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#2,582 ·
GnarBrahWyo said:
I am swapping my large Trance frame for a Med. I should have gotten a medium in the first place but glad I found someone looking for a large. If I were getting a gen 2 Trance I would definitely go medium.
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Ok that is weird. But let me answer your doubts about the right framesize with your own comments you made in this thread 3 months ago:

http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=1009234

GnarBrahWyo said:
Actually about 5'10 size large frame. Med frame felt way too cramped for me.
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GnarBrahWyo said:
With the large + 50 mm stem and wider bars I feel like I can handle gnarlier drops and ledges much easier.
Like I said I tend to have long arms and that may play a part in it.
I used to ride medium Specialized bikes and my back would cramp up from sitting too upright.
All said and done, I
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GnarBrahWyo said:
Yeah frame size actually feels really good.
According to Giant's sizing charts I am too short to be in a large. I tried to medium and felt too cramped on that.
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^^ I think you've drawn some good conclusions there!
 
#2,583 ·
Steel Calf said:
Ok that is weird. But let me answer your doubts about the right framesize with your own comments you made in this thread 3 months ago:

How's my bike fit? Video.- Mtbr.com

^^ I think you've drawn some good conclusions there!
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Yep, I was trying to convince myself Large was the way to go. I tested another medium with the seat pulled back a bit and 70 mm stem and it felt much better. My problem isnt so much with the cockpit dimensions but rather the long, long wheelbase and tall seat tube. Was a tough pill to swallow but I concede I didn't know what I was talking about then. Good to know if meant enough for you to swim through pages of this thread to find my quotes. Good find!

... another issue is the huge seat tube. I can't get very low with a 20 inch seattube plus a dropper collar. Ya live, ya learn.
 
#2,584 ·
GnarBrahWyo said:
I tested another medium with the seat pulled back a bit and 70 mm stem and it felt much better. My problem isnt so much with the cockpit dimensions but rather the long, long wheelbase and tall seat tube. Was a tough pill to swallow but I concede I didn't know what I was talking about then. Good to know if meant enough for you to swim through pages of this thread to find my quotes. Good find!

... another issue is the huge seat tube. I can't get very low with a 20 inch seattube plus a dropper collar. Ya live, ya learn.
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careful. Don't switch frame size yet without further testriding. I've similar body height and the medium felt quite good to me initially but I quickly changed that assessment after 1 hour on the trail.
And you don't wanna end up with a frame that forces you on a 70mm stem because the 50mm would make you feel cramped.

I actually watched your video and wouldn't recommend you going smaller but as you said some have to learn it the hard way.
 
#2,585 ·
As I mentioned before the geo of the Trance med is much closer to my old large Solo than the Trance Large is. Reach is pretty much identical, .1 inches different. Most people in my height range (5'9 to 5'10) are on a Med. The Trance is a long bike, the Medium is still longer than my Solo was and it was a large.
It sounds to me like you are more concerned with justifying your own choice in size than anything. Stoked you are happy on a large. I wasn't. I'll report back next week once it is all put back together.
 
#2,586 ·
GnarBrahWyo said:
As I mentioned before the geo of the Trance med is much closer to my old large Solo than the Trance Large is. Reach is pretty much identical, .1 inches different.
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Actually it's not. In order to compare effective reach you've to assume same stack height of 23.6" for all three bikes:

Solo L: 16.8"
Trance M: 16.33" (-0.47)
Trance L: 17.12" (-0.16)

So the Trance L frame is actually much closer to your old bike. Of course the wheelbase of the Trance is much longer but it's a slacker bike with longer chainstays, you cannot really shorten that part away by downsizing.

It appears to me that you're a dude with rather short legs and long torso/long arms, if that's the case the med frame will be too short while the Large frame wil have too much standover height so none of them fits you very well.

I'm not trying to argue with you but I know of people who got so concerned about sizing that they ended up changing framesize twice (large -> med -> large OR med -> large -> med) before eventually giving up and changing to a brand with a different sizing scheme.
 
