let me start with some questions: what's the proper spring diameter for the Jade? 36mm inner is ok? and if someone's got a 200mm, what's the minimum and maximum spring lenght supported?
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I have the smallest DVO Jade. Diameter wise, it fits Fox coils. However, a 2.45 Fox spring was barely long enough for the pre-load adjuster. So I bought a 2.5-2.8 Fox spring and it was just barely too long to fit. I ended up getting the DVO spring for my stroke and it fit right on the money length wise. They didn't have a 400 x 2.25 DVO spring at any online retailer, but I called DVO directly and they had a ton in stock at their headquarters and I just ordered directly from them. Even their website said the spring I wanted was not available, so if you don't find the one you want online, you should give them a call.

 

I have the smallest DVO Jade. Diameter wise, it fits Fox coils. However, a 2.45 Fox spring was barely long enough for the pre-load adjuster. So I bought a 2.5-2.8 Fox spring and it was just barely too long to fit.

Thanks retswen, could you please take a measure of the accepted coil length?
I'd like to know i my titanium spring would fit, it's 124mm x 36mm ID... maybe it's on the short side?

 

The Fox 2.45 spring is 4.25 inches. The DVO 2.25 spring is 4.75 inches.

 

thanks again, really helpful.

 

Mine came stock w/ a steel 450 lb 2.25 125mm lenth coil. Probably to shave a little weight with it being steel. If you want a Ti coil it can easily be 132mm in length. Its for a shock that is 200mm from bolt to bolt center. Hope that helps.

 

After 6 rides, I was not able to dial in the Jade in a satisfactory way. I am pretty good with suspension set-ups, and I've owned DH bikes with coil shocks, and I own both a CC DB Air and a CCDB Inline - so I know how to fiddle with the settings to get it right.

(550lb spring on XL DVO model Tracer). I weigh 215 with a full pack. 205 nekkid. The Jade did not seem to handle repetitive deep holes very well at all, whether braking bumps or foot deep rock gardens. With the Jade, the back end had the worst brake jack I've ever experienced on a bike as well. I am saying this in the past tense because I took it off and installed my CCDBinline to give that a try.

Oh, after ride # 4, I traded to the 145mm position on the bike. It was instantly more fun, but still didn't handle the repetitive hits well (compared to my Knolly Endorphin 140mm travel 26er with CCDBi).

I'll let you know what I discover this weekend with the CCDBi in back and the DVO Diamond in front (weather permitting). I know it's now a full pound lighter!

 

After 6 rides, I was not able to dial in the Jade in a satisfactory way. I am pretty good with suspension set-ups, and I've owned DH bikes with coli shocks, and I own both a CC DB Air and a CCDB Inline - so I know how to fiddle with the settings to get it right.

(550lb spring on XL DVO model Tracer). I weigh 215 with a full pack. 205 nekkid) The Jade did not seem to handle repetitive deep holes very well at all, whether braking bumps or foot deep rock gardens. With the Jade, the back end had the worst brake jack I've ever experienced on a bike as well. I am saying this in the past tense because I took it off and installed my CCDBinline to give that a try.

Oh, after ride # 4, I traded to the 145mm position on the bike. It was instantly more fun, but still didn't handle the repetitive hits well (compared to my Knolly Endorphin 140mm travel 26er with CCDBi).

I'll let you know what I discover this weekend with the CCDBi in back and the DVO Diamond in front (weather permitting). I know it's now a full pound lighter!

I also ride the dvo edition tracer and have swapped the jade (and diamond). I just couldn't adjust settings to suit my riding style either. I had the correct spring for my weight and bike and have experience with several bikes with coil shocks. I had the same issues you mention. It's got a RSC monarch on there now. Recently ordered a Push Elevensix and expect delivery any day now.

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In spite of the bad reputation of the Cane Creek Inlines, especially with Intense owners, my Inline was amazing on my first day after replacing the Jade. It was every bit as supple on small trail chatter (I'm not exaggerating), and it handled deep repetitive hits better (such as successive foot deep holes in a rock garden, or deep braking bumps). It held up fine off 3' drops, and was adept at calming the rear when climbing. And it's nearly a pound lighter.

To be fair to the Jade, I am now convinced I must have had it set with too much rebound damping. That's the only explanation for a coil shock to feel overwhelmed by successive foot-deep holes that the Cane Creek handled just fine. Thing is, I had the rebound set slow because otherwise it felt bouncy just pedaling in and out of turns on flat-ish trails.

I hope my CCDBi doesn't suffer the same fate as it seems nearly 80% have - failure.

 

I've ridden the PUSH 11-6 on a Knolly Warden. It's the real deal. Definitely a pound heavier than any air options, but at least it gives you something in return. That yummy coil feel. And with two customizable settings, you can do anything you want with it - I imagine most 11-6 owners make a climb circuit and a descend circuit.

I still haven't seen anyone post the words "I love my Jade."

