Hi, I was wondering if anyone fit shimano xt M8120 4 piston clliper brakes into their chisel? TIA!

 

Specialized Chisel discussion

Looks to be a great bike for the value, I wish it had the lighter wheel set but that can be fixed. Will they still make an alloy Epic hardtail is the question. Who else wants one? https://www.specialized.com/us/en/men/bikes/mountain/cross-country/menschiselexpert1x/128882

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Get larger rotors.
It triumphs over 4 pistons.

 

New bike day!

 

One speeded my chisel this weekend. Such an awesome ride already but now it rides even better.

 

What size chain ring are you running on the front and rear?

 

Hi again!

Any body here using the m8100 crankset for 1x12? I was wondering if the chainring it came with has an offset? I want to purchase a lighter chainring but cant decide if I need 0mm or 3mm offset for the chisel 2021 model. I measured the chain stay clearance at about 6.5mm with the m8100 crankset with a 34t chain ring. Oh and I'm using the m8100 10-51 cassette. Chain doesn't drop when I back pedal on the 51t.

 

I have the same setup. Shimano doesn’t use offset on the chainring as far as I’m aware. That’s a SRAM thing. Shimano uses spindle length to locate the chainline. So any Shimano chainring built for the m8100 crank will work.


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Has anyone ran a 120mm fork and a 1 deg slacker wolf tooth geoshift headset on their 2021+ chisel? I am thinking about going for more of a trail hard tail and considering either selling chisel frame and going to fuse or slacking out the chisel. The 120 fork and geoshift would make chisel around 66 HTA, which might be pushing the frame limits.

 

Has anyone ran a 120mm fork and a 1 deg slacker wolf tooth geoshift headset on their 2021+ chisel? I am thinking about going for more of a trail hard tail and considering either selling chisel frame and going to fuse or slacking out the chisel. The 120 fork and geoshift would make chisel around 66 HTA, which might be pushing the frame limits.

Yeah that might be pushing it a little. Tons of people have run 120mm with success by that geoadjust set may be a bridge too far. I wouldn’t really be that worried about the head tube but the seat stays chainstays and dropouts on this bike are kind of spindly to be doing anything too crazy. A fuse or the new Roscoe would probably be more up that ally.


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Found another place the frame can creak from. The derailleur hanger/axle thread.

 

does anyone have some long term feedback on the Sid 120 fork on the chisel? I have been running a Reba 120mm for a while on my chisel and considering swapping to the Sid to get a little more stiffness and better dampener.

 

Welp, my Chisel is off to its new owner. 😭

I got an Epic Evo to replace it, though I'm sure I'm going to miss the Chisel. Such a good bike, I think I'm going to end up with another chisel at some point, but for now I've got to thin the herd and rebuild some funds after buying the Epic.



Honestly, the SID 120 is a disappointing fork. Its very stiff in torsion and bending but there's too much compression damping and the negative chamber is too small so it has zero small bump compliance. Also, I never used full travel on it ever. In addition, I never really liked the Chisel at 120mm, I thought it made the front end feel eversoslightly better, but I didn't like how it made the STA slacker and it made climbing worse. Once I bought the 100mm air spring and swapped it onto the SID, I thought the Chisel geometry really shined. I never got full travel out of it with it set at 100mm either, though.

 

Isn't "I never got full travel out of it" a sign that you're running too much pressure?

I don't love the Sid, but it does fit with the Chisel being an XC bike. Fork does tend to sit higher in the travel when stock, but after adding a few spacers it's happier to move deeper into its travel. Doesn't feel as plush as my Fox 34 Rhythm fork but I think that may be expected.

I did have to send my Sid back for warranty, though. There was just so much stiction early in the fork's travel and it would hurt my hands after a few hours. It's still not quite as smooth as my Fox 34, but it's much better than it was.

I have no idea how the Reba feels...not sure if you're unhappy with something about it, or if you're just itching for an upgrade.

 

Isn't "I never got full travel out of it" a sign that you're running too much pressure?

I can go 40% sag and 15psi under the recommendation and still never use all the travel. It defies physics, I just don't get it.

I did have to send my Sid back for warranty, though. There was just so much stiction early in the fork's travel and it would hurt my hands after a few hours. It's still not quite as smooth as my Fox 34, but it's much better than it was.

So running a ton of sag actually helped with my hands hurting, but my hands hurt too when I ran the recommended pressure. Is that a sign that the fork is bad or that its just poorly tuned from the factory?

 

I don’t like how much torsional flex the Reba has. I also have to run higher pressure to keep it from diving into travel. I read some reviews that the Sid was stiff and had good small bump compliance. Sounds like from your feedback I might be better going with a fox.

