[insaint]

Hi, I just messed up my 9 speed chain on a 9 speed group, i was thinking of replacing it with a 10 speed chain, will it work?

 

[cHoc Nr1]

Wrong tread....

 

[NielsJ]

4. Nine speed front derailleurs can be used with 10 speed front shifters, but do not work optimally if used with a 10 speed crankset. Nine speed front derailleurs and cranksets can be used with 10 speed chains and front shifters. A nine speed shifter can be used to shift a 10 speed dyna sys front derailleur.

I'm not sure about the bold part. I recently replaced my old 3spd crank with a 2x10 X9 crank. I've kept the rest 9spd: Deore FD and shifters, XT RD and a KMC X9.93 chain. The shifts up front are way better than wth the old Deore tripple. I guess the chainrings are more important than the FD itself?

 

[evoracer]

Ok, I've read this entire thread and now kinda numb...

This is what I am working with:

Sram X9 10spd RD & shifter, 10spd cassette outback

XT 3x9spd crank & rings with X9 9spd FD

Can I use the Sram 10spd FD shifter or do I have use a 9spd?

 

[evoracer]

Any info???

 

[ryguy135]

Shimano and Sram front shifters and derailleurs are compatible. You can use a 9 speed FD on a 10 speed setup and vice versa, but performance will diminish slightly as the inner width of the derailleur cage is designed for the chain's width, which varies slightly for 9 and 10 speed.

 

[evoracer]

Thnx

 

[FaithRaven]

I'm going to purchase a Specialized Epic FSR 2010 Frame that comes with a 9 speed front derailleur and I'm looking to replace it with a 10 speed one. Is Shimano XT Front Mech E-Type 10sp (found on CRC) the right one ?

 

[frankoid]

Thanks for the useful information on this thread. I thought I'd add my experience.

I built up a 2002 Jekyll with a new 3x10 XT groupset this summer. The groupset came with a top swing front derailleur, which didn't fit my frame, so I ran it with the Deore 9 speed front mech that was already on the frame for a while. It worked, but shifting at the front wasn't great, especially when it got muddy.

I've just been for my first ride after fitting a 2012 XT front mech, and shifting is better although it's still a bit reluctant to shift down into the granny sometimes. It wasn't as muddy today as it was when the 9 speed front mech was performing at it's worst, so I can't say what difference the 10 speed one will make in bad conditions yet.

When I was swapping them I compared them, and the plates on the 9 speed one are definitely taller than on the 10 speed one. The recess in the inner plate (the one that's level with the middle chainring) is smaller too. It looks like the 10 speed one is designed for the close ratio chainrings that are part of the 10sp groupset - in fact according to the specs it isn't designed to work with any wider range than the 24/32/42 that the 10sp chainrings have.

 

[coursemyhorse]

Hi all. First post. I'll be clear. I want to run a 1 x 10 setup with 11-36 rear cassette and 32 single front chain ring. I will be buying all from scratch. I want to run a short cage rear derailleur and notice Shimano only do a medium or long cage. SRAM do a short one. So can I make this work wtih XTR shifters and a SRAM X9 rear short cage derailleur? If so what SPD bits do I need to buy in what make? Will it work?

Or do Shimano do a short cage rear derailleur in XT/XTR?

 

[knottshore]

Hi all. First post. I'll be clear. I want to run a 1 x 10 setup with 11-36 rear cassette and 32 single front chain ring. I will be buying all from scratch. I want to run a short cage rear derailleur and notice Shimano only do a medium or long cage. SRAM do a short one. So can I make this work wtih XTR shifters and a SRAM X9 rear short cage derailleur? If so what SPD bits do I need to buy in what make? Will it work?

Or do Shimano do a short cage rear derailleur in XT/XTR?

The Shimano shifter will not work with the Sram rear derailleur- Shimano makes only an SG (mid) and SGS (long) cage version of the 980 rear derailleur- Good news is the SG or mid cage works well for a 1X10 set up- been running one for about a year now-

Good luck

 

[evoracer]

Hi all. First post. I'll be clear. I want to run a 1 x 10 setup with 11-36 rear cassette and 32 single front chain ring. I will be buying all from scratch. I want to run a short cage rear derailleur and notice Shimano only do a medium or long cage. SRAM do a short one. So can I make this work wtih XTR shifters and a SRAM X9 rear short cage derailleur? If so what SPD bits do I need to buy in what make? Will it work?

