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Suggesting Transition bought a large batch of old faulty forks or that Spurs are ridden harder that other bikes with Sid forks?
There is a batch of SIDS that have issues. Spur or no Spur. However on Pinkbike I see a lot of Sids for sale that came off a Spur.
Yea sure. Just thought you had a theory of why Spur forks where over represented.
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Regarding ongoing SID issues, it could be a number of different things.
1. "Cheap, light, durable - pick two." The SID is one of the lightest forks on the market and is reasonably priced compared to the competition. You can buy a brand new SID Ultimate for €650 here in Europe - A top end Fox 34SC is at least €1200. How do they offer it so cheap? Use less durable materials perhaps?
2. "Design flaws." I've seen rumours banded around (perhaps on this thread) that the bushing overlap isn't so good at the start of the stroke, leading to premature bushing wear. Hard to quantify this but I'd have presumed RS would have ironed out any issues like this after the first faulty batches. However, when profit comes before all else, some accountant in the RS back office might have just calculated that it's cheaper to keep bashing out warranty repairs than to pay for a redesign / retooling.
3. "Fork being used outside of its intended usage." There's two iterations of the new SID; 35mm (110mm / 120mm) and 32mm (100mm only). An XC race fork designed for XC racing. Sure, modern XC tracks have features that wouldn't look out of place on a downhill track, but XC racers also have the luxury of a team of mechanics to rebuild their suspension after every race, and sponsors who fund those repairs. Your average weekend warrior riding local trails doesn't have that luxury.
Plenty of riders on the Specialized Evo / Trek Top Fuel / Canyon Lux are complaining about the bushing issue so its not an isolated case. When the fork works its one of the best out there so I would love to see RS get on top of this, even if it means adding a few more grams to the weight.
1. "Cheap, light, durable - pick two." The SID is one of the lightest forks on the market and is reasonably priced compared to the competition. You can buy a brand new SID Ultimate for €650 here in Europe - A top end Fox 34SC is at least €1200. How do they offer it so cheap? Use less durable materials perhaps?
2. "Design flaws." I've seen rumours banded around (perhaps on this thread) that the bushing overlap isn't so good at the start of the stroke, leading to premature bushing wear. Hard to quantify this but I'd have presumed RS would have ironed out any issues like this after the first faulty batches. However, when profit comes before all else, some accountant in the RS back office might have just calculated that it's cheaper to keep bashing out warranty repairs than to pay for a redesign / retooling.
3. "Fork being used outside of its intended usage." There's two iterations of the new SID; 35mm (110mm / 120mm) and 32mm (100mm only). An XC race fork designed for XC racing. Sure, modern XC tracks have features that wouldn't look out of place on a downhill track, but XC racers also have the luxury of a team of mechanics to rebuild their suspension after every race, and sponsors who fund those repairs. Your average weekend warrior riding local trails doesn't have that luxury.
Plenty of riders on the Specialized Evo / Trek Top Fuel / Canyon Lux are complaining about the bushing issue so its not an isolated case. When the fork works its one of the best out there so I would love to see RS get on top of this, even if it means adding a few more grams to the weight.
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I came to pretty much the same concluson. Thus i switched to the Fox 34 (non step cast) and have not looked back one second
I ran the 34 at 120mm intitially and upgraded to 130mm now, which i like very much on the spur!
I'm even tempted to try a 140mm airspring just to see if the geo will get too much out of place
the sid on the other hand went to Rockshox for warranty, and was sold after it came back.
I ran the 34 at 120mm intitially and upgraded to 130mm now, which i like very much on the spur!
I'm even tempted to try a 140mm airspring just to see if the geo will get too much out of place
the sid on the other hand went to Rockshox for warranty, and was sold after it came back.
I probably saw yours for sale on pinkbike. [emoji16]I came to pretty much the same concluson. Thus i switched to the Fox 34 (non step cast) and have not looked back one second
I ran the 34 at 120mm intitially and upgraded to 130mm now, which i like very much on the spur!
I'm even tempted to try a 140mm airspring just to see if the geo will get too much out of place
the sid on the other hand went to Rockshox for warranty, and was sold after it came back.
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I have an aftermarket SID on my singlespeed that started developing bushing play a few weeks ago. Unfortunately, I don't have the original purchase receipt since I bought it on PB (It was new, uncut, still in the box) so my LBS is telling me I will have to pay for the new lowers and service to fix the bushing issue.
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Just bought one of those Bike Yoke Squeezy seatpost clamps because they do a proper 37mm diameter one which fits the Spur perfectly. Just went to fit it now and the titanium bolt snapped in two! My calibrated torque wrench was set to 3nm and the maximum torque spec on the seatpost clamp stated 4.5nm. Going straight back.
The hunt is still on for a decent 37mm seatpost clamp.......
The hunt is still on for a decent 37mm seatpost clamp.......
Is it just that you want something fancy or do you have anything against the oem?