 

hi all,
first post here im struggling to find the right size for me, maybe you can assist me ;-)…. currently i ride a canyon roadlite which is sort of a gravel bike / roadbike geo with flat bars and 28mm tires. its xl sized. i am 6.2 tall and it suits well. so lets look at the chisel geos and theres the point i struggle to decide between large and xl …. can you see based on the geo chart what could be more suitable for me ?
would be a greaaaaaat help mates 👍
regards
Miro

 

hi all,
first post here im struggling to find the right size for me, maybe you can assist me ;-)…. currently i ride a canyon roadlite which is sort of a gravel bike / roadbike geo with flat bars and 28mm tires. its xl sized. i am 6.2 tall and it suits well. so lets look at the chisel geos and theres the point i struggle to decide between large and xl …. can you see based on the geo chart what could be more suitable for me ?
would be a greaaaaaat help mates 👍
regards
Miro

Definitely XL. I'm 6'2" and I had a L, and it was just a smidge small.

 

For 120mm the new mattoc pro can be considered in the under 1.8kg range with super trick damper and irt spring

I'm perfectly happy with my 120mm r7 pro at 1.65kg. but it needs to be modded to increase the negative chamber volume. And a replacement model is imminent.

Rockshox is not the only suspension manufacturer out there. Though the new Sid seems to boast a more linear air spring with increased negative air volume and better bushing overlap.

My Sid sl had nice small bump sensitivity but just didn't feel nice when the bumps got bigger and I had to send it in for lower leg play which took months to replace.

 

@msrothwe adding volume spacers will help a lot with hand pain, and also with small bump compliance. If your hands felt better when running more sag then I'd definitely add some volume spacers. I believe the Sid takes 3 spacers total. Back before I had my fork warrantied I was running two spacers and it did help quite a bit. I think now I'm running one.

But it's also possible your fork has the same issue as mine. Try standing up on the pedals and slowly rocking forward. When you do this you end up putting a bunch of weight on the handlebars, which should push the fork into its travel. In my case this was not happening. I could put a LOT of my weight on the handlebars and the fork wouldn't really move. Something must have been too tight, or was binding, or whatever. If you have the same issue it might be worth trying to get it warrantied, if possible. But maybe try adding some spacers first and see how that goes. If that fixes it for you then awesome.

 

thx man♥👍

 

Hi all,

I'm having the same problem as several guys from here with a clicking noise coming from the alloy split crown on my new Specialized Chisel 2023.
The bike was build with a Fox 34 2023 SC 100mm.

I want to change this crown with something better from Cane Creek 110-Series ... but I don't have any idea which one will work.

Could someone please give some advice ?

Many thanks,

 

I think the cane creek crown doesn't fit the stock lower headset bearing. The angle is different

 

The damper can be changed, but the old fork will have to make do with the older more progressive air spring..

 

Built up this beautiful 2021 Chameleon Snake Eye Forest Green frame up with some new and old parts. Absolutely love it!
Roval Control wheels
Ground Control/ Fast Track 2.3 tires
SRAM GX AXS groupset
RockShox SID Ultimate SL BRAIN
SWAT Conceal Carry MTB Tool
Enve M6 bars
SRAM Level TDM brakes
S-Works 60mm stem
S-Works Romin EVO saddle
XTR pedals

Weighed in at 23 lbs with pedals and Garmin.

 

Built up this beautiful 2021 Chameleon Snake Eye Forest Green frame up with some new and old parts. Absolutely love it!
Roval Control wheels
Ground Control/ Fast Track 2.3 tires
SRAM GX AXS groupset
RockShox SID Ultimate SL BRAIN
SWAT Conceal Carry MTB Tool
Enve M6 bars
SRAM Level TDM brakes
S-Works 60mm stem
S-Works Romin EVO saddle
XTR pedals

Weighed in at 23 lbs with pedals and Garmin.

Dude it looks great! That frameset is definitely one of the best looking ones I've owned.

 

Finally gotten round to posting photos of my final build which was completed in the May time-frame. This bike compliments my 29er YT Jeffsey and it is super fun on flowy and techy single track. Absolutely love it and the ride quality is insane - I have owned several carbon hardtails and this beats them all.

Highlights:
Specialized Chisel Limited Edition Fire (w/protective wrap)
Fox 32 StepCast Factory fork 100mm
Hunt XC Wide 29er wheels
Vittoria Barzo (front) and Mezcal (rear) - trail version with Vittoria Air Liner tire inserts
SRAM 11 Speed XX1 Shifters, derailleur, 11-44 cassette and X1 carbon cranks
Shimano SLX brakes
35mm Burgtec Enduro Mk3 stem with RaceFace carbon bar (35)
Shimano XT Pedals
Specialized Roval control carbon seatpost with Specialized Power Expert Saddle
Fidlock water bottle mount

Weight 23lbs.

 

Finally gotten round to posting photos of my final build which was completed in the May time-frame. This bike compliments my 29er YT Jeffsey and it is super fun on flowy and techy single track. Absolutely love it and the ride quality is insane - I have owned several carbon hardtails and this beats them all.

