Just in general, the Float X is going to be a little more lively and poppy, the X2 more syrupy and planted.

 

that sounds like an endorsement for the X?

someone in the SC forum also share this which is helpful. Anyone else have experience with both?

 

There's not a lot of feedback on the new FLOAT X and it's coil version yet.

But it's gotta be better than the new X2.

 

Why do you say that?

 

They went back to basics with the 2021 version. Has shims now. Not saying that means it's better though. Haven't had the chance to ride mine yet, but sorta already planning on it's replacement when it inevitably goes in for warranty repair.

 

The 21 X2 has a poppet HSC and it's very stiff. No options to go softer.

 

I am trying to decide if I want the 2022 Float x for the Pivot trail 429 or some other shock.
I am 6'1" 173 pounds. Ride most everything but no downhill racing or bike parks. I used to be a good XC racer in my region.

 

If you can push the boat out and it fits you could try the EXT Storia, OK its not an air shock but by heck its one amazing shock ! Or wait until next year when EXT release an air sprung version !

 

I'm building up a new V4 Bronson and debating. I just ordered the Float X, but now questioning the decision a little bit.

I'm 200 lbs and most of my riding is long climbs up followed by long aggressive descents. Not always fire roads, I like tech climbs as well. I found I was constantly blowing through the travel on my Super Deluxe that came with my V3 Bronson, hence the change.

Anyone ridden both on the same bike and have any thoughts?

Float x sounds like the shock for you. I just installed a tuned float x from fluid focus and it is much better than the dpx2. X2 feels more planted and less lively.

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Hey what bike carrier is that? Thanks

 

Surprised to see so much hate for the 2021 X2 ... I have it on my Mach 6 which I mostly use for downhill and bike parks. Not huge pro line jumps but big enough. Maybe it's cause my weight, I'm only 155 lbs but I absolutely love it. Can't say I have a ton to compare it to, but I'm not looking for a poppy feeling as much as a smooth and consistent shock. Haven't needed it repaired or anything, and it did take about 2 months before I got it dialed in. Shame so many people have one and don't take the time to understand it's settings, but I couldn't possibly be happier with it.

 

my experience with the x2 running close to max hsr and max hsc @160 lb on a transition spire: blew oil out the compression adjuster / lsr adjuster in a short period of riding over 10k in elevation: lots of big hits and big terrain. fox's explanation was basically has it lost damping? ok, no then run it or we can do a "full service." this has happened twice on said x2

 

Wow, oil started leaking through the blue compression controls?! How did you notice it? How much would you say came out?

 

over 5cc's of damper fluid at least, i notice those things... no lose in damping but absolutely not what a new float x2 should do. base valve seals maybe the case or it could be something else. i generally ride places over 10k, long burner descents. could be the overall friction in the system. im sure someone could chime in

 

Dam that is interesting, I just got a new Spire with an X2 myself. I read on another post that some Spire owners had to send their X2s back to shock because of. problem with the way the VVC was handling the bike specific tune. The owners reported hearing a rattling of some kind. Wonder if that is related to this.

 

nothing audible on my end. i do think - and this is no knock on transition because i love them - tunes are getting pushed out a hair too quick in these covid times. my impression of the the spire tune is that it is indeed on the lighter side. i think the spire comes in at an average of 23% progressivity? dougal has mentioned that new x2's behave a lil strange with internal oil pressure. again, someone could chime in on this shock and tune. the bike is fantastic, when i moved to a supe deluxe coil M/M, **** changed a bunch. i was on rails from that point on out.

 

nothing audible on my end. i do think - and this is no knock on transition because i love them - tunes are getting pushed out a hair too quick in these covid times. my impression of the the spire tune is that it is indeed on the lighter side. i think the spire comes in at an average of 23% progressivity? dougal has mentioned that new x2's behave a lil strange with internal oil pressure. again, someone could chime in on this shock and tune. the bike is fantastic, when i moved to a supe deluxe coil M/M, **** changed a bunch. i was on rails from that point on out.

Pretty funny/tragic/whatever that every time I've had an X2 speced on a new bike, it's had an issue. Canfield Balance, Ibis Ripmo, now the Spire. Everytime its like it's not designed for the bike. Maybe I should stop messing around and buy an 11-6?

 

Hmmm well the new x2 sounds like a bit of a pig. Anyone had any experience with the kitsuma air?


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Good luck finding anyone on here with experience on the kitsuma. Everyone loves to have on CC because of past reliability issues with the dbair inline.
I almost went with the kitsuma as I’m in NC where they are made, however, I’m also not far from the east coast fox service center. After talking with some local shops, who do not sell fox or CC, I went with the X2. It’s been great so far. You hear more issues with the X2 because it’s popular and tons of people run it.

I also take half of what Dougal says with a grain of salt. Love the dude, and he gives great info. But he seems to hate everything that isn’t manitou. Which, is his experience, and I dont blame him for it. But, I’ve had plenty of other suspension that has felt great that he hates.

 

Does anyone know if it is easy to change the stroke on the Float X or is it a full rebuild? As a possible option I could look at a new take off 55mm stroke shock but need 50mm. Having had a glance a the shock drawing I’m guessing it’s not so simple.


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Does anyone know if it is easy to change the stroke on the Float X or is it a full rebuild? As a possible option I could look at a new take off 55mm stroke shock but need 50mm. Having had a glance a the shock drawing I’m guessing it’s not so simple.


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Its very easy, it uses 2.5mm spacers that mount onto the bearing housing.

 

What a load of sh!te from the usual bloviators. The new X2 is fast as hell despite making colors on plots angering the Aspergers here.

 

The new X2 is fast as hell despite making colors on plots angering the Aspergers here.

I think that is the problem, they keep blowing up, losing their dampening and becoming fast as hell when some dampening is needed.