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The OEM one looks and feels a bit cheap and over time has started slipping a bit. I've tried the Wolf Tooth 36.4mm clamp but it was too tight a fit than I was comfortable with. Have been recommended the hope clamp but again, that only comes in 36.4mm. As far as I can see, Bike Yoke is the only well-known company doing a proper 37mm clamp.
Apparently Orbea now have some frames with a 37mm seat tube so hopefully at some point we might see other companies releasing compatible clamps.
Ok, good to know.
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Hello everyone,
Really considering the Spur as my next bike, but trying to determine if I have the right impression of who it’s for.
I have been riding for about a year now, with my first bike being a 21 Giant Trance X 29 2 that I bought used on a bit of a whim. I live in Indiana, and so far have only ridden within the state (favorite trails so far are Brown County State Park for anyone familiar). I’ve found I primarily enjoy flow trails and small jump lines, but also enjoy climbs and putting miles in on more XC oriented trails. Does this sound like a good fit for the Spur?
My Trance X has a Fox 36 with 150 mm in the front, and 135 mm in the rear. I love the geometry, but I feel as though I’m definitely over-biked for my area and skill level. I am enjoying the bike, but at some point feel as though moving to a bike with less travel and weight would make my rides a bit more exciting.
Right now, my biggest concern with the Spur is my size. I’m about 6’2 and 230 lbs. My goal is to get back down to around 200 lbs where I’m most comfortable. Any feedback from riders around this weight? Have you had to swap out the SID for something more substantial?
Really considering the Spur as my next bike, but trying to determine if I have the right impression of who it’s for.
I have been riding for about a year now, with my first bike being a 21 Giant Trance X 29 2 that I bought used on a bit of a whim. I live in Indiana, and so far have only ridden within the state (favorite trails so far are Brown County State Park for anyone familiar). I’ve found I primarily enjoy flow trails and small jump lines, but also enjoy climbs and putting miles in on more XC oriented trails. Does this sound like a good fit for the Spur?
My Trance X has a Fox 36 with 150 mm in the front, and 135 mm in the rear. I love the geometry, but I feel as though I’m definitely over-biked for my area and skill level. I am enjoying the bike, but at some point feel as though moving to a bike with less travel and weight would make my rides a bit more exciting.
Right now, my biggest concern with the Spur is my size. I’m about 6’2 and 230 lbs. My goal is to get back down to around 200 lbs where I’m most comfortable. Any feedback from riders around this weight? Have you had to swap out the SID for something more substantial?
No offense but I think you are to heavy, especially for the Sid fork. Shaving 30-50 lbs of yourself is going to make it much more fun climbing the nice bike that you have already. If you only ridden for 1 year I also suggest you start experimenting with tyres. Faster rolling tyres mage a huge difference, and per dollar spent it is no question that this is what you should start with. After tyres newer lighter wheels are next in line (these can also follow you to your next bike as long as you stick with regular boost and not superboost+ 157mm).
Just my 2 cents.
I’m 6’2” 205 on an xl spur. The great thing about the spur is it’s a very versatile bike, shorter travel with good geo. I’ve done everything from local xc series to a long day in Pisgah. My only gripe with the bike has been the Sid fork. Initially I had bushing play that was fixed under warranty, then my front tire washed and hit and tree at low speed (10-12mph) and bent the csu that cost $330 to fix. I opted for the pike which has a burlier chassis and sold the Sid. Hope that helps.
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In the stock setup (i.e. SID fork and suspension), if you visualise the line of intended usage (XC Race-----XC-----Trail-----Enduro-----Downhill/Park/Freeride) the Spur sits somewhere between XC and Trail.
Throw some burlier suspension on there and you've got a proper short travel trail bike. The frame is plenty strong and weighs upwards of 500g more than the other racier 120mm carbon downcountry bikes (Oiz TR / Blur TR / Trek Top Fuel / Epic Evo).
It really is a versatile platform if you're looking for a double duty bike, but won't perform as well at the extremes (XC Race / Enduro).
If you don't race competitive XC but love the big miles and big climbs, and don't ride any extreme terrain, then the Spur is an excellent choice. Your weight won't be a problem whatsoever for the frame, but yeah, play it safe and go for a custom build with a 120mm Pike and Deluxe or Fox 34 and a DPS.
Throw some burlier suspension on there and you've got a proper short travel trail bike. The frame is plenty strong and weighs upwards of 500g more than the other racier 120mm carbon downcountry bikes (Oiz TR / Blur TR / Trek Top Fuel / Epic Evo).
It really is a versatile platform if you're looking for a double duty bike, but won't perform as well at the extremes (XC Race / Enduro).
If you don't race competitive XC but love the big miles and big climbs, and don't ride any extreme terrain, then the Spur is an excellent choice. Your weight won't be a problem whatsoever for the frame, but yeah, play it safe and go for a custom build with a 120mm Pike and Deluxe or Fox 34 and a DPS.
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Or Rocky Element with the Fox 34 - have had zero issues with the 34, unlike the 3 SIDs I've had with bushing play
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