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SS MTB or BMX Cruiser for short woman advice?

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2.6K views 14 replies 7 participants last post by  dblspeed  
#1 · (Edited)
Hi y'all,

I need a little advice on getting a new bike. Here is the background:
Last year I bought a cheap SS MTB (Motobecane Outcast) [EDIT: I have the 26" Outcast not the 29er] and have been riding it regularly for several months. I am 5'2 and female, so I think most of the shortness is in my torso/arms rather than in my legs, although those are short too :) My Outcast is the 15" model. I believe the standover is around 28" and the eff. TT is about 21.5 or maybe even 22.

It felt a little big from the start, so I replaced the stem with a slightly shorter one. But it still stretches me out too far, and I quickly become uncomfortable. I tend to feel like i'm stretching way out to reach the bars, and my thighs tend to smack uncomfortably up into me as I peddle. I feel like I have to crane my neck to look up at traffic.
I could go in and get it fitted, but i've had bad experiences with that in the past (ie, people just trying to sell me a bike rather than really fitting me)

Now as it happens, I bought this bike mainly to see if I would even ride regularly. Well, I do ride a lot. So I would like to get a nicer bike as this one is cheap and yellow and ugly :)
While i'm at it, I would like to get a bike that fits a little better!

Here are my requirements:
1. Must be able to go off-road. Nothing intense, no real DH, just local trails.
2. Must be able to do 4 or 5 miles comfortably in the city.
3. Must fit me.

Here is what I have been considering:

On-One Inbred 14" - With a 26" standover and 21.5 Eff. TT, this frame sounds promising. The TT might not give me much of a break from my problems with my current bike, but the frame geometry might be more normal than the wonky Outcast, so it might wind up fitting better anyhow. Also, I emailed On-One and was shocked by their crazy good customer support. It's a company i'd love to throw some money at.
Downside: No way to test-drive. With no local dealer for their frames that I know of, i'd have to order over the internet. I suppose I could always resell if it didn't suite me, but i'd rather avoid that.

VooDoo Wanga 14" - Only a 20.75 Eff. TT which is very appealing. The standover is listed as 28" which would probably put it right against my nethers (based on my experience with the Outcast), but maybe it's the worth the trade-off for the shorter TT?
Also, ditto the problem of no local carrier to let me test it.

A 26" BMX Cruiser of some kind - Something like an Eastern Traildigger 26 or Volume Sledgehammer. I rode BMX some as a kid, so looks-wise they are appealing. But someone my size might look awful silly on an oversized BMX! They tend to have long TT's, like 22" eff. but i'm wondering if the more upright sitting position (even with seat up) would alleviate that?
Other alternative might be a 24" BMX Cruiser, but i'm not sure if that would make it too hard to keep up with my mates on their 700cc road bikes and/or too hard to be seen by traffic (almost got hit once already this year, don't wish to repeat it) by virtue of being a little lower to the ground.

Finally, another option is a Dirt Jumper. This is appealing because of all the bikes i've mentioned, the stores around me actually keep some in stock, like the Specialized P.1. I would be able to test-ride one (I plan to try the P.1 this weekend). Again, longer TT's than the MTBs i'm looking at, but again I wonder if the frame geometry will make that less of an issue? I've heard in particular that the P. series is especially versatile in regards to riding trails and then popping the seat up and riding around town.

Sorry for the long post. Living in the city, no one seems to really get what i'm talking about at bike shops. They're mostly road bikes and commuters, and I get sorta weird looks :)
So I figured y'all would have the best advice!

Thanks!
 
#2 ·
The only thing I would say about the bmx cruiser or the DJ bikes is that they will probably be a lot heavier and harsher riding than an XC-type bike, plus the geometry is not really designed for long rides. A 24" crusier would limit your tire choices (not a lot of good trail tires available for 24s)
I'd say stick with a 26" wheel XC bike in a 13"-14" size. Watch the ETT measurements though because on some models there is almost no difference in ETT lengths between frame sizes. Though a 21.5" ETT shouldn't be too bad for your height. I think your Outcast is bigger than that (plus at your height, you probably should have stayed away from a 29er anyway)
 
#3 ·
Sorry, I should have specified - I have the 26" Outcast from last year. I would never consider a 29er at my height!

Also, just a note: I have also considered the 14" Surly 1x1 and any of the 13.5" Bianchis. Problem with the Bianchis is I haven't been able to find one to save my life.

Problem with the Surly is I simply forgot to mention it. 21.5 eff.TT and 28" standover.
 
#4 ·
Im getting a 2004 SE Om Flyer (26" BMX) in a trade next week----REALLY looking forward to it. Also, I converted my Bridgestone MB1 to SS, put on a BMX stem and BMX cruiser bars. I guess Im just a BMXer at heart.

Get what you want---who cares if you look silly. I would be the one that actually thought the opposite. I would think: "man, that chick is cool! She's riding a BMX!!"

