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#881 ·
socalrider77 said:
Anyone a heavier rider running the cascade link? I’m 250lbs and have been having some trouble with setup with my superdeluxe air. At 30% sag the back end feels too gooey with not enough support, and bobs a decent amount climbing. I bumped up the pressure which put me at about 26-27% sag which feels like it has more support but obviously comes at the expense of some off the top feel, and it still doesn’t seem to have as much support in berms as the stock link with a megneg can installed.

Reached out to a local suspension tuning shop who thinks the cascade link is exacerbating the lack of damping that’s already there for how heavy I am, and recommended going with a custom tune and the stock link. Just curious if anyone else has any thoughts


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I can't speak to personal experience as I'm at a lower weight, but I do have a superdeluxe coil with a vorsprung tractive tune for the sentinel with the cascade link and it's very nice. The nice thing about the tractive tune is that it takes into account your weight, riding style, and frame (even with cascade links) and gives a fairly ideal tune for that rider, and doesn't rely on the experience/intuition of the tuner which is sometimes wrong and takes multiple tries to get right.

As far as using the cascade link or not, I would just consider how you want the bike to ride. The CC link increases the travel on the v2 sentinel by 15mm, which is a fairly drastic change.
 
#882 ·
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new shoes on the senty - 2.3 butcher t9 up front and t7 eliminator out back - awesome awesome combo, these spesh tyres have come a long long way from years ago! they feel every bit as good as any maxxis combo ive had (and tried everything!) butcher t9 is stupidly grippy/sticky - grippier than a dhf 3c and not far off a assegai - and eliminator has tonnes more traction than the dissector it replaced, overally a similar rolling speed to the dhf/dissector combo, maybe a touch slower, but so so so much more grip front and rear.. very impressed!
 
#883 ·
Didzy2009 said:
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new shoes on the senty - 2.3 butcher t9 up front and t7 eliminator out back - awesome awesome combo, these spesh tyres have come a long long way from years ago! they feel every bit as good as any maxxis combo ive had (and tried everything!) butcher t9 is stupidly grippy/sticky - grippier than a dhf 3c and not far off a assegai - and eliminator has tonnes more traction than the dissector it replaced, overally a similar rolling speed to the dhf/dissector combo, maybe a touch slower, but so so so much more grip front and rear.. very impressed!
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Shhhhh don’t tell everyone, then they’ll get more expensive! Let them buy maxxis [emoji38]


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#885 ·
socalrider77 said:
Anyone a heavier rider running the cascade link? I’m 250lbs and have been having some trouble with setup with my superdeluxe air. At 30% sag the back end feels too gooey with not enough support, and bobs a decent amount climbing. I bumped up the pressure which put me at about 26-27% sag which feels like it has more support but obviously comes at the expense of some off the top feel, and it still doesn’t seem to have as much support in berms as the stock link with a megneg can installed.

Reached out to a local suspension tuning shop who thinks the cascade link is exacerbating the lack of damping that’s already there for how heavy I am, and recommended going with a custom tune and the stock link. Just curious if anyone else has any thoughts


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At the same amount of shock sag the CC link gives you 5-6mm more wheel sag than stock. This creates added small bump compliance but sacrifices mid stroke support.
You can ride the CC link with slightly less shock sag and still have the same or better small bump compliance than stock.
I used to ride at 16mm shock sag stock, now ride 14mm on the CC link and have slightly better small bump compliance, similar mid stroke support and more end stroke support.

It also maintains your geometry while pedaling better with a little less sag on the CC link.

I'm 190lbs roughly and picked the link for more end stroke support.
 
#886 ·
Fleijah said:
At the same amount of shock sag the CC link gives you 5-6mm more wheel sag than stock. This creates added small bump compliance but sacrifices mid stroke support.
You can ride the CC link with slightly less shock sag and still have the same or better small bump compliance than stock.
I used to ride at 16mm shock sag stock, now ride 14mm on the CC link and have slightly better small bump compliance, similar mid stroke support and more end stroke support.

It also maintains your geometry while pedaling better with a little less sag on the CC link.

