.
-A half a dozen of these aircraft are still in use in Canada as water bombers for fighting forest fires.
-26 is the atomic weight of aluminum (actually 26.98, but who's counting)

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You can't have "26" in the name of a 29"er. That is just blasphemy.
 
Well...

in keeping with the aircraft theme, my favorite plane of all time is the Douglas DC-3 otherwise known as the Dakota, so there, my vote is for:

Dakota

Side note, the DC-3 also known as the C-47 helped a great number of people after WWII during the Berlin Airlift. Maybe the "Airborne Dakota" can help a great number of people in the 29'er movement. Wow, now I'm just getting cheezy... :D

Or, in keeping with the C-47 airlift theme...

the "Airborne Airlifter"
 

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TT-35 Mosquito

Ok, hear me out on this one. The TT-35 Mosquito, a WWII plane flown by the RAF, was a fast attack plane. Although it was not a heavy bomber like the B-29, it still did precise damage. There is an instance in WWII where they hit a prison where French resistance fighters were imprisoned by the Germans. The hit the outside wall allowing the prisoners to escape. I believe that somewhere in the neighborhood of 200 prisoners escaped to fight another day against the Germans.

Another interesting fact about the TT- 35 Mosquito is that it was made of wood, a different material than most other airplanes of the day. I guess you could bring the relation over to the B-29 as it is made of Ti and the Mosquito is made of Aluminum, a different material. The interesting thing about the Mosquito is that it was not shot down very often due to its high speed.
 
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Dakota, that's the one that's being marketed as a flying museum club thing in the Netherlands now. Dutch Dakota Association. I think it looks like a school bus :)
Dunno what the Hercules looks like, but a good chance to just mention the name again :)

Wow, all those WWII aircraft names, but still at some point Airborne's going to run out of good allied names.
How about the Messerschmitt BF-109? There's a 9 in the number...
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UCIrvineRoadie said...
Ok, hear me out on this one. The TT-35 Mosquito... Although it was not a heavy bomber like the B-29, it still did precise damage. There is an instance in WWII where they hit a prison where French resistance fighters were imprisoned by the Germans. The hit the outside wall allowing the prisoners to escape. I believe that somewhere in the neighborhood of 200 prisoners escaped to fight another day against the Germans.
As well as several hundred children, teachers and staff that were killed in the school next door when one of the Mosquitos crashed into the building. The following pilots mistook the school for the target and bombed the **** out of it.

Mosquitos were built here in northern Wisconsin during WWII as we had/have a "secure area" and plenty of pine that was used in their construction.
 
get your facts right

Caffeine Powered said:
As well as several hundred children, teachers and staff that were killed in the school next door when one of the Mosquitos crashed into the building. The following pilots mistook the school for the target and bombed the **** out of it.

I believe you are mistaken in this.
The Amiens prison was isolated from the township and was a sucess even though several Mosquitos were shot down. Some prisoners were killed, but a large number escaped, many of whom that were due to be executed within days. The bombing was so accurate that only two squadron waves were needed (464 amd 487, New Zealand and Australian I believe), and the third wave was called off due to their accuracy. The group leader, Group Captain 'Pick' Pickard DSO, DFC CzMC was shot down by Focke Wulf 190s. He was 28, his co-pilot Bill Broadley was 23.
I think your are confusing this raid with the bombing of Gestapo headquarters in Copenhagen in which a tragic error did occur and a school was hit with ensuing loss of life.
By the tone of your post, it would seem that you regard the killing of civilans a greater evil than trying to rid the world of the tyranny of the Nazi ideology.
Don't lose sight of the fact that whenever possible, Bomber Command would endeavour to warn civilians to stay away from factories and other targets etc to minimalise lose of civilian life, either through covert messages to the Resistance when possible or by more dramatic and dangerous means eg 617 squadron leader Lenoard Cheshire VC, on several occasions dived his Mosquito to rooftop level and buzzed the target of the day to give warning to civilian workers that a raid was imminant in order to give them time to escape.
Rembember these aircraft were flying at rooftop level at 300mph with only seconds to pinpoint their targets, usually flying through extremely heavy and accurate anti-aircraft fire to achieve the result.
Most of these aircrew were 18-25 yrs old and over 120,000 allied aircrew, British, Commenwealth and American lost their lives over Europe.
For the most part they were young, scared and doing the best they could, but in war mistakes happen.
It is easy to be revisionist from our comfortable and cosy 2005 perspective and lose sight of the sacifices they made and what they went through.
I don't mean to get on your case, but while the school bombing was a tragity, one that the Danish people accepted as part of the cost to rid themselves of their Nazi overlords, I think it is disrespectful to those engaged in the fighting, especially those who lost their lives, to be critised by revisionist thinking, especially when you misreprensent the facts.
The Amiens prison raid stands out as one of histories most successful and accurate bombing raids. More was at stake than just the sucess of the raid, it served as a beacon to the peoples of Europe that Britain hadn't deserted them in their darkest hour and was prepared to take the fight to the den of the beast.
I think it would be unfortunate if people, through your post, link this raid in their minds with the killing of school children.
 
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