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Woods Bicycle El Camino
Hey, just wanted to say thanks for sharing this link.

I was searching for a shop to build a custom frame but could only find places overseas, so I was really pleased to see that Woods is in my country and the El Camino is almost exactly what I was looking for! They are also super accomodating, willing to alter the shock position and every aspect of the geometry to my specs. They even offered to put a Pinion gearbox but I decided not to go that route.

The whole process took 3 months from start to finish and I just got the build completed last week. Super stoked on how it turned out :cool:

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Joined this club...really enjoying the Murmur! Need to tinker a bit with the suspension, but a really intuitive bike to ride.
Sweet looking murmur! Just picked up a ‘21 frame myself with an Ohlins TTX M.2 to build up.

Is that a Mezzer up front? I just ordered a Mez Pro for the Murmur and would be keen to hear any feedback. Gonna start mine off at 150.


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Sweet looking murmur! Just picked up a ‘21 frame myself with an Ohlins TTX M.2 to build up.

Is that a Mezzer up front? I just ordered a Mez Pro for the Murmur and would be keen to hear any feedback. Gonna start mine off at 150.


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Yep it's a Mezzer pro. Best fork I've owned (well, a tie with Selva C). I'm not sure if I can give any better feedback than can be read in the enormous Mezzer users thread on this form (in suspension and shocks). One thing I will say is just be patient when setting it up, there are a lot of things to play around with and the fork is very sensitive to air pressure (digital pump is a must). If I were you I'd just run 160 to start with, as I see no downsides in climbing with the longer fork. The Murmur is the best climbing enduro bike I've owned to date for technical steeps (majority of my climbs).
 
Yep it's a Mezzer pro. Best fork I've owned (well, a tie with Selva C). I'm not sure if I can give any better feedback than can be read in the enormous Mezzer users thread on this form (in suspension and shocks). One thing I will say is just be patient when setting it up, there are a lot of things to play around with and the fork is very sensitive to air pressure (digital pump is a must). If I were you I'd just run 160 to start with, as I see no downsides in climbing with the longer fork. The Murmur is the best climbing enduro bike I've owned to date for technical steeps (majority of my climbs).
Thanks - yeah, I’m offshore on a boat now (3-1/2 weeks), so I’ve been picking through both the super long Mezzer threads. Fork is coming at 150, so I’ll try that - one of the big selling points for me was the ability to change travel so easily, so I’m sure it’ll see some time at 160.

Good to hear about the technical climbing ability. I currently have a transition sentinel and, while it’s a great bike, it’s jusI feel like it’s aimed just a tad too much for the Downs then my typical riding encounters. Plus the feel and aesthetic of steel is just my thing (other bike is an older Canfield SS).
 
Go figure, people who like quirky bikes like quirky forks! I have a Mezzer on my Murmur, too. 😃 Though I went with an Expert, for 90% of the Manitou goodness with only 40% of the faff. I love to fiddle with trying different components, but for some reason not my suspension settings. Fwiw I'm running it at 140. Though I do have the intention of trying out 160 or 170 eventually.

Against Joe's advice, I recently set it up as a mullet to see how that feels. Definitely quickens steering, but as a cost to some stability through fast chunk.

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Also, Pinkbike has fairly active Starling owners thread: https://www.pinkbike.com/forum/listcomments/?threadid=227910
 
Go figure, people who like quirky bikes like quirky forks! I have a Mezzer on my Murmur, too. 😃 Though I went with an Expert, for 90% of the Manitou goodness with only 40% of the faff. I love to fiddle with trying different components, but for some reason not my suspension settings. Fwiw I'm running it at 140. Though I do have the intention of trying out 160 or 170 eventually.

Against Joe's advice, I recently set it up as a mullet to see how that feels. Definitely quickens steering, but as a cost to some stability through fast chunk.

Also, Pinkbike has fairly active Starling owners thread: https://www.pinkbike.com/forum/listcomments/?threadid=227910
Sweet - LOVE that color! Big fan of the yellow-orange spectrum. Blue is ok too - somehow I seem to just end up with blue bikes and it's getting kind of stale. Suppose I can always get it painted!

I was also debating between the Expert and Pro Mezzer - was looking at used forks and realized both the Mezzer editions can now be had new for the price of an unspectacular used fork ($450- $580), so I treated myself. A tinge of regret I didn't go with the simpler version, as I'll also be working to figure out a whole new bike, rear setup (first time on a spring) etc. But then again, I do like to tinker. Based on what I've read about setup and tuning, maybe Manitou should call the Pro version the Puzzler.

The Murmur will get the 160mm treatment first, as I have an Fit-4 160mm Fox 36 on my Transition that will go on first. And cool to hear the mullet report - I did that with my Canfield Nimble 9 SS out of the gate while waiting for an XD-compatible SS adapter and thought it was pretty fun. At 5-8 I do find myself buzzing the rear more times than I'd like on my current bikes.
 
Saw a sweet full suspension bike on Pinkbike recently, the Dawley Bikes T16. Anyone ever heard of this brand or bike? Seems like a linkage driven single pivot with a flex stay rear so kind of Horst link-ish perhaps similar to a Reeb SST suspension wise?
 
Saw a sweet full suspension bike on Pinkbike recently, the Dawley Bikes T16. Anyone ever heard of this brand or bike? Seems like a linkage driven single pivot with a flex stay rear so kind of Horst link-ish perhaps similar to a Reeb SST suspension wise?
linkage driven single pivot, nice looking bike, I bet its $$$$
 
Saw a sweet full suspension bike on Pinkbike recently, the Dawley Bikes T16. Anyone ever heard of this brand or bike? Seems like a linkage driven single pivot with a flex stay rear so kind of Horst link-ish perhaps similar to a Reeb SST suspension wise?
meh. Looks almost identical to the SST with 5mm less travel, a slightly different linkage, smaller tubes and brazed joints.

The flex stay doesn't have any well define soft area so it may flex a little in each stay at the smallest diameter near the dropout.

Big plus would be the outboard bearings on the lower pivot although I'm not convinced it's done as well as the REEB given that the SST uses 3D printed parts. Their design kind of limits the kinematics you can develop.

I'll say in the pics it looks like the rear tire would hit the seat tube - I wonder if a production bike might look a little different?

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Saw this French builder, Soum, on Pinkbike.

Appears they recently brought it to market. Semi-custom geo. Linkage driven single pivot.

Look pretty nice. Reminds me of that Scottish fabricator Swarf (I think that was the name).

Not sure what kind of steel they're using. Bit perplexed why they're doing internal routing.





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