[Blkdoutindustries]

Yes, I did get that sensation in high speed repeated hits. The Enduro felt like it locked up a little and was generally harsh in that specific situation. I rode it with four different rear shock setups including both versions of the X2, a custom tuned TTX coil and a stock RockShox whatever.

I would really like to hear a more indepth comparison once you get more miles on it to the Enduro since that's my current bike and I've been looking at the MT for a while.

 

[Salespunk]

I'm on a V1 now and can see why people would say this, the early Rockshox suspension didn't help matters. I've got a Fox FLOAT X2 which is much better, but I get where the "harsh" comment is coming from.

You mentioned the new bike is heavy, my V1 (with a 38, XX1 AXS, ENVE Wheels) is 33 lbs with flat pedals which I use as my "one" bike. What's the new one coming in at?

I just weighed it, 33.7 lbs as it sits with XTR trail pedals, bottle cage and mount for my 1up tool in the steer tube, but no tool inserted. Really not heavy, I have just been working on my gravel and XC bikes too much.

 

[Salespunk]

Would this bike let you get away with a 200? I'm the same height as you, though I don't know your morphology, of course. But when I had a Hightower v2, with a 430mm seat tube and shock tunnel layout, not unlike this bike, the most I could get away with was the 185mm BikeYoke.

How much drop does the PNW have?

I have a 200 mm PNW on it now with about 5-10 mm of additional insertion available

 

[Salespunk]

I can't remember where, but one of the online reviews they day the embargo lifted stated that the Fox X2 the v2 comes with is specifically tuned just for the v2. It's not an off the shelf X2 that has no specific tune like you'd get direct from Fox aftermarket or whatever.

We'll see I suppose. I hope it works well, I'll probably run that for a while until I get my Vorsprung SDU coil converted to the new stroke and re-tuned.

Salespunk, does the X2 yours come with have the Fox ID code you could look up if you get time at some point? Maybe that would indicate it.

I believe that Fox got rid of the ID codes, it is all based on the shock serial number now. I will look and if I can see it get you the details on the tune.

 

[rscecil007]

Oh, I had no idea the codes were gone. No big deal man, don't go out of your way. Just thought it might be interesting to see what the code showed.

Thanks for the feedback so far, appreciate it. Looking foward to getting mine.

 

[Rick Draper]

I believe that Fox got rid of the ID codes, it is all based on the shock serial number now. I will look and if I can see it get you the details on the tune.

If you scan the QR code on the end of the shock near the HSR adjuster it will bring up all the info.

 

[cogswell23]

If you scan the QR code on the end of the shock near the HSR adjuster it will bring up all the info.

This is really good intel. Thank you.

 

[ARider]

If you scan the QR code on the end of the shock near the HSR adjuster it will bring up all the info.

You can also enter the serial number that is next to the QR code.

Bike Tech Help Center | FOX

www.ridefox.com

 

[Salespunk]

Did about 2500' of climbing/descending yesterday at La Costa and DP for those that know the area in SD. The trails that I was riding tend to be pretty rough and choppy. I wasn't feeling great yesterday, but pushed through some nagging sinus issues. Definitely wasn't on my game.

In general I am more impressed with this bike the more I ride it. On most other bikes I am hyper sensitive to setup. I run the Sram digital tire pressure monitors, check shock pressures before every ride, etc. On this bike I am happy to hop on and go and don't notice any of the little things that usually bother me. As an example I normally run 19/24 psi F and R for tire pressures and am almost obsessive about setting them. When they are too high, it drives me nuts and I get weird sensations where the bike feels like it doesn't want to initiate turns or there is a lot of harshness coming through the bars.

I rode the first climb and descent without remembering to set my pressures. When I check they were at 24/28 psi which on other bikes would throw me off. Here I didn't feel any harshness coming through the rear end and the bike still felt incredibly supple.

One thing I do notice during descending is the higher Stack. I am used to having a lot of pressure on my hands with a lower bar position, but on the Mega I feel like I am in a better and more central position on the bike. The only downside, if you can call it that, is I have to be a little more focused on my body position. My natural position is a little farther back which isn't keeping enough weight on the front wheel and it feels a little loose in some corner.

