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#2,541 ·
dustyduke22 said:
Before you freak out, loosen the rear mount and tighten back up the front mount to make sure it's a problem. Iys like tightening up the lug nuts on your car, do each one gradually, not one all at once.
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Not sure I am following your logic here. Every frame I have owned has been aligned to within a mm or so with one end of the shock dangling. Savo's picture doesn't look right at all.
 
#2,543 ·
savo said:
I still haven't build up my Riot (it arrived yesterday at my door), but yes, shock mounts in my frame are badly misaligned. Actually all of the upper rear triangle is off centered.
I emailed the importer and the Bros about this issue, with pictures, let's see what they say.
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Wow that is not just a little out of whack :). Maybe check the bearings and make sure they are pressed in all the way on the side you are having issues with? I will be checking mine here soon, noticed some pull when I unmounted the shock to route the rear brake line.
 
#2,544 ·
DursRemote said:
I've had a couple rides on the riot so far, really enjoying it. The rear end is MUCH shorter than my previous bike, a niner WFO, and it makes it feel much better in cornering and drops.

I will say, I haven't been able to get the DB inline quite where I want it. I've had to increase air pressure to prevent bottoming, to the point I'm only at 15-20% sag. And it still seems to go through its travel quite fast for me. Should I increase HSC or LSC at this point? Also, when measuring sag, should I be neutral on the bike, or leaning a little back as if I'm doing a descent?
Thanks for any input. The bike is sweet.
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Same - I've got volume spacers coming on Friday, which I think will help.

The thing with the inline is that it's spring rate is more like an XV air canned DB Air, so it's fairly flat - way too flat, is my feeling. I'm going to add two big spacers friday afternoon and hopefully flog it over the weekend and report back.
 
#2,545 ·
AOK said:
Not sure I am following your logic here. Every frame I have owned has been aligned to within a mm or so with one end of the shock dangling. Savo's picture doesn't look right at all.
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Mine looked the exact same when I was routing my cables so I called up Sean and talked to him about it. He said that if you tighten the front or the back all the way before you tighten the other on it can get tweeked like the pic.

Not saying that the frame in question is not mis aligned, but just something to troubleshoot.
 
#2,546 ·
dustyduke22 said:
Mine looked the exact same when I was routing my cables so I called up Sean and talked to him about it. He said that if you tighten the front or the back all the way before you tighten the other on it can get tweeked like the pic.

Not saying that the frame in question is not mis aligned, but just something to troubleshoot.
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Same here, just not as extreme. I haven't bothered the Bros, but I played with mounting bolts and it took just a little wiggle to get the shock lined up and into the mounts. I don't expect any problems.
 
#2,547 ·
DursRemote said:
I've had a couple rides on the riot so far, really enjoying it. The rear end is MUCH shorter than my previous bike, a niner WFO, and it makes it feel much better in cornering and drops.

I will say, I haven't been able to get the DB inline quite where I want it. I've had to increase air pressure to prevent bottoming, to the point I'm only at 15-20% sag. And it still seems to go through its travel quite fast for me. Should I increase HSC or LSC at this point? Also, when measuring sag, should I be neutral on the bike, or leaning a little back as if I'm doing a descent?
Thanks for any input. The bike is sweet.
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When I had an inline on my Process 111, I ran 1 large volume spacer and it really improved the shock a ton. Ran about 30% sag and never fully bottomed once the spacer was installed. It was a great shock. That being said, I had 3 different InLines on the bike before I sold it. At least CaneCreek took care of me.
 
#2,548 ·
KillingtonVT said:
You could for sure! Chris and I were talking about creating a downloadable template for our riders that want to run a mud guard.
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Hey - a while back in the Riot thread you were talking about a template for a Riot mudguard.

I tried to make a 'fancy' one from commercial fork fender last night and I wasn't real happy with it, but I'd still like a fender. Lots of water crossings out here, that become sand and mud fests and I'm just watching stuff pile up in my linkage. My sweet, precious linkage.

Do you happen to have that template?
 
#2,549 ·
Glenngineer said:
Same here, just not as extreme. I haven't bothered the Bros, but I played with mounting bolts and it took just a little wiggle to get the shock lined up and into the mounts. I don't expect any problems.
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Ditto. Although I did bother the Bros about it :)

The design of the rear triangle with no upper brace allows some float at the shock mount. Long story short, they said it's within acceptable tolerances and if I run into any problems they'll take care of it and I have no reason to believe otherwise.

I haven't noticed any issues of increased rear shock stiction or binding. Once both ends of the shock are tightened down I think this is a non-issue.

Just ride the damn thing:)
 
#2,550 ·
dustyduke22 said:
When I had an inline on my Process 111, I ran 1 large volume spacer and it really improved the shock a ton. Ran about 30% sag and never fully bottomed once the spacer was installed. It was a great shock. That being said, I had 3 different InLines on the bike before I sold it. At least CaneCreek took care of me.
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Thats good to know - the Process 111 actually has an even flatter leverage curve than the Riot, which is itself fairly flat. If a spacer fixed the 111, it should fix the Riot...
 
#2,554 ·
So looking at the RWC hardware, we need the 35.56mm + the .5mm shims. Do we get 21.85mm or the 22.2mm for the other?? And will this work for the Woodie I'm probably ordering today? [emoji16]

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#2,556 ·
Well it helped a lot loosening both, and resetting it. It still needs a little nudge to go back in the mount, but nowhere near what it was. I was really having to put force on it to get it back in before. Thanks guys, so glad to have this place as a resource
 
#2,558 ·
Agree that the shock misalignment isn't a HUGE deal ... except when it comes to CC shocks. I suspect you'll find that it's going to lead to very early demise of those shocks, which seems super-sensitive to alignment. At least that's my experience.
 
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