[Muse MTB]

The big difference between our bikes too is that you have a light short travel trail bike frame and I have a big hitting 180mm tripple clamp rated frame

Even if we compared the equivalent mtbs they would be a few pounds apart light weight trail compared to big hitting superenduro.

The rise is a good trail bike. But its going to tap out roughly when my bike starts to shine.

FYI by daughter has an orbea ride. It's a cool trail bike. But its way under gunned for my shenanigans.

100%...that is why something like the Ibis Oso appeals to me as a 4th bike... a true dedicated bruiser, where being playful and fun on the trails surrounding me is irrelevant. Iv'e seen some reviews and details on Crestlines and they look pretty hardcore.

The 38x170 really upped the performance of my Yeti SB 5.5 (the bike I stole it from) over the 36x160 it came with, as that fork felt like it wanted to fold under me on big hits. I landed nose heavy on a 30 footer and thought it was going to break. I prefer hardtails, so rear burliness is not a big factor to me...It just made sense to put that fork on the Rise when I got it, and the Yeti is back to its 36x160. My SC Chameleon hardtail runs a 36x150 Factory (from the Rise stock build) and is still my favorite bike EVER. Nothing says rowdy and fun like an overforked hardtail trying to chase big bikes down legit trails.

 

[Muse MTB]

Since I am in gym mode for another 4-6 months, I won't be doing any real shenanigans...at least not beyond the limits of my current line up. And at almost 55, not sure I really need to be sending it on 40' jumps or bashing down extreme rock gardens...

 

[bdamschen]

This is a stupid thread because it's just basically a venue for asshole 15 year olds to troll.

The thing is, there is some knowledge to be had. I tried my best to contribute before the douche parade shoved their way in.

 

[plummet]

The funniest thing in this thread are the "anti's" arguing that they should share their opinion even if they haven't ridden one or only demo'd one when the title is "what have you learned from OWNING an e-bike?" But clowns gonna clown I guess...

What "anti's"?

I don't see any responses on this thread..... hehehehe.....

 

[plummet]

This is a stupid thread because it's just basically a venue for asshole 15 year olds to troll.

Coming on 15yo's dont even know forums exist. They are too busy uploading their latest crash to tiktok.

If there's any trolling, which i for some unknown reason can't see....., its full grown men acting out!

 

[kevjob]

The thing is, there is some knowledge to be had. I tried my best to contribute before the douche parade shoved their way in.

this is why I try to resond to the ebike threads in case someone on the fence or curious about them gets some real world advice from someone who has both a full power and mid power emtb despite the clown fragile ego trolls it does get tiring with the MOTORCYCLES claims or the bs arguments from the trolls who have not ridden one but are 100% sure what they are.

 

[plummet]

this is why I try to resond to the ebike threads in case someone on the fence or curious about them gets some real world advice from someone who has both a full power and mid power emtb despite the clown fragile ego trolls it does get tiring with the MOTORCYCLES claims or the bs arguments from the trolls who have not ridden one but are 100% sure what they are.

Just put em on ignore. Then a lot of the noise goes away.

Those trolls typically don't have anything useful to add to the forum otherwise. So you loose anything by not seeing their content.

 

[Flyer]

My local trails are pretty twisty and really steep. I cannot go fast enough uphill to get my HR up anywhere close to my regular MTB. I use it for mellow rides and zone 2 anyway so it works amazingly well for that, I did two similar rides- 2,300+ ft in around 10 miles total. Took about two hours. On the Ripmo, my average HR was 152 and max 181. I was not going all out but pushing somewhat hard. On the E, it was a bit faster and all in ECO with max power turned down to 50nm and -1 assist (default is 85nm max and 0 Assist, I think). My average HR was 116 and max was 135. I'm in my mid 50s. That's sort of what my rides are like on each type of bike. If I push on the E, my average will go up by 15 BPM.

 

[plummet]

I used to be that way. But recently I decided that I’d interacted with some select members enough times over this topic, and there’s nothing I can say that I haven’t already said, and no amount of logic will reach them. It was a waste of my time to continually see their nonsense and either make effort to ignore it or respond. I have better things to do than argue with unreasonable people — like riding bikes and e-bikes!

Same. I don't mind some good hearted banter. But can't be bothered even reading the guys responses that go full troll. As you say, there is no changing their mind, they are only out to get a get a negative response. And its the same illogical ignorant shjt every time.

There's zero loss putting them on ignore. It just cleans up the threads and removes fucktardery.

 

[plummet]

same

although "even" should be changed to "especially" when they go full retard....lol

I used to have this policy. But simply got tired of toggling past the same old shjt. Its like listening to someone tell the same bad joke 100 times in a row. There's no new arguments. Its that same shjt that's been regurgitated thread after thread after thread thread after thread after thread thread after thread after thread thread after thread after thread thread after thread after thread thread after thread after thread thread after thread after thread thread after thread after thread thread after thread after thread thread after thread after thread thread after thread after thread thread after thread after thread thread after thread after thread thread after thread after thread thread after thread after thread thread after thread after thread thread after thread after thread thread after thread after thread thread after thread after thread thread after thread after thread .....