As for climbing, the bike feels good. I am still working on the balance during technical section, but after yesterday no complaints. Did a lot of pavement climbs and the bike was very well behaved. I came off in a few technical climbs, but that is just more of learning the nuances of the bike.

C64453AB-8B3A-4964-8B4A-E28A390AECF4_1_105_c by Sales Punk, on Flickr

 

[PJJ205]

Finally got my bike reserved and should have it next month. Now that I don't have to be selfish and protect my build anymore, if anyone is looking for frames or completes in the Inland Empire, I can let you know what is in stock or around when it might show up then give you a contact number to hit a coworker up for it. Completes would have to be purchased in-store, but frames can probably be shipped; I can find out tomorrow. Just casually walking by our docks, I saw:

1- FRAME- Small CC Translucent Blue Factory DHX2
1- FRAME- Medium CC Matte Nickel Factory X2
1- FRAME- Medium CC Translucent Blue Factory X2
1- FRAME- XL- CC Translucent Blue Factory X2
1- COMPLETE- XL Matte Nickel C S-build

I have nothing to do with sales, I get absolutely zero out of this and it actually is a bit of an effort on my part, but I do like helping people get their hands on stuff they're looking for before it's a free-for-all.

EDIT: Frames cannot be shipped. Just like completes, pick up in-store only. Sorry folks.

 

[rscecil007]

Salespunk,

I know you've ridden plenty of frames over there years since I first had some convos with you about the Nomad v3 years ago. And I know you race and know your way around a bike.

So what do you think it is about this new Mega that makes it so comfortable instantly? Did they just nail the geo (no idea how it compares to your Enduro and Evo), or is the geo combined with the new kinematics? Something else?

Just curious to your thoughts. The video review I posted earlier mentioned how comfortable they were on the bike right away, and I think the nsmb.com review mentioned it. as well.

 

[Salespunk]

Salespunk,

I know you've ridden plenty of frames over there years since I first had some convos with you about the Nomad v3 years ago. And I know you race and know your way around a bike.

So what do you think it is about this new Mega that makes it so comfortable instantly? Did they just nail the geo (no idea how it compares to your Enduro and Evo), or is the geo combined with the new kinematics? Something else?

Just curious to your thoughts. The video review I posted earlier mentioned how comfortable they were on the bike right away, and I think the nsmb.com review mentioned it. as well.

I think there are a few things going on.

First, the geo is really good. Reach is not crazy and inline with most of the other bikes out there, but the Stack is 7-15 mm higher than most of the other bikes available.

Second is they NAILED the suspension curve. Our trails have a lot of square edges and will expose any harshness in a bike. The MT does a fantastic job of muting that harshness while not feeling dead. You can still move it around on the trail and it has some pop to it. To me it feels like a more plush version of the SB150 vs the Enduro which is a full on monster truck. With the Enduro it takes a lot of energy to switch lines, but it doesn't really matter because the bike will just smash through anything. The MT still has that same invincible feel (maybe even more of that feeling), but feels lighter to move around because it maintains some pop.

I will say that this is the feel that I have been searching for in a bike for a very long time. Hopefully that explains it, but I can go into more detail if you would like.

 

[rscecil007]

No, that's great feedback. Thanks for that!

 

[Streetdoctor]

The only thing weird about the bike to me on paper is the reach is so much shorter than the S4 Enduro. I feel like the Enduro is even a little short for a stable race bike. Surprised you're getting along with that. For a bike that is described as the ultimate privateer weapon that forgives blind mistakes a short reach doesn't seem to agree. I'm fairly intrigued by an XL though... On paper I believe it's still smaller than the XL Ransom I rode that was a tad too big.