#2,587 ·


Here's my Giant Trance Adv 1 2016 in large!

I love the bike, the geometry and suspension has an awesome feeling and coming from a hardtail it feels like I'm flying!

Only things I've changed:

Stem to 50mm renthal apex
Chainring to OneUP 32T Oval
Added OneUP bash chainguide for peace of mind
Hans Dampf front, Rock Razor back

To do:

I am getting a renthal carbon bar 780mm at some point. Might chop it down to 760. The stock 740 isnt bad for now.
Will also get some better carbon wheels at some point but I just cant justify changing them before the current ones die. They are stiff and comfortable anyway.
 
#2,590 ·
I'e had my 2016 Trance 2 for two weeks now so I thought I would give my thoughts on the the fit of the bike.
I am 5'10 on the dot with a 33in inseam. I went with the large and fit it with a 35mm straitline stem and so far I have been very stoked on how it feels. I love the feeling of the roomy top tube with the short stem. The bike feels very controlled and predictable on the descents and I have not had one problem with the front being twichy on long or short technical climbs. I would definitely recommend sizing up and shortening the stem if you are right in the middle of sizes like I am.
 
#2,591 · (Edited)
Was riding a trail this morning then headed back to my truck on the hardball, when my MRP 2x chain guide decided to fall off my bike,

Luckily it happened on the pavement an I found the cover cogs an one washer, I found a replacement parts kit online, expensive for what it is, does anyone have a diagram of how this thing is assembled, Thanks!
 
#2,594 ·
minimusprime said:
mongo just take that thing off. IIRC your bike has a shadow rear derailler and as such that is not required. Furthermore, if you are still running 2x you for sure do not need that chain guide/tensioner.
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Since it's all new technology to me would you mind explaining why I don't need it, seems strange they would put it on the bike if not needed as it's not exactly a cheap part. Thanks
 
#2,597 ·
Don't listen to the guy saying no need. Before I switched to 1x 10 that mrp chain guide saved me from dropped chains many times. Giant would not have one factory installed if it was not needed. In my opinion any 1x10 or 2x10 all mountain or enduro rid needs a chain guide period. Technical root and rock sections make the chain bounce no matter the chain length or clutch derailleur setup. Most pros run some time of guide or bash guard on the enduro circute

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#2,598 ·
syrous44 said:
Don't listen to the guy saying no need. Before I switched to 1x 10 that mrp chain guide saved me from dropped chains many times. Giant would not have one factory installed if it was not needed. In my opinion any 1x10 or 2x10 all mountain or enduro rid needs a chain guide period. Technical root and rock sections make the chain bounce no matter the chain length or clutch derailleur setup. Most pros run some time of guide or bash guard on the enduro circute

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Unless you have a narrow wide chainring on your 1x setup.

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#2,600 ·
syrous44 said:
Don't listen to the guy saying no need. Before I switched to 1x 10 that mrp chain guide saved me from dropped chains many times. Giant would not have one factory installed if it was not needed. In my opinion any 1x10 or 2x10 all mountain or enduro rid needs a chain guide period. Technical root and rock sections make the chain bounce no matter the chain length or clutch derailleur setup. Most pros run some time of guide or bash guard on the enduro circute

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I ride my trance 1x on every trail in socal and all of the resorts you can name on the western half of the US (including moab, sedona, etc). I have not once, dropped a chain. I also did not run that guide when I ran the bike with a 2x setup. I recently put on a 1-up upper chain guide because whynot and it doesn't provide pedaling resistance like that crappy oem one.

To each their own... but there is a reason that the endurobro pro's aren't running guides like this any more.

syrous44 said:
I ride with people with narrowwide and they still drop chains on the real narly stuff. It's not fool proof.

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i have not experienced this. That being said... i don't try and make narrow wide chainrings last for 600+ miles as if I lived in abject poverty. NW chain rings die at 200-300ish depending on your chain line and riding profile (climbs etc)

i go through about 3-4 a year between my bikes.
 
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