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Who's riding with a 36t Chainring?

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Whatup AM folks? I'm currently in the process of revamping my drivetrain a little, and I'm curious what other peeps think who ride similar style. I'm taking off the big ring and replacing it with a bash guard on my Prophet. Right now I have a 32t middle ring, and it feels pretty solid. I prefer doing my techy climbing in that ring because it reduces wheel slippage.

With the removal of my big ring, I am considering replacing my 32t with a 36t middle ring so that I can still hammer on the downs. The only thing is, I'm a medium sized guy (5'10 160 lb) and I'm not sure if the 36t will be overkill. The 32t still feels pretty good, but I'm not sure if I'll miss the bigger gears in the long run.

Any thoughts from anyone else who has been through this one? Thanks all

Lev
 
#3 ·
A lot of bikes now set up with 2 rings and I know on my Gemini that I spin out 32 and that a 36 would be better.
If you dont have problems climbing on your small 22 then you could upside to have a 26 and 36 rings.
On my hardtail (Azonic DS1) I ran a chainguide on a 32 with a 11-34 cassette to have enough gears to climb and decend but grunt and grind or walk really steep climbs.

Good riding
 
#4 ·
36/24 front (with bash)
11/32 rear

BLT with
Pike 454
XO
King and Easton componets.

Never really missed the big ring (44). :thumbsup:

Cheers
Ecka
 
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I recently got rid of my 44 ring and replcaed it with a bash and currently have 22/32. I do most of my climbing in the 32 ring and on about 98% of the downhills don't miss the 44. The other 2% are fast fire roads and mellow flat XC type terrain - this is where I start to miss the 44 and I am also thinking of a 34 or 36 gear. The switch would make it more difficult to do very steep climbs though.
 
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At the end of last year I asked the same question. By the end of the season, I got pretty strong from riding a singlespeed and found I was spinning out my 32T on my geared bike (big ring replaced with a bashguard) regularly. I bought the 36T ring, but didn't get around to installing it until ~2 weeks ago. I was off the bike all winter and spring, and the 36T is too big now (I was falling back to the granny for practically all the climbs on a recent ride), so I'll be swapping the 32T back at least for a month or two.

I didn't find a big difference in shifting from the 22T to the 36T (RaceFace Atlas crankset with RF rings), especially since going up would normally done without a load. Shifting down just worked.
 
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I'm runnin' a 26-36t-bash & e13 DRS w/an 11-34 cassette.:rockon: Race Face rings on :aureola: Saint cranks. Jumping from 32 to 34 mid ring = no prob.:thumbsup: 34 to 36 very :yikes: noticable. 22 to 24 granny = no prob. 24 to 26 very:eekster: noticable. If possible, but not necessary, try to stay w/in 10 teeth of ea. other on your chainrings. Drive trains are sorta developed around that perameter :eek:ut: I think. 26 & 36t rings, for me, required a staught leg. Steep, long, drawn out climbs will build your endurance w/those chainrings AND make you a very :yesnod: effecient climber, IF you :prft: got th' fitness fer it.
 
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#9 ·
I went with a larger chainring for the very same reason on my big bike. I was spinning out on the faster downhills in the bike park. Probably not as big of a deal with my AM or XC bikes, but it is something I'm considering when my chainrings wear out.

22 - 36 up front - Race Face and Blackspire chainrings
Truvativ 36 T bashguard
11- 34 in the back
Holzfeller cranks
Blackspire stinger chainguide

I've had no issues with shifting between the 22 and 36, but I was anticipating that I'd need to move up to a 24 or 26 in the granny when I got it. So far, so good with the 22-36 combo. In all honesty, I'm not shifting my front all that often on rides. It's granny for climbs and middle ring for descents as we do lots of climb and drops.

Cheers,
EBX
 
#10 ·
Anyone else heard of staying within 10 teeth of eachother on the chainrings? Sounds unfamiliar. Can't imagine that making any difference granted the chain is long enough.
 
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Lev said:
Anyone else heard of staying within 10 teeth of eachother on the chainrings? Sounds unfamiliar. Can't imagine that making any difference granted the chain is long enough.
yeah....some say 10T and some say 12T. It doesn't matter about the chain length because you set that for your big ring (whatever the size is).

Basically, the concept is that you shouldn't have too big of a jump between chainrings to avoid shifting issues. That is why I said I expected to have issues when I went with 22-36 (a 14T difference), but I haven't had any problems yet.

Cheers,
EBX
 
#12 ·
ebxtreme said:
yeah....some say 10T and some say 12T. It doesn't matter about the chain length because you set that for your big ring (whatever the size is).

