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Some more Straggler info:

$550 frameset MSRP
$1850 complete bike MSRP

September availability for both framesets & completes

Colors: Glitter Dreams, Black (both colors available on framesets & completes)

Sizes: 42, 46, 50, 52, 54, 56, 58, 60, 62, 64 (!!)

No word on geometry yet. I'm eager to see it!
 
The Straggler looks great. I'm looking for an IGH friendly commuter bike. :thumbsup:

I need to buy a new FS MTB first, but the Straggler seems like a good option to keep on deck.

Although I'd need to budget for some new Sparkle Pony decals. ;)
 
Some more Straggler info:

$550 frameset MSRP
$1850 complete bike MSRP

September availability for both framesets & completes

Colors: Glitter Dreams, Black (both colors available on framesets & completes)

Sizes: 42, 46, 50, 52, 54, 56, 58, 60, 62, 64 (!!)

No word on geometry yet. I'm eager to see it!
Really? So the complete is more $ than an All City Macho Man disc, but the frameset for the Straggler is cheaper. And if the Macho Man comes with 105 and the Straggler with Tiagra (based on pictures) then that doesn't make the Straggler complete a very good deal.

Waiting to see what Surly releases for complete specs.
 
That's pretty expensive for complete... At least here where I have to pay same in euros. Tiagra and CroMo is rarely this expensive, right? Assuming that's how it'll be.
 
Usually Surly's completes are a competitive price, so I'd think that price is not right.

Raleigh Roper - 105 - msrp $1499
Specialized Steel Tricross Elite - Tiagra - mrsp $1650
(no, those prices and spec aren't backwards, Specialized is just sort of.... "special".... in there pricing)
 
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Yeah, I'm not too keen on that price-point. I'm not paying $2k for a bike with Tiagra. Although, we're all still speculating anyway, right? I mean, it could come out with 105 or be a less expensive msrp.

Potential bummer.
 
Yeah, I'm not too keen on that price-point. I'm not paying $2k for a bike with Tiagra. Although, we're all still speculating anyway, right? I mean, it could come out with 105 or be a less expensive msrp.

Potential bummer.
I was ready to drop some cash off to the LBS for one today, but on this news I'm somewhat hesitant, especially since they don't have an MSRP yet. They were guestimating somewhat lower than what was posted above.

I'm going to have to wait on some type of build specs before I pull the trigger. I wasn't expecting something super cheap, especially given the ED coating, but I was expecting it to come in under the All-City MM Disc.
 
I'd go with the All-City Macho Man Disc over the Vaya. But neither of those can be setup singlespeed without a tensioner.
 
So is there actually a geometry sheet out for this? I would think they should if they are asking for preorders, I wouldn't want to order unless I could see those specifics, especially since they have changed some things compared to the CC, slightly longer Headtube and lower BB I think were good ideas, though I've liked the ride and fit of my cross check since I've had it, since 2001(bean green)
 
CC is available for ÂŁ799 in some shops, and I can't even tell is there anything I absolutely prefer on the Straggler, considering what sort of bikes they are.
 
This bike looks like it meets all my current wants/needs in a new bike. I just hope it stays in a somewhat affordable price range and has at least one or two more color options. I'd hate to pass on this just because its purple but...I would.
 
Charlie is taking preorders.

Price is quite high with those parts. Especially before any geometry info.

Hope they release the geometry etc. soon.
Very hard sell at that price point based on the information that we've been given. It either needs to have much better components or be a lot cheaper.
 
This bike looks like it meets all my current wants/needs in a new bike. I just hope it stays in a somewhat affordable price range and has at least one or two more color options. I'd hate to pass on this just because its purple but...I would.
It is available in black as well, confirmed by my LBS.

That said, I'm waiting on Surly to put out the build specs. All the recent pics point to a Tiagra build, but the MSRP points to 105.

If the complete is more money than the Macho Man disc (which comes with 105) but is all Tiagra, then I'll be doing the frameset option. If I want Tiagra, I can just swap that over from my existing cross bike...which I paid (brand new) ~1k for and came with Tiagra STI's and a 105 derailleur.

I'd really like to get a complete and save myself some hassle, but Surly, if you're putting Tiagra on at this price point, I think you might be making a bad move.
 
Just ordered the Frameset from my LBS. Knad tires weren't available yet so I'm gonna wait a couple weeks and have them order me some parts for the build. I'm not sure on some of the parts for the build but I have some time to plan it out. I plan to ride it around the city and from my house to trail heads then get a few miles of trail riding in, Gonna try SS for a while and see if I can tough it out.
 
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