I'm looking at buying a Kona hardtale and have been wondering if Kona Frames hand made, and where are the made/built.
actually there are such things as completly automated band saws, tubing notchers, and milling machines....as well as automated TIG welders, however the welding machines cant do complicated fits like you would find on a bike frame. only an underpaid laborer in taiwan who's skills would be well compensated in the us...PapaLegba said:Aren't all bikes hand-made?
You have to cut the frame tubes and weld them together...
I could be wrong, but it's WHERE they're hand made that varies not how.
i totally agree with you about the design aspect of a frame....and i'm not knocking automation either.....i'd much rather have a company cut, bend, and notch their tubes on a cnc machine, that way every frame will ride close to the same, have the same geometry, etc...but haveing been in the welding industry before, and done some tig welding, the difference in quality of a weld from an automated machine, or a trained hand, is honestly no differerent. you can tell a lot about a weld by a visual inspection...the start/stop, the uniformity between puddles, width of the weld, and if it's centered on the joint, can all tell me if it's generally sound or not...i've also found that some of the wost welds around, will still hold together under the most extreme conditions and treatments...that's why i agree with you, that frame design, and material quality make a much bigger difference to me in selection of a frame. so yeah, some automation is the only way to go, and some is just a quicker way of doing the same thing.LeopardDog said:I wouldn't let the idea of automation deter me from buying a frame one bit. It's more about the design and quality of materials in my opinion that makes one frame work better then the next.
phxartboy said:This is Lil' Fred. He welded my Stinky. It took him 4 minutes and he recieved a chunk of bread for his efforts. Thanks Lil' Fred!
For a small insight as to who-where-how Konas are built, check out www.konabiketown.com
The blog archive for March 2006 has photos of Lil' Fred's Taiwanese cousinsputting together the first of Kona's Africa Bikes, which were designed and built for a joint program with Bristol-Myers-Squibb and Bicycling Magazine to assist Botswana health care workers in distributing medications to AIDS patients in remote rural areas. The whole blog is worth the read. Instead of just buying another couple of vacation homes or a fleet of exotic cars, the Kona guys would rather hand out a few more grants to grassroots folks who are building and maintaining trails, and helping to making the world a better place. Way cool, Dan & Jake! :thumbsup:
Near the bottom of the page, there's a group photo of the team at Insera that built the Kona Africa Bikes -- presumably, Insera is the contractor for Kona's other products as well.