Have you guys bought the new Albert Pro or Shredda tires?
Shredda is made from same as Albert.
Shredda is made from same as Albert.
Schwalbe Albert pro, Shredda tires ?
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How many psi did you pump up in the tire?
That's really not bad. I put my 2.5 Gravity Soft through 6 days of punishment (trail version for other days) and the wear was pretty heavy, though I wasn't surprised because the "soft" on this model tire is pretty dang Soft. But other reports, such as yours, bode very well for the longevity!
High PSI to limit squirm, or squirmy feel at least? Albert Trail? Even at this higher PSI, did the radials still not feel more damped than non radial tires? And how much do you weigh?
Thanks for the feedback!
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2.6 gravity. Not squirm but whole tire flex. I could easily roll the tire off of the rim at even 4 and 5 psi over what I typically run. That might be the shape and extra volume of the tire. I am now thinking the 2.5 gravity was probably the correct casing for me. Also, at higher PSIs the 2.6 behaves very much like a very round tire (tracks like crap) and is not very good at off-camber stuff either. I probably weigh about 235 lb right now, which is roughly 10 lb more than when I'm in top riding shape. Going to go ride horse thief right now and get a gauge for how that PSI works on sharp ledgey stuff. I will base my selection off that but will probably end up putting my Marry up front for Moab and keeping the 2.6 in the rear.
Ahhh right. Thanks for the feedback. Pretty sure I won't be rolling these off the casing (edit: meant to say "I won't be rolling the casing off the rim"), as I'm only 160lb kitted up, so you probably need 30% more tire than me, relatively speaking. And It's quite possible high speed berms might not be the main game for these tires...though I'm fairly confident square ledgey stuff is! In Moab, I ran the MM up front, and the Gravity Albert Soft (2.5) out back 6 of 8 days...it was great. The other days I ran a Trail Albert (the only day I didn't ride blacks and double blacks), and one day I ran heavy inserts under the gravity casing out back and also under the trail casing in front, which also proved to be a great, damped combo. Anyhow, I'd love to hear your feedback after Horse Theif and Moab. I don't suppose you can get your hands on a 2.5 Gravity to compare?
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Awesome on Horse Thief! That's the first proper fins and ledges I've hit with them and they're fantastic on that. Work crazy good on the techy roll-ins, too...just really calms everything down. The rolling speed up and down due to the compliance is also phenomenal.
They're still compliant at higher psi but have noticably more rebound. I think you're right about high speed berms, maybe they'll nail that with other casings/ tread designs. My faith is restored as a choice for Moab.
Ah, yes, that's something that hasn't been talked about (much, or at all)...real-world rolling speed. I suspect when rolling resistance has been discussed/considered previously in this forum, it's mostly been fire road climb-type rolling resistance. And some mag reviews talk about how surely the supposed larger contact patch adds to the rolling resistance just a little (though I'm not sure they actually feel the extra rolling resistance from greater contact patch). But having a more damped, compliant tire (such was when running low PSI in conventional tires) is going to actually going to reduce rolling resistance in the chunk!
FWIW, I'd imagine at my weight, the trail weight might feel/behave to me like the Gravity does to you...and you'd need a 1,600g "super DH" variant to provide the support my 1,390g gravity provides for me, ha.
I didn’t notice any increase in rolling resistance on dirt…perhaps a little on the pavement on my way to the trails. Although my PSI is quite higher than I normally run. I was at 26/28….gonna try going down a hair - 24/26 and see how that works.
Either way I have it in my head that once Tacky Chans are available in radial I’ll be running that on the rear.
Either way I have it in my head that once Tacky Chans are available in radial I’ll be running that on the rear.
I'm 200lbs on a 50lb emtb and I run 26F/28R on a 30mm IW rim. I think that's the absolute lowest I'd go but for you definitely try lower than that.
Yeah, I bet I could even go down to 22/24
I'd recommened taking it down 1psi at a time. Seems to have a bigger effect than with other brands.
At your weight, if you don't have an abundance of square edged rocks, I think you'd still be safe at that pressure. OF course my psi measuring device is surely different than yours. For whatever reason, I'm liking a little more support in/on the berms with the front tire, so I've been running 24/24 for trail riding. IF lots of chunk expected (Moab trip for example), I then step up to Gravity 2.5 in the rear, but maintain the same 24lbs. I'm 160lbs.
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I run 2.8/3.0 tires on my Hardtail and roll up on folks running 2.4s.
Example is group rides where we’re all coasting down a hill together. I’m average weight and not aero tucking. My bike just rolls faster. I also see it on flat tracks flat corners, I can corner faster.
Definitely doesn’t make me faster uphill though.
doesn’t matter either since it is getting onto impossible to get 3.0s and 2.8s in 29.
Here’s to hoping a range of radials in at least 2.6 drops.
Example is group rides where we’re all coasting down a hill together. I’m average weight and not aero tucking. My bike just rolls faster. I also see it on flat tracks flat corners, I can corner faster.
Definitely doesn’t make me faster uphill though.
doesn’t matter either since it is getting onto impossible to get 3.0s and 2.8s in 29.
Here’s to hoping a range of radials in at least 2.6 drops.
My girlfriend who's 132 lbs tried 20/23 for enduro and said it felt good! She ran 17.5/19.5 on Maxxis tires, dd and dh casing.
I'm 175 lbs and 21/24 was way to low on a chill downhill with little speed without puching it, felt squirmy!
29x2.6 Albert Gravity Pro for both of us.
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