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...With a converted double setup (2 rings on a triple crank), you are running the same chainring spacing as a triple and must use a triple front derailleur as it will provide the proper range of motion across the chainrings.
The chainline on my SLX 2x cranks is the same as the chainline on three different sets of converted 3x to 2x cranks I've done. Also there's plenty of range on the 2x 9-speed front derailleur. I've used the SLX 2x front derailleur on both set-ups with excellent results.
 
The chainline on my SLX 2x cranks is the same as the chainline on three different sets of converted 3x to 2x cranks I've done. Also there's plenty of range on the 2x 9-speed front derailleur. I've used the SLX 2x front derailleur on both set-ups with excellent results.
Yep, that because traditionally the SLX 2x cranks were triples that came from the factory with 22/36/bash gearing. The new 2x10 SLX cranks are moving over to the modern mountain double chainring spacing.

People who knew their gearing needs have been going 2x7, 2x8, and 2x9 over the years but now with the creation of larger range cassettes it is more feasable for most riders.

Same thing happened in the road community years ago with the advent of 10speed drivetrains and compact double cranks replacing triples. 10speed cassettes allow for an additional low range gear OR tighter gear spacing at the same range and compact double cranks allow for tighter and more reliable chainring shifting.
 
Would REALLY appreciate any advice you can give me...I recently added a bashguard to my stock SHIMANO XT (24-32-42) crankset with a SHIMANO 10SPD cassette, and now it shifts like crap (3 bike shops have worked on it, none of them could really make it better....It really struggles to shift at the extreme ends of the gearing - second largest cassette cog to middle ring and granny to second from the smallest cassette cog). If I understand you all correctly , them would this derailleur you mention (SLX level 2x9 front derailleur) coupled with a new 36T chainring help??? If so, how does the 2x9 der. mech work with a 10 speed cassette? Thanks very much,
 
Would REALLY appreciate any advice you can give me...I recently added a bashguard to my stock SHIMANO XT (24-32-42) crankset with a SHIMANO 10SPD cassette, and now it shifts like crap (3 bike shops have worked on it, none of them could really make it better....It really struggles to shift at the extreme ends of the gearing - second largest cassette cog to middle ring and granny to second from the smallest cassette cog). If I understand you all correctly , them would this derailleur you mention (SLX level 2x9 front derailleur) coupled with a new 36T chainring help??? If so, how does the 2x9 der. mech work with a 10 speed cassette? Thanks very much,
What you're describing is extreme cross chaining. Did you shorten the chain a few links along with ditching the big ring? And did you lower the front derailleur closer to the 'new' big ring (32T)?

The small-small combination will allow the derailleur to fold up on itself since there is not adequate tension to keep the cage extended. Conversely, the big-big combination forces the cage to overextend, making it hard to get the chain loose enough to jump to a bigger cog.

Front derailleur height shouldnt make anything shift worse than before but front shifting can be improved by lowering the derailleur closer to the 32T ring. And no, a new front derailleur wont help your technique issue of cross chaining.
 
Thanks. Yes, big big or small small is extreme cross chaining for sure, but I would think you should be able to run second cog from the biggest with the middle ring and second cog from the smallest with the granny? I don't spend much if any time in these gears, but it frustrates me that these combos shifted GREAT before I went to the bashguard. I have shortened the chain, lowered the front derailleur, adjusted the front derailleur, etc. etc. (and so have the 3 shops I have taken it to), and it won't perform like it did before adding the bash...just makes no sense!
 
How many links did you remove when you shortened the chain? You should be able to shift along the full cassette in the big ring, but shouldnt do so in use.

If you're having issues, you probably removed too many links and are risking a broken derailleur or hanger when cross-chaining.

Look at the pics of the derailleur with too short of a chain:
Park Tool Co. » ParkTool Blog » Chain Length Sizing

I only ride hardtails and use the big-big combo plus 1 link for most bikes since I never cross-chain. Most people conservatively size chains according to the big-big combo plus 2 links (3 in the case of some full-suspensions with chain growth).
 
I have a 3x10 with 22/33/44 up front. Considering replacing the 44 ring with a bashguard. I see Race Face bashguards available for 32, 36, & 40 tooth. Is that the size of the ring being replaced or the one remaining? They all appear to be 104 mm - how can that be? Also, what are BCD & offset?
 