 

[not2shabby]

I have a no ignore policy. If someone wants to share on the internet and I have time to kill, I'll read it even if they go full-retard. A stress free way to go about it is to accept that you're not gonna change anyone's minds on the internet. Not even about how they perceive you.

Well said! I try to contribute useful information when I can and ignore what isn't.

 

[Steve Adams]

Just put em on ignore. Then a lot of the noise goes away.

Those trolls typically don't have anything useful to add to the forum otherwise. So you loose anything by not seeing their content.

That's what I did, there are only a few, now it's crickets. WONDERFUL!

 

[Varaxis]

Coming on 15yo's dont even know forums exist. They are too busy uploading their latest crash to tiktok.

If there's any trolling, which i for some unknown reason can't see....., its full grown men acting out!

The main warning sign that I've found:

Rigid beliefs that culminate in an attitude problem when differing ideas are offered.

These rigid beliefs seem to be so revealing that they can be considered their identity.

I used to think that one can be a flat-earther, anti-vaxxer, vegan, carnivore, or whatever kind of meme conspiracy theorist, and not be a problem as long as they're not violent. Apparently, if left unchecked, we get stuff like meme believers in positions of authority, ones that are like bullies in pushing their beliefs into the main view, and don't feel the resulting consequences for their stupidity should apply to them.

You saying that you just put these types on ignore... I tried to find a word for these types in general. You know what's relatively common but gets ignored? "Plain" stuff. I used terms like purists in the past. Karen and boomer are overused, seemingly. I wonder how they'd react to being called plain.

 

[Kitsanic]

I don't know if "predatory" is fair. I mean, you don't have to use their services. They fill a need for people who really want to ride their own e-bike. If I wanted to ride an e-bike in another country I'd just rent the entire bike there.

If you cant bring your own battery due to flight rules and they charge almost as much as a full bike rental it is, but then again if youre going to the trouble of brining your own bike to another country via airline then you should really do your research!

 

[plummet]

I don't know if "predatory" is fair. I mean, you don't have to use their services. They fill a need for people who really want to ride their own e-bike. If I wanted to ride an e-bike in another country I'd just rent the entire bike there.

The problem with renting a bike is that it wont be set up for me or be as good as what I have. Do I want to go to another country hire a pos? No! is the answer.

The reality is, until sensible shipping options for batteries are available, i'll be taking mtb's overseas. Not the E.

 

[Nat]

If you cant bring your own battery due to flight rules and they charge almost as much as a full bike rental it is, but then again if youre going to the trouble of brining your own bike to another country via airline then you should really do your research!

The battery rental is roughly half the price of renting a complete bike, and fortunately you have the option of not traveling with your own e-bike.

 

[twowheelmotion]

The ebike thing I am learning recently is that dudes I ride with only want to ride the same hamster wheel that we had zero problem riding on mountain bikes. All the time. To me, that is really frustrating. I get that the few times weekly lap is great being a dad with a career and all. But there comes a point where the amortization of equipment with a definite half life like an ebike becomes wasteful riding the same stupid lap every single week just aging the bike riding the same stuff. I know, I'm crazy. But I spent decades as a mountain biker saying to myself "would be cool to ride x-y-z area" and everyone wants to ride THE SAME SH*T. I dont even want to get started on the mountain bike rides. The text said mountain bike. Dude shows up on ebike. Not ok.

Also FWIW, the users I have blocked were all banned. One user in particular that I should have blocked, but didn't, played right into my estimation and was banned (several times over) but I'm sure that user will be back. Other than that, I don't mute.

Rant//

 

[In2falling]

KoM'ed aisle 5, set PR on aisle 8 and managed to get in a few extra laps this morning.

 

[twowheelmotion]

KoM'ed aisle 5, set PR on aisle 8 and managed to get in a few extra laps this morning.
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You forgot to tell us all about your singlespeed. Or maybe you were going to in the next post?

 

[Nat]

The problem with renting a bike is that it wont be set up for me or be as good as what I have. Do I want to go to another country hire a pos? No! is the answer.

The reality is, until sensible shipping options for batteries are available, i'll be taking mtb's overseas. Not the E.

I agree, a rental bike (or any other bike) is not set up like my own bike. I'd rather ride my own bike of course but the hassle of transporting it by airplane is great enough that I'd rather rent. In places like Whistler you can rent a high end bike with high end components and I can get used to it enough to enjoy it for a few days. I try my best to not let the equipment ruin my experience. I like that the battery rental company fills a niche for people who don’t want to compromise their equipment. $48USD or so seems like a fair price to me, especially if I’ve already spent thousands on the international trip already.

Here I am having a great old time on a rental ebike and Ill-fitting rental skate helmet (LOL) a few months ago in Italy:

Here I am on a rental in Whistler (because my own bike broke in a crash that trip):