Or do Shimano do a short cage rear derailleur in XT/XTR?

Interested to hear the answer on this one.

I ended up going 1x10, all X9, mid-cage. RD appears pretty stretched out 32t w/11-36.

 

[satanas]

So can I make this work wtih XTR shifters and a SRAM X9 rear short cage derailleur?

The Shimano 10 speed shifter should work provided you pair it with a 9 speed SRAM rear derailleur - but not 10 speed.

i wouldn't worry too much about cage length; the weight difference is negligible. It'd be easier just to use the medium cage Shimano mech & shifters (if you don't like SRAM shifters for some reason), or else just use SRAM for both. No reason to make things complicated for no reason... :nono:

 

[coursemyhorse]

The Shimano 10 speed shifter should work provided you pair it with a 9 speed SRAM rear derailleur - but not 10 speed.

i wouldn't worry too much about cage length; the weight difference is negligible. It'd be easier just to use the medium cage Shimano mech & shifters (if you don't like SRAM shifters for some reason), or else just use SRAM for both. No reason to make things complicated for no reason... :nono:

Hi there, reason I want to use XTR shifters is because I didn't think SRAM do anything in the same league for what I want? I basically want multi release and instant release and want the upshifting to be doable with index finger pull, rather than all thumbs which I thought SRAM were?

Also not so much weight difference, was more than I thought a shorter cage aided the ability to run a tighter length chain (shorter chain) which helpded minimize chain slap. Also looks neater and gives more ground clearance so looks a more simple system to run.

 

[coursemyhorse]

The Shimano shifter will not work with the Sram rear derailleur- Shimano makes only an SG (mid) and SGS (long) cage version of the 980 rear derailleur- Good news is the SG or mid cage works well for a 1X10 set up- been running one for about a year now-

Good luck

Thanks for this but as above and earlier in the thread, some people state mixing with 9spd SRAM works hence why I asked for confirmation. Yeah, my mate has been running med cage Shimano with his 1x10 and XTR shifter for a while and loves it.

 

[satanas]

Ibis have said here: Ripley 29 | Bikes | Ibis Cycles US

"If you want to run a 1X10, we've got great news. In June 2011, Shimano began shipping a new rear derailleur call the XTR Shadow Plus. It uses heavier chain tension plus a friction stabilizer to dampen the cage and thus chain movement (chain slap). It also dramatically reduces derailing of chains. Combined with either an e*thirteen XCX-ST D-Type or an MRP 1X, the Shadow Plus virtually eliminates the need for the lower half of your chain guide, plus makes your bike nearly silent."

If I was trying to achieve what you are I'd just run XTR (since you pefer Shimano shifters) and not muck about with SRAM (in)compatibilities at all. (I am waiting for 10 speed Gripshift myself, but that's another story.)

 

[Alpha-Q]

I currently have a 9 speed slx chain, cogs, shifters and RD.

Is there going to have a problem when I put a dynasis crank and fd with my current setup?

 

[coursemyhorse]

Ibis have said here:

"If you want to run a 1X10, we've got great news. In June 2011, Shimano began shipping a new rear derailleur call the XTR Shadow Plus. It uses heavier chain tension plus a friction stabilizer to dampen the cage and thus chain movement (chain slap). It also dramatically reduces derailing of chains. Combined with either an e*thirteen XCX-ST D-Type or an MRP 1X, the Shadow Plus virtually eliminates the need for the lower half of your chain guide, plus makes your bike nearly silent."

If I was trying to achieve what you are I'd just run XTR (since you pefer Shimano shifters) and not muck about with SRAM (in)compatibilities at all. (I am waiting for 10 speed Gripshift myself, but that's another story.)

Thanks for the info, another problem is that here in UK the m780 Shimano Rear Deraileur is hard to come by in GS (medium) and there are stock problems currently. Maybe to do with Xmas.

 

[satanas]

^ What can I say? Xma$ux!!!

 

[BBG29]

Looking for some Info!
I am wanting to run a set of 2012 Sram XO 2x10 Cranks with a Sram XO 9 Speed Redwin rear Derailleur.
I am currently running a Sram Pg 1050 / 12-36T Cassette, and a Sram X7 2x10 High Mount Front Derailleur. I am also changing the front shifter to a Sram X7 2x10 from a Sram X7 3x10 shifter.
Can I run these cranks with that derailleur? Can this work, and if so what else might I have to change or do to make this setup work?