[Flyer]

The Ibis wheels (S35) are great. I feel no additional drag compared to my slightly narrower Revel wheels with same tires. None.

 

[Jason_86_951]

I am working on my light Ripmo build and have 2 questions:

1. Is the Float X worth the extra $$ over the Float X2? The frame some with the X2 so I would have to sell it and buy a float X.
2. Should I go with S35 carbon wheels or 933 AL wheels? Is the S35 carbon going to feel slower due to the wide tire profile causing more tire drag?

1. Float X for the win, by a lot for a trail build.
2. No real drag difference. I have sets of both and only notice the difference in flex. The 933 are more more comfortable on a hardtail than the S35c. If you hard charge and like to push out of corners I would grab the S35 or even a S28 set.

 

[Jeremy05]

My plan was to replace the ripley with the Ripmo light, but now I’m starting to wonder if the Ripmo will be too much bike for the mellower trails I ride in the Midwest.

would I be better off with changing suspension on ripley vs changing to a Ripmo?

 

[Lyphin]

You can go either way.

Ripley with 140mm Grip 2 and Fox Float X Rips!
Ripmo with 160mm Grip 2 and Fox Float X rip(s)mo(re)!

First option for a slightly better uphill performance and vice versa.

I went with option 2 and keep a lightweight Wheelsets, so you have 2 bikes in 1. Ripmo build with light wheelset is about 12.5kg. Some stock XC-bikes comes with that weight. 😉

 

[Robby1]

I want to try and do a circuit with the Ripley and then my Ripmo but swap over carbon wheels with the Rekons from the Ripley to see what time difference there is.
I have the float x now and i am intrigued to see how similar they are, as i have always kept the two bike builds apart.
To be fair the Ripley has felt pretty good and fun for most trails, apart from drops and chunk where i run out of suspension.

 

[Robby1]

You can go either way.

Ripley with 140mm Grip 2 and Fox Float X Rips!
Ripmo with 160mm Grip 2 and Fox Float X rip(s)mo(re)!

First option for a slightly better uphill performance and vice versa.

I went with option 2 and keep a lightweight Wheelsets, so you have 2 bikes in 1. Ripmo build with light wheelset is about 12.5kg. Some stock XC-bikes comes with that weight. 😉

How did you get 12.5kg which is like 27.5 lbs? My Ripley is 27 and i struggle to get under that. Mine is XL though.
Might need a picture of it so i can get some ideas..

 

[Muggsly]

Coil users how are you enjoying it on your Ripmo?

I am seriously debating dropping the X2 for either a Ohlins TTX Air 2 (big can), had one on my Evil and it was hands down the best air shock I have ever ridden, OR going with a coil either Cane Creek Kitsuma or Ohlins TTX22 since they are both certified for Yoke style linkages but I am having a hard time deciding.

I know a lot of you were going for Ripmo as a long legged Trail bike but I am think more mini enduro bike, funny to say that since it was literally an enduro bike a few years back. Just curious to how the bike gets along with it.

 

[Blam]

Coil users how are you enjoying it on your Ripmo?

I am seriously debating dropping the X2 for either a Ohlins TTX Air 2 (big can), had one on my Evil and it was hands down the best air shock I have ever ridden, OR going with a coil either Cane Creek Kitsuma or Ohlins TTX22 since they are both certified for Yoke style linkages but I am having a hard time deciding.

I know a lot of you were going for Ripmo as a long legged Trail bike but I am think more mini enduro bike, funny to say that since it was literally an enduro bike a few years back. Just curious to how the bike gets along with it.

I prefer the DVO Jade X coil over the X2. both the original 22_23 that came with the bike and the untuned 24.

had a big day on the 2024 X2 this past weekend, set up the same as my old one, and for the most part, it felt the same, except there was more progression. I should have left it with 1 spacer instead of 2. it had tons of mid/end stroke support which felt good on G outs. still could be more supple but it survived the weekend and I wasn't all that upset with it.

The DVO is more supple. it wallows a bit on heavy pedalling which is expected, but I do ride it locally on XC oriented single track and rarely lock it out unless I'm doing fire roads. the grip is gives me on tech climbs is great.

having said all that, I ordered an Ext Storia this morning, but it's also snowing today....so I may not get to use it until next season, or if I take a trip westbound to north shore or PNW this winter. just wanted more adjustability and bottom out resistance.

 

[flgfish]

I dig the coil. Small bumps disappear and traction is incredible.
Some people feel the Ripmo suspension isn’t progressive enough, and they easily bottom out a coil. I haven't had this issue, but I am not sending huge drops. Seems like a progressive spring would help this.
The weight is obviously a small drawback, but I only notice it taking the bike off the hitch rack. I don’t feel it on the trail.

 

[Lyphin]

How did you get 12.5kg which is like 27.5 lbs? My Ripley is 27 and i struggle to get under that. Mine is XL though.
Might need a picture of it so i can get some ideas..

