you could get the damper tuned for the pike or get a new mezzer and reduce travel to 150mm

 

I still like my 2016 Pike, did not change a thing.
A ZEB is a great fork too. Or a Mezzer.

One has to set preferences.

 

150mm is the target travel size.

I haven't considered anything other than the Rockshox and probably won't go outside that brand. Nothing against any of the others, I am just not that educated on forks or anything outside Rockshox or Fox.

My Knolly Fugitive has the Rockshox Super Deluxe Ultimate rear shock, so I kinda want to keep the brand the same on the fork as the rear shock.

 

you should consider other forks. Fox and RS don't offer anything better than others TBH. other makes can have considerably better air springs and dampers. look at all the people complaining about fox & RS creaking or getting fancy new air spring mods or damper tuning.

 

wouldn't recommend any of them

 

You are attempting to get my OP off topic. I didn't ask for your opinion on anything other than what I had mentioned in my OP. Please stay on topic and not recommend anything other than what I have asked for.
Thanks

 

If you like the pike RC, your face will melt if you try damn near anything else. The RC had a pretty wonky tune that was generally found to work very poorly.

The fork itself is great and has plenty of potential. I would get at least a new charger damper, or a retune, or avalanche. You're missing out on a significant amount of performance.

A new pike ultimate is certainly an option too, but its basically what you have already, but with a strange spring that works oddly (your luftkappe is better). You could get all that same performance with a damper upgrade.

 

If you like the pike RC, your face will melt if you try damn near anything else. The RC had a pretty wonky tune that was generally found to work very poorly.

The fork itself is great and has plenty of potential. I would get at least a new charger damper, or a retune, or avalanche. You're missing out on a significant amount of performance.

A new pike ultimate is certainly an option too, but its basically what you have already, but with a strange spring that works oddly (your luftkappe is better). You could get all that same performance with a damper upgrade.

If I buy new, it will more than likely be a Lyrik just for that extra bit of stiffness as being reported. However, I've never felt my current Pike to be a wet noodle. I wasn't overly impressed with it out of the box. When I put the Luftkappe on it, the shock changed quite a bit to more of my liking.

My Pike now is a flat black finish and I'd like to have the gloss black finish as what is being offered now. I can have the finish on my current fork changed to the gloss, but at an expense. My current Pike is 120mm and will need to be changed to 150mm. If I tune it further, change the travel and have it refinished I'd be pushing the price of a new fork.

 

If your current airspring is at 120 you will also need a new one. I'm not sure it the new charge 2.1 fits the first pike. It fits the B1 at least.
If you go in to trailhead.rockshox and put in your serial nr, you should get a list of the upgrades you can du to that fork. You can also use the sparepart list to find what fits your fork. But if you need new airspring, new cartridge and services kits, pluss oils, and maybe someone to do the jobb you are getting closer to just buying a new fork. If you can do the work yourself it saves some money. If you do all this and put the 2.1 cartridge in you basically have a pike ultimate.
I think I would sell the current fork, and buy a lyric as you already have suggested.
A third option I would really consider is sending it to avalanche and get costume fork

 

2.1 cartridge does not work in my current fork. I'll do upgrades to a new fork if I buy one. I may just go ahead and purchase a new one so I don't have to deal with changing the the air shaft to 150mm and getting the lowers refinished.

All new bikes all new parts

 

I just went from a 2016 Pike with an Avy damper and debonair air spring I've loved to a Pike Ultimate with the hsc lsc adjustments and it's really impressive I have to say compared to what an older generation stock Pike was.

 

I did the same. I went from avy 2016 pike w/ luft and mrp ramp cart, to 2020 pike ultimate. They're both great forks, but I'm happy with the ultimate.

 

New bike - new fork. At no point will you regret getting a new lyric ultimate.

I'm a big fan of luftkappe for all of my fox and RS forks, get what you need to install that when you do your first lowers service.

 

Thanks everyone. I'm just going to go with a new RS Lyrik Ultimate. I'll do some upgrades to it when they become available. I'm not sure what all is available for the newer forks just yet. I will definitely keep it air and not coil