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SG501 internals in a SG-500 body?

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#1 ·
So, I finally blew up my SG-500 after almost a year of use. 3-8 work fine, but 1 and 2 have a ton of drag and it makes a ratchet free-hub sound now when freewheeling.

I pulled it all apart and can't see signs of anything broken, no metal shavings, no cracked parts....it's clean as a whistle, but obviously something isn't right.

I'd like to just stab a new mechanism in the existing shell, but can't seem to fine any SG-500's. Will an SG-501 fit in the same shell? I've been looking at service parts, and it seems the 501's have hub cones on the right side vs. 500's being on the left? Or is that just some oddball part that's different than standard production?

I really like the Nexus grip-shift, so I want to avoid the 7000 if possible. What about the SG-505? Can that be used with a manual shifter, or is it electronic only?
 
#3 ·
The internal assembly part number (Y-37N 98010) is the same between the 500/501 hub. The 505 internals are not compatible, they only work with the Di2 model hubshell.

If you haven't dissembled the planetary from the axle already, you should do so. It is likely that a selector or drive pawl has broken. They are not individually replaceable, but the planetary unit is, as long as you can find it.
 
#4 ·
Is this the assy you mean? Part number is Y-37N 98020 though.

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I think what is broken on mine is the pawl mechanism on the drive side end. At least that's what's making the clicking freehub sound.

I ended up ordering a complete 501 so I could just swap the internals as one piece. I read something somewhere that the shells of the 500-B and 501 are the same.

If that axle unit is interchangeable, I may get that too and see if I can save the old drive unit, keep it as a backup. I pulled it completely apart, planetary off and all that, didn't see any damage to any teeth or anything, so it probably is just in the central axle/selector unit.
 
#5 ·
I meant the whole cartridge (axle+planetary), but if you narrowed down the issue to the axle selector, then either would work.

The tiniest bits of metal can cause a pawl to not release properly. I would dunk the whole thing in a parts washer and agitate it. Broken pawl springs are also very difficult to spot, at times. The good thing about a broken part is that you can't make non-functional worse.

If you haven't been to the hubstripping wordpress yet, you should.
 
#6 ·
Okay, so I got a new 501 hub, swapped the internals, smooth as butter.

I was feeling the grease on the failed 500 was looking a little sparse, or dry, or crusty, so I gave the new 501 an ATF bath before installing. Hopefully that will keep things a little smoother this time around.
 
#7 ·
I'm sure you've figured this by now, but those hubs need to be stripped down at least to the planetaries to grease them properly (all the meshing gears get greased).

You will have to do it eventually if you own one for any period of time, might as well practice on the dead one.
 
#8 ·
yeah, I'm planning to get on a regular maintenance schedule, but to some extent I was just waiting to see how long I could go without touching it. Hadn't even opened it up to look at it since new.

I ordered a new axle/pawl assy for the old 500, so if I'm able to fix it, I'll have a spare on hand.