Highlights:
Specialized Chisel Limited Edition Fire (w/protective wrap)
Fox 32 StepCast Factory fork 100mm
Hunt XC Wide 29er wheels
Vittoria Barzo (front) and Mezcal (rear) - trail version with Vittoria Air Liner tire inserts
SRAM 11 Speed XX1 Shifters, derailleur, 11-44 cassette and X1 carbon cranks
Shimano SLX brakes
35mm Burgtec Enduro Mk3 stem with RaceFace carbon bar (35)
Shimano XT Pedals
Specialized Roval control carbon seatpost with Specialized Power Expert Saddle
Fidlock water bottle mount

Weight 23lbs. View attachment 2051832 View attachment 2051832 View attachment 2051833 View attachment 2051836 View attachment 2051837

Nice bike, enjoy it !
One question --- did you noticed any noise coming from the alloy split crown ? Or did you swapped it with a non-split one ?

 

Crown race questions: Getting a chisel in the next couple days and will be swapping out the judy for a sid fork. Will i be able to reuse the crown race off the judy or do i need a new one? If not what crown race do i need to get? Having a hard time finding info on the headset it uses. Thanks!

 

Yep! Pull the crown race off the Judy and swap it to the SID & you’ll be good to go.

 

New here , but good looking bikes you all got. Will post a picture of my newly built 2023 chisel Ive built up from at frameset.

 

Chisel frameset 2023 in XL
2023 sid sl ultimate 100mm with remote lockout.
Specialized alloy 29mm wheels from a 2023 fuse.
Deore 10sp drivetrain.
Xt/mt201 brakes.
Specialized bar and 70mm sworks stem.
Swat steerertube chainbreaker.
Swattool and Zee cage.
Sworks fasttrak and Renegade tires. With a pepi noodles insert in the rear.
Comes in at 12.1kg! Happy with that. Will shave off some weight pretty soon with new wheels/crankset.

 

Looks like Chisel frames have gone on sale on the Specialized website. Are we due for a new model soon? Are we on the third year of the current Chisel frame?

 

2021 was the first year of the redesigned (current) frameset. So, yeah, we may see a new frame real soon.

On the other hand, Specialized may just want to move inventory. It's possible that there's more supply than demand.

But I hope that you're right.

 

I have found this lower headset crown race - CANE CREEK crown race 110er series EC/ZS/IS52 | 1 1/2" Aluminium - https://r2-bike.com/CANE-CREEK-crown-race-110er-series-EC-ZS-IS52-1-1-2-Aluminium

Any idea if this will work on Chisel ?

 

Just rebuild mine with singlespeed . Going to race a 60km and 1100-1200meter elevation race in 2/september . Going with 34/20t or maybe 32/20t. Going to be my first xc race with singlespeed 😄🤘🏻🤘🏻 now it weights 11kg!

New brakediscs and testride!

 

Bought the frame earlier in the year & never got around to building it, finally got it together & have been ripping on it this week.

Mostly a spare parts build:

• Chisel frame - Medium (purchased second hand, previous owner never used it); Ride-Wrapped it (Gloss)
• Sid Select+ 120mm (purchased second hand)
• GX 12spd drivetrain, 10-50t, 175mm cranks (new take-off)
• RaceFace Turbine stem/bars (new take-off)
• PNW grips (parts bin)
• Deore 4-pots (parts bin)
• Specialized Phenom saddle (freebie from a friend)
• DT Swiss M1900 w/ 370 hubs (new take-offs). Added the 54T ratchet; sound clip: DT Swiss 370 with 54t ratchet
• Vittoria Barzo/Mezcal XC-Race 29x2.35's (parts bin)
• Wolftooth dropper lever (parts bin)
• RaceFace Aeffect R dropper (Had to be a new one because the used dropper I had was sticking).

Weighed in at 27.5 lbs as you see it. Not the lightest, but not bad considering I used what parts I had. This thing really eats up singletrack & is a ton of fun. I was thinking about picking up a gravel bike, but may just use this & throw a larger chainring on.

 

Bought the frame earlier in the year & never got around to building it, finally got it together & have been ripping on it this week.

Mostly a spare parts build:

• Chisel frame - Medium (purchased second hand, previous owner never used it); Ride-Wrapped it (Gloss)
• Sid Select+ 120mm (purchased second hand)
• GX 12spd drivetrain, 10-50t, 175mm cranks (new take-off)
• RaceFace Turbine stem/bars (new take-off)
• PNW grips (parts bin)
• Deore 4-pots (parts bin)
• Specialized Phenom saddle (freebie from a friend)
• DT Swiss M1900 w/ 370 hubs (new take-offs). Added the 54T ratchet; sound clip: DT Swiss 370 with 54t ratchet
• Vittoria Barzo/Mezcal XC-Race 29x2.35's (parts bin)
• Wolftooth dropper lever (parts bin)
• RaceFace Aeffect R dropper (Had to be a new one because the used dropper I had was sticking).

Weighed in at 27.5 lbs as you see it. Not the lightest, but not bad considering I used what parts I had. This thing really eats up singletrack & is a ton of fun. I was thinking about picking up a gravel bike, but may just use this & throw a larger chainring on.

Those are 30mm ID rims, right? I am curious how they feel with 2.35s (which incidentally the stock tires are). Also, did the wheels come with the 36T ratchet or the 18T ratchet?