 

The DVO shock has a pretty aggressive HSR internal setting. You can get that changed if you want. Run the shock a tad bit on the faster side and it'll still "stick" when you really hit something. That's more of a DH tune characteristic.

I don't tihnk I've ever heard anyone call the shock "not supple". It's definitely that. Try backing out the rebound a bit since that can affect the compression a little bit as well.

 

is some loud rebound noise (squishing noise) normal for the Jade?

and is there a service guide somewhere? in the DVO website it's still 'coming soon'

 

Make sure the Pressure in a bladder under the right range.
Use a shock pump and pump up to 160-200 psi.
This will make the noise a little quiet and produce certain damping force.
Since the noise you hear is from cavitation (pressure loss in damping process).

 

I have the noise too. Dvo said it is normal. I did however lose oil from around the compression knobs on a ride today. Seems a little odd, have emailed dvo about it. Has anyone else experienced this? My shock is two weeks old and i bought it new.

 

DVO authorised my shock to be serviced under warranty. Will update whether the noise has been minimised after i get it back.


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Got the shock back after it was serviced under warranty. They fitted new seals and a heavier weight oil as i weigh 100kg. The noise has been significantly reduced and the shock has exceeded my expectations after a easter full of hard riding. Also fitted a heavier weight spring. Made me want to dial in my fork more.


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So I picked up a Jade for my Nomad v3. Is the LSC knob supposed to make clicking noise? I'm 225lbs so I set the bladder up with 200psi and started with the base tune. I found that I had dial in a lot of LSC to reduce pedal bob, which is something I didn't have to do with a Fox DHX2. The Jade feels pretty stable and super supple, but I hope I can dial out the bob.

 

Try an oval chain ring.

 

My LSC does not "click" the detents aren't noticeable enough, but there. Nomad V3 should have enough anti-squat to where you don't need a pedal switch, a tip try silencing your body movements. If you ever feel you need more low speed, I find cranking the HSC adjustment all the way in (more preload on the shim stack) and a preload turn on the coil. I do 1500-2000' climbs out of the gate, otherwise for general trail I keep a spin going and typical DH settings. I will say this is the best shock I've ever ridden, pair's perfectly with my Knolly.

 

Thanks for the input, i'll try tuning with HSC and see how that feels. At first I thought I may need a stiffer spring afterall but I measured sag and it's at 27% so that's not the issue.

 

Can I get some dimensions on this shock please? Looking at one for my niner Rip rdo (v2) and want to make sure the reservoir wont hit the down tube at full compression. If anyone has a 8.5x2.5 can you tell me how far down the resy is from the top mounting eye? Thanks!

 

I can give the 200*57 measurments if no one with the right one helps out

 

That would be great. If you can just measure from the upper eye (center or end) and down to the end of the piggy that would give me something to go on. It looks like the piggy is slid down a little farther than on the topaz.

 

It's a much bigger reservoir than the topaz. Pretty meaty shock. Sorry I don't have any numbers to help with.

 

Hmmm, I may be able to make it fit. It'd be close. I wonder if I could run it upside down.

 

I have an 8.5 x 2.5 and it is about 117mm from the center of the eye to the end of the piggy with the air cap installed.

Not much less in terms of distance than the distance from the eye to the bottom of the main cylinder of the shock.

The Jade has maybe 3-4mm between the eye and the top of the piggy.

The vertical depth of the shock from the edge of the coil to the top edge of the piggy is about 80mm.

 

If you want additional info I can pull my Jade off tonight and do some better photos with measurements.

 

The piggy is a bit further off the center of the body too, to make room for the threaded collar and coil I guess.

I'm going to call later and verify if I can run it upside down. I believe it would fit that way. As long as the rocker clears the spring retainer on the opposite end.

Maybe I could get Ronnie to send me the engineering drawings on it and make a cardboard dummy shock with those measurements

Thanks for all the help and pics guys!

 

Got the shock bolted up. It fits pretty well. But with the coil off I can compress the shock into the bottom out bumper and if I completely lay on it with all 180# of my chubby self I have maybe a 1-2mm of clearance between the down tube and the piggy.

I have four options. 1, leave it alone and hope I never bottom that hard, 2 machine a little off the bottom of the bladder cap nut, 3 make a small spacer to go under the bottom out bumper and keep the shock from compressing that last 1- 1.5mm. And 4 get anew offset bushing for the lower eye and hope it doesn't roll into the "shorter" position.

I'm leaning toward the spacer or taking a little material off the bladder cap nut. If I mess up the nut it's only $8 for a new one.

 

Super easy tear down and rebuild will be the same. For some reason they don't have the damper shaft removal on the service guide though.

 

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For some reason they don't have the damper shaft removal on the service guide though.

How did you do it? I want to take apart the damper shaft in order to clean the inside of it as I know it got contaminated but can't find any instructions on how it's done.