Check some pages before. There is a picture of the old build with 12.9kg - it all depends on the rims and tire if everything else is maxed out. 😉

 

[Blam]

I dig the coil. Small bumps disappear and traction is incredible.
Some people feel the Ripmo suspension isn’t progressive enough, and they easily bottom out a coil. I haven't had this issue, but I am not sending huge drops. Seems like a progressive spring would help this.
The weight is obviously a small drawback, but I only notice it taking the bike off the hitch rack. I don’t feel it on the trail.

I definitely bottom mine out even on small drops to flat. Small meaning ones that you could roll. If I send it off those, I am always met with a bottom out. That was when I was a few lbs heavier though, tbh. About 10 lbs more. I might have been on the limit of the coil weight at that point.

I don't do anything bigger than 2 foot drops though, because I'm a big wuss.

 

[Robby1]

Check some pages before. There is a picture of the old build with 12.9kg - it all depends on the rims and tire if everything else is maxed out. 😉

Hmmm ok I just looked back at it. I still don’t get how you get down that low. Are you running super light wheels? My components are fairly light and not sure I can save a lot more weight without compromising bikes ability.

 

[diverge]

I am working on my light Ripmo build and have 2 questions:

1. Is the Float X worth the extra $$ over the Float X2? The frame some with the X2 so I would have to sell it and buy a float X.
2. Should I go with S35 carbon wheels or 933 AL wheels? Is the S35 carbon going to feel slower due to the wide tire profile causing more tire drag?

You can get the X on sale at fox right now. Can't help you but I considered swapping then decided I'm fine with my x2 and it suits my riding.

Actually riding them, I thought the s35s were fine but I get way too analytical and were no benefits running 35mm outer for my riding so I sold them and bought a Nobl set. I don't need a flatter tire profile and the hub engagement is not great. I liked my ~$400 Hunt trail wide set just as much or better. S35 are durable at a good weight though.

 

[Blam]

are you guys just running an off the shelf tune on the float X? or is there a recommended lighter? tune for this shock

 

[diverge]

I definitely bottom mine out even on small drops to flat. Small meaning ones that you could roll. If I send it off those, I am always met with a bottom out. That was when I was a few lbs heavier though, tbh. About 10 lbs more. I might have been on the limit of the coil weight at that point.

I don't do anything bigger than 2 foot drops though, because I'm a big wuss.

I ran a jade x with a 500 LS at 165lbs and bottomed out so hard until I cranked the preload almost to the max. I ride harder since I ran it so I'm not sure if I even want to run a heavier spring on the Ripmo. After my first park day, I might just buy a longer travel bike this winter that would pair better with a coil.

 

[flgfish]

I definitely bottom mine out even on small drops to flat. Small meaning ones that you could roll. If I send it off those, I am always met with a bottom out. That was when I was a few lbs heavier though, tbh. About 10 lbs more. I might have been on the limit of the coil weight at that point.

I don't do anything bigger than 2 foot drops though, because I'm a big wuss.

I am in between spring rates in the Ibis guide, and I run the stiffer spring. So I may be slightly oversprung but it still feels great. Happy with the setup.

I am 200 pounds and run the 550 spring.

 

[Blam]

You guys must ride a lot harder than me....I am pretty happy with the Jade-x on a 450 LS. And I was about 180 kitted in the summer time (this is when I had the most bottom outs)
I'm currently 165 lbs and closer to 175 kitted and don't think I've bottomed out the last few rides at all, but I wasn't hitting jumps or drops.

 

[flgfish]

I ran a jade x with a 500 LS at 165lbs and bottomed out so hard until I cranked the preload almost to the max. I ride harder since I ran it so I'm not sure if I even want to run a heavier spring on the Ripmo. After my first park day, I might just buy a longer travel bike this winter that would pair better with a coil.

Preload won’t change the force required to bottom out a coil. It can raise the sag point minimally by loading it down into its travel. You either needed a higher spring rate or a progressive spring. Or an air shock.

 

[diverge]

Preload won’t change the force required to bottom out a coil. It can raise the sag point minimally by loading it down into its travel. You either needed a higher spring rate or a progressive spring. Or an air shock.

I only used it for a few weeks but now I want to run it to see how much travel I actually go through. Not sure what I was experiencing because I clearly remember feeling clunks through the frame but maybe it was something else.

Not doubting you but wouldn't sitting higher in the travel mean you have a few more mms to full compression?

 

[flgfish]

Not doubting you but wouldn't sitting higher in the travel mean you have a few more mms to full compression?

Springs are linear devices. The shock stroke does not change with preload, however. Added preload changes the amount of force needed to get the spring compressing at the beginning of the stroke. Think through how that would change SAG And it becomes clear that you can preload out some of the weight of the bike to keep the sag point a little higher.

A 500 pound spring takes 500 pounds per inch to compress it. So it’s 1000 pounds for 2 inches. You are just preloading in some of that 500 pounds to get it moving in the 1st inch.

Good explanation here.