As for tires, there's a lot of good tires out there for 24". The Maxxis Holy Roller is great offroad and on.
 
#5 ·
krimsonidol said:
Problem with the Surly is I simply forgot to mention it. 21.5 eff.TT and 28" standover.
That's not unusual for a 14" frame. The problem is most of the frames today are designed to handle a 100mm suspension fork (even though they are selling them as rigids), so with the suspension-corrected rigid fork, the front end is still going to be pretty high. Since the standover is measured half way along the top tube, the high front end has a big impact on standover (unless you find one with a sloping top tube). 21.5 ETT and 28" standover may not be a problem at your height, hopefully you can test ride one (or something similar) before buying though. You have to be carefully ordering a bike purely on their measurements though because some manufacturers have really screwy ways of taking these measurements. I recently got a couple of bikes where actual standover was one or two inches more (higher top tube) than the specs showed. Since you mentioned the Inbred showed a standover of 16", one of my recent purchases was an Inbred 456 (different fram from the inbred) and it listed standover at 29.4", but my measurement with a 120mm fork (the mid range for that frame) is slightly over 31" at the mid point of the top tube.
 
#6 ·
manida said:
Im getting a 2004 SE Om Flyer (26" BMX) in a trade next week----REALLY looking forward to it. Also, I converted my Bridgestone MB1 to SS, put on a BMX stem and BMX cruiser bars. I guess Im just a BMXer at heart.

Get what you want---who cares if you look silly. I would be the one that actually thought the opposite. I would think: "man, that chick is cool! She's riding a BMX!!"

As for tires, there's a lot of good tires out there for 24". The Maxxis Holy Roller is great offroad and on.
Man, the OM Flyers are purty! You must be thrilled!

I am less worried about looking silly really, and more worried about a 26" BMX having a TT that is too long for me. That's why I was wondering if sitting position has any relevance to that, like would a seat that is lower relative to the bars (not to the pedals) feel closer to the bars?
If so, I could always put BMX cruiser bars on a mtb ;)
 
#7 ·
Oh, man....I wish you'd visited JensonUSA's website before now! They had on sale some
killer Jamis Exile SS MTB's, with 13" frames on clearance, knocked down from $1100 to $629. True, they were '06 models; do you care? My wife rides (rode) a WSD 47cm Bianchi Eros Donna road bike, and she feels this 13" Exile fits her even better. Look around, one will probably turn up. I am green with envy, 'cause it's way more blingy than my bike...hydraulic brakes, nice suspension fork, Reynolds 631 frame. You'd be set. If you find one, grab it. You won't be disappointed.
 
#8 ·
yeah, the OM Flyer is gonna be sweet. Its not a looptail like the brand new ones, though. But it is aluminum and should be "kinda" light for a BMX and it does have the Landing Gear CrMo forks----which Ive always wanted since I was a kid and was dreaming of having a PK Ripper---Now I'll finally have one 20 years later!

See my profile for pics of the Bridgestone--BMX style. Some updates have been made since that pick was taken. I highly recommend getting a BMX stem if you going to get cruiser bars for it. I had to get a 1" to 1 1/8 quill converter for mine as well.
 
#12 ·
Yeah whatever way I go I think i'm gonna hafta rock the bmx cruiser bars. Just to see the looks i'd get on a Surly or something with cruiser bars, platform pedals, colored bmx grips and matching colored tires. Be all like a BMXMTB monster. Yum.
I plan to use a BMX stem anyway if I get a MTB frame, just cuz I dig the short square stems like that (and the shortness will help with my TT issues).
 
#14 ·
I would have "guessed" that BMX cruisers had a shorter top-tube than a small MTB... ? Maybe not.

I would suggest that a smaller MTB will be better suited to all-round and especially all-day rides than a BMX criuser. YES, there are different sizes of cruiser (Expert, Pro, XXL) but they're not generally set up to be ridden all day. The mud clearance (think of it as tyre clearance) on a BMX will not generally be as good as a mountain bike (whether this matters depends where you live, of course, but On-Ones are designed to keep rolling through Brit winter mud).

Quite importantly:

A BMX will likely have a 110mm or 120mm rear end (rather than the normal 135mm of a mountain bike).This affects your rear hub choice and crank choice;

A BMX will generally not have a rear disc brake mount;

BMX frame geometry will not be corrected for a suspension fork. Maybe you'd like the option to run a suspension fork without making the bike handle like a pig?
[edit] But that keeps the front end lower on a cruiser and so you would have more standover clearance. If you're not intending to use a suspension fork, that might be the better option? [/edit]

This all points to a MTB rather than a cruiser.
Kona, Jamis, On-One and others all do small frames that might fit.
But, from experience, On-Ones are designed to have a long front end and to use a short stem. Maybe this would be an issue? Brant at On-One would give you better advice than I can - bug him with more questions :)