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Im currently running SRAM code R's on my Enduro bike and I am pretty fed up with them, they have a really bad wandering bite point and fade really quickly on steep descents.

I've been looking at the market and have been a getting pretty excited about the Hope brakes, specifically T4v4 with 2.3mm solid rotors. The performance sounds pretty great and I like the idea of supporting a smaller company that doesn't ship everything out to China for production. I have a few concerns about them though, just wondering what your guys opinions and thoughts are as well.

- I've heard they can generally be a noisey break, which could be a bit of a deal breaker for me.

- I have some concerns about buying pads and whatnot,both short term and longterm. currently my local bike shop does supply Hope parts but who knows how long that will last for. I can say for certain that Shimano and SRAM aren't going anywhere, but I have no idea about my local bike shop or hope them selves even. How have you hope owners found it when trying to get replacement parts.

Those are the only real main issues I have come across, other than some complaints about bleeding, what other issues or praise do you guys have about these brakes? Any recommendations for a comparative product?

For context I'm riding a 170mm travel bike, weigh about 165lb, and ride out in the Canadian Rockies. Trails are usually steeper tech, with the odd slab, with descents of usually 300-700m and days usually ranging from 800-1500m total descent.
 
They're really

Squeak

Pretty.

They do

Squeak

Indeed stop you.

Some people say

Squeak

Hope squeal is

Squeak

A myth.

I couldn't hear such declarations over the noise of my squeaky brakes.

Not sure which version I had. Was a few years ago.

But I didn't buy the leaking version of the Shimano brakes, either.

So I'm definitely an outlier.
 
Zero negatives with mine. Best brakes I've owned hands down. I haven't had to touch them since achieving a good bleed once I learned you have to cycle the pistons. Best heat management of any brake I've owned. Best modulation, best power. I can't say enough good things. Heck, I didn't even have to pay a bunch. Scored a lightly used set off pinkbike.

Couldn't be happier and I'm no fanboy. I hated t3 v4's. Weak, over priced, with way too much modulation. I couldn't wait to go back to shimano zee after running t3's. Hope addressed all of my issues with t3 and created what I feel is the best brakes on the market.
 
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FYI, there might be new Hopes coming out soon, and the old T4's could be on sale or the new ones might interest you.
Interesting, what are you basing that off of? I had a feeling that they might be releasing something based on the fact that most suppliers don't seem to be restocking the T4V4's or even the E4. I just haven't seen anything to suggest that's the case
 
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Zero negatives with mine. Best brakes I've owned hands down. I haven't had to touch them since achieving a good bleed once I learned you have to cycle the pistons. Best heat management of any brake I've owned. Best modulation, best power. I can't say enough good things. Heck, I didn't even have to pay a bunch. Scored a lightly used set off pinkbike.

Couldn't be happier and I'm no fanboy. I hated t3 v4's. Weak, over priced, with way too much modulation. I couldn't wait to go back to shimano zee after running t3's. Hope addressed all of my issues with t3 and created what I feel is the best brakes on the market.
Any issues with noise?

What rotors are you running?
 
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Is a wandering brake point not most of the time because of air in the system?
Thats what I've heard, but this is after a fresh bleed, it's possible that I messed up the bleed but that's not something I have ever experienced with my Shimano brakes. If I bled those, they were good and reliable for several months
 
Any issues with noise?

What rotors are you running?
magura storm HC and SL.

Never had any noise with green, purple or disco metal pads. When wet basically all brakes can produce a turkey call sometimes but even wet t4's have been surprisingly quiet for me. I'm in Colorado so dry is the default. You'll want feedback from riders in wet climates if that's you.
 
Is a wandering brake point not most of the time because of air in the system?
Shimano finally admitted their wandering bite issue is from oil viscosity and piston seals. If the piston seals do play a role it's very minor compared to viscosity because many people have been happy with just different oil. Personally I think shimano is saying it's a combo issue because they don't want people simply buying new oil for their old brakes.
 
Shimano finally admitted their wandering bite issue is from oil viscosity and piston seals. If the piston seals do play a role it's very minor compared to viscosity because many people have been happy with just different oil. Personally I think shimano is saying it's a combo issue because they don't want people simply buying new oil for their old brakes.
Makes sense even I am one of the lucky ones that never had an issue with Shimano brakes.

The OP has Sram Code R brakes, wonder what fluid they are using.
 
Actually, it's been a while since I ran green pads and those did produce a little noise sometimes. It was never too loud or annoying. I've been running metal disco for a while now which have been very quiet overall.
 
Ergonomics are personal preference, but if you can I'd recommend spending some time squeezing the lever before you commit.
I find the sharp corner at the end of the lever uncomfortable. You can remedy that with a round file or a dremel, buy silver levers if you think you'll need that.
 
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