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Would REALLY appreciate any advice you can give me...I recently added a bashguard to my stock SHIMANO XT (24-32-42) crankset with a SHIMANO 10SPD cassette, and now it shifts like crap (3 bike shops have worked on it, none of them could really make it better....It really struggles to shift at the extreme ends of the gearing - second largest cassette cog to middle ring and granny to second from the smallest cassette cog). If I understand you all correctly , them would this derailleur you mention (SLX level 2x9 front derailleur) coupled with a new 36T chainring help??? If so, how does the 2x9 der. mech work with a 10 speed cassette? Thanks very much,
You made some mistake on installation. The 32T chainring is still the "middle" ring w/ respect to chain line. There is no such thing as "cross-chaining" the middle ring, as another poster said. You should not have moved the FD at all. The FD doesn't 'know' that you have replaced the big ring w/ a bash. You want it to shift and to maintain the cage clearances that it had before. One thing you can do is screw the H limit screw really far in to keep from shifting out toward the bash, but that is not strictly necessary. Reducing the length of your chain to the minimum (wrap directly around the bigger ring in the front to the biggest cog in the back and add 2 links) is a good idea. Swapping down from a long cage RD to a medium cage (after you've decided 2x10 is for you) is a good idea. After this chain shortening, you may want to do a basic rear derailer tune (setting the L and H limits, making sure your cable pull is correct, adjusting the B-screw). Not to imply that simply taking your chain tool out of the box somehow moved these adjusters, but it sounds like someone did.

But the bash guard itself is no way I can think of responsible for your rear shifting issues. If you had done nothing but remove the crankset, replace the big ring w/ a bash, bolt everything back together, the shifting would not have changed at all. And you absolutely should be able to shift through all 10 cogs from the middle ring w/ no problems once the rear is tuned properly.

Speaking from experience w/ the e-thirteen DRS (a bash-middle-granny chain guide) set up on several different bikes. Not to mention both my current bikes are 1x9 running various guides each w/ generic triple crank parts.
 
You made some mistake on installation. The 32T chainring is still the "middle" ring w/ respect to chain line. There is no such thing as "cross-chaining" the middle ring, as another poster said. You should not have moved the FD at all. The FD doesn't 'know' that you have replaced the big ring w/ a bash. You want it to shift and to maintain the cage clearances that it had before. One thing you can do is screw the H limit screw really far in to keep from shifting out toward the bash, but that is not strictly necessary. Reducing the length of your chain to the minimum (wrap directly around the bigger ring in the front to the biggest cog in the back and add 2 links) is a good idea. Swapping down from a long cage RD to a medium cage (after you've decided 2x10 is for you) is a good idea. After this chain shortening, you may want to do a basic rear derailer tune (setting the L and H limits, making sure your cable pull is correct, adjusting the B-screw). Not to imply that simply taking your chain tool out of the box somehow moved these adjusters, but it sounds like someone did.

But the bash guard itself is no way I can think of responsible for your rear shifting issues. If you had done nothing but remove the crankset, replace the big ring w/ a bash, bolt everything back together, the shifting would not have changed at all. And you absolutely should be able to shift through all 10 cogs from the middle ring w/ no problems once the rear is tuned properly.

Speaking from experience w/ the e-thirteen DRS (a bash-middle-granny chain guide) set up on several different bikes. Not to mention both my current bikes are 1x9 running various guides each w/ generic triple crank parts.
Thanks, that is exactly what Shimano said as well!
 
hey guy , i need some help about bashguard , i have FSA Dyna Drive 44/32/22T.
what kind size bashgurad that fit this crankset?
I have the same crank and installed one of these:
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I replaced the 44t ring with the 104 BCD 34t 60gr bashguard. My existing chainring bolts were a perfect fit. You could keep the 44t ring and add a 44t bashguard, but then you would need longer bolts and it would weigh more.

I haven't tried it yet, but a friend has been riding the same setup and likes it.
 
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Bash guards are mostly for all mountain and downhill bikes. They are usually paired with a chain guide, which keeps the chain on through rough terrain(roots, rocks, etc.). Guards are great for protecting the chainrings from impacts from logs or rocks. You usually don't need your outer chainring when your riding mostly downhill or flow trails.
 
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