I'm 190lbs roughly and picked the link for more end stroke support.
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That makes sense. It did feel a bit better with less sag. So the midstroke support should be about the same as the stock link with less sag?


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#888 ·
Fleijah said:
CC with 2mm less (shock) sag is roughly equal to stock link in terms of midstroke and small bump sens.
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So then at that rate, running the link is for the bottom out support, extra travel, and potentially slightly more small bump sensitivity if you’re wanting to not change the geo much


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#891 ·
Anyone here still using the stock Lyrik Ultimate and SDU? I'm curious how different everyone's settings are from Rockshox' suggestions. The fork feels good. The shock feels.. neutral? I feel like I don't have enough mid-stroke or small bump sensitivity, but I also don't feel like I'm just blowing through the travel. I feel like I can squeeze a little more performance out of it with just the compression and rebound adjustments.
 
#892 ·
RadicalPugilism said:
Anyone here still using the stock Lyrik Ultimate and SDU? I'm curious how different everyone's settings are from Rockshox' suggestions. The fork feels good. The shock feels.. neutral? I feel like I don't have enough mid-stroke or small bump sensitivity, but I also don't feel like I'm just blowing through the travel. I feel like I can squeeze a little more performance out of it with just the compression and rebound adjustments.
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Just install a meg neg can and it will solve those problems
 
#896 ·
I assume this has been covered but my search skills are failing so: anyone have experience with the DHX Coil? Feel and fitment on a carbon frame? I’m tired of dealing with a blown up X2 - saying it happens monthly is barely hyperbole.

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#897 ·
cykelk said:
I assume this has been covered but my search skills are failing so: anyone have experience with the DHX Coil? Feel and fitment on a carbon frame? I’m tired of dealing with a blown up X2 - saying it happens monthly is barely hyperbole.

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lol, my x2 has had to go back twice for rebuilds. The first because it was making swishing noises and needed the damper bled, and the second time it just got stuck down in its travel and wouldn't fully extend. Fox did the repairs under warranty both time. Never blew out the damper entirely like above. Fingers crossed it doesn't have to go back, it won't be covered under warranty soon. If it does I'm getting SD Air or a DVO
 
#899 ·
cykelk said:
I assume this has been covered but my search skills are failing so: anyone have experience with the DHX Coil? Feel and fitment on a carbon frame? I’m tired of dealing with a blown up X2 - saying it happens monthly is barely hyperbole.

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You're asking specifically about the DHX? Can't help you. I have a DHX2 on my Sentinel though, and I'm very happy with it. I run a slightly stiffer spring than what the calculators tell me to—I'm on a 400 per recommendation of Lars at Transition, while the online calculators suggest I should be on a 350 or 375 (I weigh ~150 lbs). I think any lighter of a spring would be a little too gooey for me. With the 400, I've got enough platform to push against and pop off of, but the suspension is still super supple. Fitment is a non-issue—it's the same piggyback as the X2, right? Again, I can't speak to the DHX, but I'd be surprised if you ran into any issues fitting that.
 
#900 ·
cogswell23 said:
You're asking specifically about the DHX? Can't help you. I have a DHX2 on my Sentinel though, and I'm very happy with it. I run a slightly stiffer spring than what the calculators tell me to—I'm on a 400 per recommendation of Lars at Transition, while the online calculators suggest I should be on a 350 or 375 (I weigh ~150 lbs). I think any lighter of a spring would be a little too gooey for me. With the 400, I've got enough platform to push against and pop off of, but the suspension is still super supple. Fitment is a non-issue—it's the same piggyback as the X2, right? Again, I can't speak to the DHX, but I'd be surprised if you ran into any issues fitting that.
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The DHX is excellent on the Sentinel. I prefer the simpler tuning because it’s similar to the Float X. Can’t speak to spring rate, everybody is different. Use a calculator and then buy 2 different springs based upon your results if you can afford it - it’s nice to bracket a bit. I’m a taller guy so it’s pretty easy for me to go up or down by 50 lbs on spring rate.
 
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