Basically, the concept is that you shouldn't have too big of a jump between chainrings to avoid shifting issues. That is why I said I expected to have issues when I went with 22-36 (a 14T difference), but I haven't had any problems yet.

Cheers,
EBX
Shiftin' issues is exactly :yesnod: what I was talkin' about. Sorry I didn't clarify. Sometimes chains will drop off of th' granny when you shift from mid-ring to granny. I've got RM Reaper ht w/22-32 rings on it an' it will drop a chain faster than a vet will bust a cap into a dixie chicks tour bus.:lol:
 
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#14 ·
I run a 24/36t with an e13 DRS bashguard havent missed the big ring yet, but you do have to be careful about crossing up the chain. So normal chain ring rules apply when shifting and if your front derailer isnt set up perfect with the e13 DRS shifting to the 36t is hell on your drivetrain so I would suggest getting the 36t but set it up the right way.
 
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my FR/heavy duty TR bike has 22/36 combo up front, and evil guide. works very well, upshifts well. race face 36T ring, FSA granny, FSA cranks.

there's this common myth that a 14T gap is too much, but if you ask around you'll find a lot of riders (i'm tempted to use the term 'core') in high-vert terrain (cali, colorado) using this setup. I almost have started using this question as way to separate the good bike shops from the less knowledgeable.

for the climbs i do, there's no way i'd go bigger than a 22T granny. at the same time, for the descents 32 is too small.
 
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#19 ·
fumanchuchu said:
I just switched from 22-32-44 to 26-36 and I love it.
You can hammer pretty fast with a 36 and the 26 climbs with less slippage than a 22.
:thumbsup: EXACTLY!!! :rockon:
 
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#20 ·
22/34 front, 11x34 back, can maintain high teens (20+ in outright sprint) on flats so pedalling harder than that for downhills simply not required.

I put on a BlackSpire DH ring for the 34 - no pins and ramps for shifting, but shifts just fine from the granny up, and less possibility of chainsuck when things are grimy. Works great.

Only downside I've found so far is the increase in chain slack when on the smaller end of the cassette, that would not be there with a big-ring. If it's a long run I just shift up the cassette and don't worry about pedalling so much. :D
 
#21 ·
I run a 22t-36t-bash guard on a VP Free and a Turner 6 Pack. Set up works fine on both bikes and neither was difficult to set up. I ditched the 32t for a 36t because I was spinning out on some downhills. Kept the 22t granny because most of my rides include lots of steep/tough climbs.
 
#22 ·
22-36-bash and 11-32 here.

The 36t ring makes more sense than a 34t, feed it into a gear calculator and you'll see why.

still shifts w/o problems (LX front der), just make sure you get a quality chainring with good ramps.

shimano front ders are officially built for gaps up to 12t, but they can take 14t.
 
#23 ·
So what would be a good quality chain ring with solid ramps in your opinion. Planning to order the goods soon and I'm considering a Salsa or a shimano. I need a 4 bolt. Was checking out Race Face, but I think all theirs were 5 bolt. Suggestions?
 
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I've got a 19T Granny on my ancient rigid DB Topanga

frorider said:
for the climbs i do, there's no way i'd go bigger than a 22T granny. at the same time, for the descents 32 is too small.
Back in '86 I bought a bolt -on hub that fit in front of your smallest chaintooth ring, called the "Mountain Tamer" that would take any freewheel ring you wanted to use as a chainring, (back when you could build your own freewheel). I ran a 19-24-32 front (and since I couldn't use the outer-ring anymore it became my bashy).

I never missed the "outer" ring and loved the "super" granny here in Front Range CO. Of course my freewheel set was only 11-32. All of my rides were "grind it up", super techy down. Pedal on a downhill ?? What for, you're already going dowhill and where I ride I'm usually not going much faster down than up except on a few "flats"

Anything bigger than a 36 chainring is for the XC crowd.
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But now I have a new Prophet 1000 FS ride and crank it to the max whenever the trail slightly tips down hill. I still keep the speed down in any tech section but love the feeling of really ripping down the smooth sections now w/a FS bike :D
 
#26 ·
22t/36t/bash e.13 DRS

I just recently moved from a 32t to a 36t and I do notice a difference, but it's all good. I haven't had any problems with shifting (XT front der and X.9 rear der. / X.9 triggers) and 11-34t cassette, XT cranks with Blackspire 36t.

I definitely notice a difference with the 36t yet i'm still able to ride most of my trails in the 36t ring. The 22t still allows me to climb just about anything and the 36t gives me the extra power when i need it. I'll see if I keep the 36t ring during the winter. May switch back to 32t b/c I seem to slow down a bit during the winter months.

-enduro
 
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