 

[Crit Rat]

I think the geo is really balanced I just happen to be right at the cusp of L and XL. I sized up on my Evo and for the most part I've been happy with it but there are times where the stack feels odd and if I'm not fully aggressive it can be a bit barge like.
If I were to get a Meg2 I'd go L and I think that would bring back some agility a bigger bike can lack. I'm thinking of a L Spire which has a reach @ 485 that is in between L and XL. Mid 480's is what I've found to be ideal for me at just over 6ft and a healthy ape index.

I just picked up a new Bronson for my wife and I'm definitely impressed with the current SC frame construction. Only thing lacking I see so far is lack of cable guides in the rear triangle, sounds like Meg2 also is like that.

So many good bikes out now, too bad so many are so rare!

 

[cyklops007]

The only thing weird about the bike to me on paper is the reach is so much shorter than the S4 Enduro. I feel like the Enduro is even a little short for a stable race bike. Surprised you're getting along with that. For a bike that is described as the ultimate privateer weapon that forgives blind mistakes a short reach doesn't seem to agree. I'm fairly intrigued by an XL though... On paper I believe it's still smaller than the XL Ransom I rode that was a tad too big.

We need to look at effective reach becuse you have to take stack into account, when you have this much stack you using much less spacers keeping you closer to actual reach.

When i heard the reach was only 5mm more than the V1 I was a bit concerned but when they released the bike and I saw the geo charts and saw the 13mm higher stack (XL) vs the V1 Megatower i realized they made the bike bigger by mostly increasing stack which is much better in my option.

for example the Enduro in S5 (XL) reach is 511mm and stack is 638mm the Megatower V2 has a reach of 495mm with a stack of 656mm giving the Megatower 18mm more stack! that’s alot.

A 10mm spacer will decrease reach by about 5mm so 20mm of spacers is roughly 10mm of reach so comparing the S5 Enduro on the same stack with the Megatower i would say effective reach is about 501mm on the enduro (adding 20mm of spacers to equalize the two bikes in stack height) this is really rough calculations but you can get scientific if you want.

I’m 6”3-6”4 and i run alot of spacers to get my bars the right height so it may matter more for taller riders but the point is don’t be misguided with the reach numbers because stack and head angle need to be considered.

This is still a pretty big bike with much better geo, could i say near perfect geo ?

 

[jeremy3220]

Also, regardless of spacers a larger stack means a longer bike. All else equal, as stack increases the steering axis gets pushed further forward. The best way to think of it is if you were to increase the head tube length in isolation, the reach would decrease (the same as adding spacers). However, if you want to keep reach the same with the he longer head tube then the fork/steering axis has to be moved forward. This is why the true sizing of the bike is really dictated by the location of the steering axis relative to the BB.

 

[Streetdoctor]

We need to look at effective reach becuse you have to take stack into account, when you have this much stack you using much less spacers keeping you closer to actual reach.

When i heard the reach was only 5mm more than the V1 I was a bit concerned but when they released the bike and I saw the geo charts and saw the 13mm higher stack (XL) vs the V1 Megatower i realized they made the bike bigger by mostly increasing stack which is much better in my option.

for example the Enduro in S5 (XL) reach is 511mm and stack is 638mm the Megatower V2 has a reach of 495mm with a stack of 656mm giving the Megatower 18mm more stack! that’s alot.

A 10mm spacer will decrease reach by about 5mm so 20mm of spacers is roughly 10mm of reach so comparing the S5 Enduro on the same stack with the Megatower i would say effective reach is about 501mm on the enduro (adding 20mm of spacers to equalize the two bikes in stack height) this is really rough calculations but you can get scientific if you want.

I’m 6”3-6”4 and i run alot of spacers to get my bars the right height so it may matter more for taller riders but the point is don’t be misguided with the reach numbers because stack and head angle need to be considered.

This is still a pretty big bike with much better geo, could i say near perfect geo ?

Thanks for explaining that! Do I pull the trigger or wait for an Enduro update... 🤔

 

[Streetdoctor]

Anyone else around 200lb running one with the X2 yet? Salespunk runs the same pressure as Mike Levy does at 150lb lol

 

[PJJ205]

Santa Cruz just sent me the tune settings for V2 DHX2s, if anyone happens to need it, PM me.