mtnbiker72
The 15" Moto is big so it actually compares quite well with the 17" Access
Both have 22.8" Effective Top Tubes
The Moto 15" has a 30.5" standover, while I don't have the standover for the 17" Access...my 19" Access has a 30.3" standover so its safe to assume the 17" Access standover would be less than the 15" Moto
Hope this helps
Both have 22.8" Effective Top Tubes
The Moto 15" has a 30.5" standover, while I don't have the standover for the 17" Access...my 19" Access has a 30.3" standover so its safe to assume the 17" Access standover would be less than the 15" Moto
Hope this helps
Any chance that you could post the rest of the geo. from your 19" frame? Performance website doesn't seem to have any geometry specs.mtnbiker72 said:
2009 Access XCL 9R Mountain Frame Geometry (item 30-1874)
17 19 21 23
Seat Tube (C-T) 431.8 mm 482.6 mm 533.4 mm 584.2 mm
Seat Tube (C-C) 361.8 mm 412.6 mm 463.4 mm 514.2 mm
Effective Top Tube 580 mm 605 mm 630 mm 650 mm
Actual Top Tube 555.7 mm 577.1 mm 601.9 mm 625 mm
Chainstay 455 mm 455 mm 455 mm 455 mm
Head tube 110 mm 115 mm 140 mm 155 mm
Bottom Bracket Drop 60 mm 60 mm 60 mm 60 mm
Wheel Base 1066.9 mm 1092 mm 1117.7 mm 1138 mm
Head Angle 71 deg 71 deg 71 deg 71 deg
Seat Angle 72.5 deg 72.5 deg 72.5 deg 72.5 deg
Build Requirements
Seatpost diameter 31.6 mm
Headset Threadless, 1 1/8" Steerer Diameter, Integrated
Front Derailleur 34.9 mm
Seat Tube Collar 34.9 mm
Bottom Bracket Shell 68 mm
Miscellaneous
Weight 3.8 lbs
Replaceable Dropout Yes
Rear Rack Eyelets Yes
No standover is given but mine is measured at 30.3" on a 19" frame and it weighed in at 4lbs 1oz (4.0625lbs)
17 19 21 23
Seat Tube (C-T) 431.8 mm 482.6 mm 533.4 mm 584.2 mm
Seat Tube (C-C) 361.8 mm 412.6 mm 463.4 mm 514.2 mm
Effective Top Tube 580 mm 605 mm 630 mm 650 mm
Actual Top Tube 555.7 mm 577.1 mm 601.9 mm 625 mm
Chainstay 455 mm 455 mm 455 mm 455 mm
Head tube 110 mm 115 mm 140 mm 155 mm
Bottom Bracket Drop 60 mm 60 mm 60 mm 60 mm
Wheel Base 1066.9 mm 1092 mm 1117.7 mm 1138 mm
Head Angle 71 deg 71 deg 71 deg 71 deg
Seat Angle 72.5 deg 72.5 deg 72.5 deg 72.5 deg
Build Requirements
Seatpost diameter 31.6 mm
Headset Threadless, 1 1/8" Steerer Diameter, Integrated
Front Derailleur 34.9 mm
Seat Tube Collar 34.9 mm
Bottom Bracket Shell 68 mm
Miscellaneous
Weight 3.8 lbs
Replaceable Dropout Yes
Rear Rack Eyelets Yes
No standover is given but mine is measured at 30.3" on a 19" frame and it weighed in at 4lbs 1oz (4.0625lbs)
Google "Performance Bike Coupons"...I have almost always found a 10% off code (did when I purchased my Access 9r last month)
This looks good. What size should I order? I'm 5'11" with 31 inseam. Also what is a good fork to get with this? Thanks in advance.
So...
I'm interested in this frame, but...
Performance can't provide standover heights on the frame. I tried the Live Chat and the tech told me that SO will vary based on tires, fork, etc., but that since it was a sloping top tube, SO shouldn't matter. WTF?
I'm plenty familiar with MTB geometries. And while not the MOST critical factor in fit, for a guy who is 5'9" with short legs and normal length arms, SO is pretty important.
I know that mtnbiker72 posted a SO on his 19" frame of 30.3 inches. Does anyone here have the 17" frame? IT would be great if someone did and could measure the SO on that size (or any others to help everyone else out) and post it here.
I'm interested in this frame, but...
Performance can't provide standover heights on the frame. I tried the Live Chat and the tech told me that SO will vary based on tires, fork, etc., but that since it was a sloping top tube, SO shouldn't matter. WTF?
I'm plenty familiar with MTB geometries. And while not the MOST critical factor in fit, for a guy who is 5'9" with short legs and normal length arms, SO is pretty important.
I know that mtnbiker72 posted a SO on his 19" frame of 30.3 inches. Does anyone here have the 17" frame? IT would be great if someone did and could measure the SO on that size (or any others to help everyone else out) and post it here.
Here's a 20% off coupon this weekend if you're interested:
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Cheers.
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Cheers.
In case anyone is interested in the 26" Access XCL
14.5 16.5 18.5 20.5 22.5
Seat Tube (C-T) 368.3 mm 419 mm 470 mm 520 mm 571.5 mm
Seat Tube (C-C) 298.3 mm 349 mm 400 mm 450 mm 501.5 mm
Effective Top Tube 540 mm 580 mm 605 mm 630 mm 650 mm
Actual Top Tube 524.3 mm 555.7mm 579 mm 607.2 mm 630 mm
Chainstay 420 mm 420 mm 420 mm 420 mm 420 mm
Head tube 110 mm 110 mm 115 mm 140 mm 155 mm
Bottom Bracket Drop 34 mm 34 mm 34 mm 34 mm 34 mm
Wheel Base 1012.6 mm 1047.3 mm 1072.1 mm 1098 mm 113.2 mm
Head Angle 70.5 deg 71 deg 71 deg 71 deg 71 deg
Seat Angle 73 deg 73 deg 73 deg 73 deg 72.5 deg
Build Requirements
Seatpost diameter 31.6 mm
Headset Threadless, 1 1/8" steerer, Zero stack
Front Derailleur 34.9 mm
Seat Tube Collar 34.9 mm
Bottom Bracket Shell 68 mm
14.5 16.5 18.5 20.5 22.5
Seat Tube (C-T) 368.3 mm 419 mm 470 mm 520 mm 571.5 mm
Seat Tube (C-C) 298.3 mm 349 mm 400 mm 450 mm 501.5 mm
Effective Top Tube 540 mm 580 mm 605 mm 630 mm 650 mm
Actual Top Tube 524.3 mm 555.7mm 579 mm 607.2 mm 630 mm
Chainstay 420 mm 420 mm 420 mm 420 mm 420 mm
Head tube 110 mm 110 mm 115 mm 140 mm 155 mm
Bottom Bracket Drop 34 mm 34 mm 34 mm 34 mm 34 mm
Wheel Base 1012.6 mm 1047.3 mm 1072.1 mm 1098 mm 113.2 mm
Head Angle 70.5 deg 71 deg 71 deg 71 deg 71 deg
Seat Angle 73 deg 73 deg 73 deg 73 deg 72.5 deg
Build Requirements
Seatpost diameter 31.6 mm
Headset Threadless, 1 1/8" steerer, Zero stack
Front Derailleur 34.9 mm
Seat Tube Collar 34.9 mm
Bottom Bracket Shell 68 mm
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