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#21 ·
Az2Au said:
I did a test on this when someone asked a few weeks ago and got it to mount one 29 X 2.4". My guess is that any really heavy casing won't work.
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Would probably work great with an insert then, my rears seat with relatively no effort and both have inserts. Might be something worth picking up
 
#22 ·
kustomz said:
Mounted a few tires... As in it will seat a bead of a 29 x 2.4?
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Seats the bead just fine. Also last week I did enduro 27.5x2.5 tires at home. But theres a difference between a tubless tire-rim combo that can be seated w/hand pump and one that needs the valve removed and an air compressor to “blast” it on due to a poor fit/gaps.

To get around that latter one, with the electric compressor and a hand pump, I use the techniques in my sticky thread for mounting tubeless tires w/o air compressors.
 
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#23 ·
Az2Au said:
I did a test on this when someone asked a few weeks ago and got it to mount one 29 X 2.4". My guess is that any really heavy casing won't work.
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Works fine with a heavy casing tire if you use the correct technique.
 
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k2rider1964 said:
I'm guessing you didn't realize he's asking about the MINI inflators that people are carrying in your pack in lieu of C02 cartridges.....?
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OP only said "Small-ish form factor". I thought we were talking "parking lot" maintenance, not "trail side" maintenance. There is no way I'd carry a battery dependent inflation device riding. I don't even use CO2's. Pumps only. Dealing with a flat is bad enough. Realizing my air pump battery is dead just when I need it would send me into into a rampage.
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#25 ·
I have one (can’t remember the brand name) that looks more or less identical (other than color maybe and logo/brand) to nearly all of the ones I see reviewed and sold online. Works fine, the pressure gauge isn’t as accurate as my two digital gauges, but definitely close enough for trailside duty. I’ve never had good luck with CO2 carts when I needed them and always carried a mini pump as backup, so the electric pump is a nice alternative to that combo.
 
#30 ·
I've been using these two for the past several months. I used the small one on the trail last weekend. Easy peasy. Topped off the tire in a few seconds. I use the Fanttik as my main pump. Pre set the pressure and stops when it reaches it. Works with road bike pressures too.

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#31 ·
My main use for my electric is for filling tires after reassemble on a vacation trip and for topping off on the same trip. Secondary is if I have to replace a tire on said trip or change one for any reason (not on the trail). On the trail I want a hand pump for the endless air.
 
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127.0.0.1 said:
cycplus AS2 Pro

good enough for Silca to use cycplus to make their Silca branded clone version

they rock.

I now have three, one for the Brompton (100psi), one I always camelbak for gravel
and mtb, adjusting pressure-to-terrain in far less time than hand pump, and
one designated for various other jobs like wheelbarrow and snowblower


this vids shows a complete examination of the build
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Silca's is not a "clone", it was 18 months in development. They originally wanted to use SRAM's mech batteries.


Details from 5mins 20secs
 
#33 ·
PuddleDuck said:
Silca's is not a "clone", it was 18 months in development. They originally wanted to use SRAM's mech batteries.


Details from 5mins 20secs
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There's a thread in either the Escape Collective Discord or on Vital (can't remember) where a person that is close with a Cycplus employee "confirms" that those are the internals. Nothing wrong with that. Silca didn't need to reinvent an already excellent product anyway. Improving on it is still a win. I'd buy one of theirs if I could.
 
#34 ·
Az2Au said:
There's a thread in either the Escape Collective Discord or on Vital (can't remember) where a person that is close with a Cycplus employee "confirms" that those are the internals. Nothing wrong with that. Silca didn't need to reinvent an already excellent product anyway. Improving on it is still a win. I'd buy one of theirs if I could.
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Interesting. I know you to be a astute poster. However, I wish to dig deeper in this instance.

Even if some/all of the the internals are the same or similar* I restate my point that the device is not a "clone", not an exact copy

If you listen to the pod I linked, Josh makes it clear that the Silca product contains bespoke elements. We know that the casing and interface are different. Even if Silca has licensed part of the Cyclus's internal design....
  • is the battery to the same spec?
  • are the bearings to the same spec?
  • are all of the materials to the same level of heat resistance?

Again, if you listen to the pod, Josh mentions all of these components
Just because something looks the same and fits the same doesn't mean it is the same.
e.g what 6804 bearings do you want in your hubs...unbranded Chinese ones, branded Japanese ones, or premium Japanese / German ones?
They all look the same.
To a non technical person in e.g. marketing or sales or manufacturing "the internals are the same"....

Does one trust the spoken words, words on the record, of Josh, who has introduced revolutionary innovation to chain lubricants and their application AND who has stated that he won't release products that don't have a clear competitive advantage***
OR
an faceless individual on a forum who claims to be close to a Cyclus employee....where for competitive reasons the Cyclus employee has a reason to be biased...

I'm waiting for someone to tear both units down to constituent parts before I believe a close source to a biased Cyclus employee of unknown techical competence over Josh.


***as a small company, Josh has stated that he doesn't want to enter into markets that are "red seas" from all of the blood in the water from teh competition. He only wants to enter either less competitive markets, or markets in which he believes. The meet the founder pod with him and Wade Wallace is a great listen.
 
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I, for one, think these are an enormous waste of the worlds resources.

A mini/micro handpump is smaller, lighter, doesn't need charging, doesn't need lithium being ripped out the ground, will inflate an infinite number of tyres so long as it's got power (you've eaten something in the last week), and can be recycled. Even a Co2 canister can do almost all of that.
 
#36 ·
OiLoikBoiks said:
I, for one, think these are an enormous waste of the worlds resources.

A mini/micro handpump is smaller, lighter, doesn't need charging, doesn't need lithium being ripped out the ground, will inflate an infinite number of tyres so long as it's got power (you've eaten something in the last week), and can be recycled. Even a Co2 canister can do almost all of that.
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So you own no battery powered devices then? I think phones, laptops, eBikes, EVs etc will account for way more lithium being mined than a little electric bike pump.

Also, a mini pump may be smaller and lighter but it doesn't allow you to check and adjust tyre pressures on the fly, which personally is the main selling point of these devices (although I've yet to buy one). Granted I could take a pump with a gauge, but they're cumbersome and often inaccurate.
 
#37 ·
citizenlee said:
So you own no battery powered devices then? I think phones, laptops, eBikes, EVs etc will account for way more lithium being mined than a little electric bike pump.

Also, a mini pump may be smaller and lighter but it doesn't allow you to check and adjust tyre pressures on the fly, which personally is the main selling point of these devices (although I've yet to buy one). Granted I could take a pump with a gauge, but they're cumbersome and often inaccurate.
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I own battery devices that would be completely unusable if they weren't battery powered (carrying a landline rotary telephone isn't useful)
There's just no need to have an electric pump for a bicycle.
 
#39 ·
k2rider1964 said:
I'm guessing you didn't realize he's asking about the MINI inflators that people are carrying in your pack in lieu of C02 cartridges.....?
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Lots of people reading this and learning from it besides the OP. ANd then there is this note.

dotcodotuk said:
I'm not expecting them to seat a tyre,
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Obviously this will differ for some people, but a couple of my flats required the tire to be seated. I carry CO2, and and going to continue to do so, but I've been considering one of these inflators to just leave in the car for when I go riding, rather than carrying the big pump that doesn't fit neatly in the frunk with the rest of my gear (helmets, shoes, gloves). So right now, I have to carry the pump in the back of my car. It'd be worth the cost just for the convenience of saving the space.

I actually have a Milwaukee M12 pump that is like the one he posted; however, it only has a schrader hose fitting.
 
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