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Needs two mounting points on the rear for rack and fenders, but other than that looks pretty awesome.

EDIT: NVM, I see in this pic that there is another point on the seat stay further up. Nice!

 

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I like the reported taller head tube, but otherwise I have no interest in this over my CC. The CC's dropouts allow easy single speed gear changes, without adjusting the brakes, which look like a big PITA with this frame. Then again, I don't really see the need for discs outside wet or snowy mountain biking.
 

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If I was looking for a brand new bike, I might consider this... the biggest reason for the disc brakes to me has nothing to do with breaking power... but it's easier to put the wheel in and out with discs than my Tektro 720 canti's. I need to loosten the straddle wire or deflate my tire to remove the wheel with my breaks. They work well, but it's a bit of a hassle. But not enough reason to replace it. Besides, I LOVE my Blark Due CC. The CC has had some of Surly's best colors over the years.

Now the new blue Pugs I have my eye on..... or maybe a champagne moonlander.
 

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I already said this in a different thread, but its worth repeating. The Cross Check is perfect just the way it is. So I don't really see what this bike brings, except that it sates the disc-crazy masses that have been bugging Surly for a bike like this for years. Admittedly, it is a pretty bike and I'd totally get one over the Vaya or the Disc Trucker, if I ever need a heavier and more complicated braking system than one I currently have. And if it gets more people on Surly's, I'm all for it. :smilewinkgrin:
 

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I already said this in a different thread, but its worth repeating. The Cross Check is perfect just the way it is. So I don't really see what this bike brings, except that it sates the disc-crazy masses that have been bugging Surly for a bike like this for years. Admittedly, it is a pretty bike and I'd totally get one over the Vaya or the Disc Trucker, if I ever need a heavier and more complicated braking system than one I currently have. And if it gets more people on Surly's, I'm all for it. :smilewinkgrin:
Yeah but... IT'S PINK AND SPARKLY!!!
 

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I already said this in a different thread, but its worth repeating. The Cross Check is perfect just the way it is.
If you don't need Discs so the rest of the world doesn't need them too?
This a thread *for* and not *against* the Straggler. Go home and stroke your Cross Check.
 

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I'm excited to see a geometry chart. I loved my old CC but it never fit me quite right. Now that I know what I'm looking for, if this is within my ranges, I might be interested. A forth Surly in my garage wouldn't trigger any sort of "intervention" issues would it? :)
 

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I'm excited to see a geometry chart. I loved my old CC but it never fit me quite right. Now that I know what I'm looking for, if this is within my ranges, I might be interested. A forth Surly in my garage wouldn't trigger any sort of "intervention" issues would it? :)
X2 on being super curious a out how the straggler geo compares to the CC. Really hoping for that longer head tube.
 

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I already said this in a different thread, but its worth repeating. The Cross Check is perfect just the way it is. So I don't really see what this bike brings, except that it sates the disc-crazy masses that have been bugging Surly for a bike like this for years. Admittedly, it is a pretty bike and I'd totally get one over the Vaya or the Disc Trucker, if I ever need a heavier and more complicated braking system than one I currently have. And if it gets more people on Surly's, I'm all for it. :smilewinkgrin:
Its a good option for those of us in wet climates where disc brakes shine...don't get me wrong some salamander kool-stop pads work pretty good. Plus you can't beat the simplicity. I still havent replaced my CC....it's in the basement bent in half from an F-250. If I don't pick up a Straggler it will be that dark grey CC with some Paul canti's and dingle speed.

I'm excited to see a geometry chart. I loved my old CC but it never fit me quite right. Now that I know what I'm looking for, if this is within my ranges, I might be interested. A forth Surly in my garage wouldn't trigger any sort of "intervention" issues would it? :)
Nope, its a good whole number so all bikes have a stable mate.
 

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If you don't need Discs so the rest of the world doesn't need them too?
This a thread *for* and not *against* the Straggler. Go home and stroke your Cross Check.
Dude, relax. I never said I was against the Straggler. In fact, I recall writing that it is a pretty bike and I'm all for it if it gets more people on Surly's. I know why people like disc brakes. I just think they are overestimated, especially on non-mountain bikes. But that's a discussion for a different thread. A Disc Check just strikes me as kind of like a Ford Mustang with automatic transmission - looks the same but dumbed down for the masses. That's my initial reaction. Sorry if its not fanboy enough. But I hope Surly sells lots of Stragglers, and I hope that Stragglers win lots of gravel and CX races. And since Straggler has some geometry changes, I can be smuggly satisfied that the Straggler isn't really a Disc Check anyway. Okay, I'm going to go stroke my Cross Check now, because it is an awesome bike.
 

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Dude, relax. I never said I was against the Straggler. In fact, I recall writing that it is a pretty bike and I'm all for it if it gets more people on Surly's. I know why people like disc brakes. I just think they are overestimated, especially on non-mountain bikes. But that's a discussion for a different thread. A Disc Check just strikes me as kind of like a Ford Mustang with automatic transmission - looks the same but dumbed down for the masses. That's my initial reaction. Sorry if its not fanboy enough. But I hope Surly sells lots of Stragglers, and I hope that Stragglers win lots of gravel and CX races. And since Straggler has some geometry changes, I can be smuggly satisfied that the Straggler isn't really a Disc Check anyway. Okay, I'm going to go stroke my Cross Check now, because it is an awesome bike.

I think disc brakes are sweet, but I understand why those who prefer a more traditional build choose to avoid them.

I love our Cross Checks, but I'm excited for, (what I feel to be) increased braking power. I just never felt like the stock cantilevers stopped my bike well, even with Kool Stops. Especially when fully loaded coming down a mountain.

I feel like my front disc check is a good compromise for now. ;)

 

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When I first saw and heard of this I was certain I would be getting the frame ASAP to replace my new CC. After a cooling off period I am not so sure. Yes, I might have opted for this to begin with. I am more than happy with my linear pull brakes. They are easily equal to my bb7s in stopping power even when wet. I do like the longer head tube but don't know what advantage the new rear drop out provides. I'd personally have to get it powder coated but that is just me. Who knows, maybe after I see one. If anything I think for me a Disc Trucker would better suit my purposes....but I know these are only my purposes and opinions. It's great to have so many viable options from Surly to choose from.
 
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