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@ktaylor:
Damn, love your bike, especially the frame colors.

My XTC:
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Sram X0 2x10 gripshift
Spyder saddle
Zefiro Race Disc tubeless wheel set
Racing Ralph 2.1
Rotor 26T/40T
XT brakes

Around 10kg (22lbs)

To change:
Seatpost: KCNC ti pro lite
stem, handlebar
(Maybe carbon stem/handlebar combo)
 
How much can abuse can this carbon frame withstand? Anyone know? I own the xtc 29er 3 (2013) model. It's pretty much a trail bike now after a few upgrades I put on it. Waiting for Fox to send out the float 32 100mm CTD 2014 fork I ordered to my LBS. I wanted 120mm, but Giant said it'll void my warranty so I said forget it and ordered the 100mm.
 
It can't take trail bike abuse. It just isn't made for it.
You got to be joking right... A $1900 bike can't take a bit of abuse? I don't mean going on jumps 13 feet high. I hope you're joking. The frame is carbon so I don't see why it can't take some abuse. I saw Santa Cruze carbon test and it's outstanding. I'm sure it's the same sort of carbon put in this bike, just a different style of bike.
 
Also if this bike was designed for XC racing (Which mine is slowly becoming a trail bike). Don't they ride through rough terrain most of the time and going through a bit of rock gardens? It seems their bikes are in 1 piece.
 
Im sure it can take some abuse, but it is an XC race bike. XC hardtails are not meant for drops, they are meant to be light and fast. Im sure it can handle rock gardens and technical riding, but air time is not what an xc hardtail is for. If you wanted a trail bike, you should have gotten at least an anthem with a 120 mm fork or a hard tail designed around a 120 fork.
 
Im sure it can take some abuse, but it is an XC race bike. XC hardtails are not meant for drops, they are meant to be light and fast. Im sure it can handle rock gardens and technical riding, but air time is not what an xc hardtail is for. If you wanted a trail bike, you should have gotten at least an anthem with a 120 mm fork or a hard tail designed around a 120 fork.
Well that's perfect anyways, I'm never in the air anyhow. But in all honesty, if the bike can't handle a drop like getting off a sidewalk to the road without breaking... Then this bike is a fail in my books. But I'm sure that's not the case. I've seen this bike go through some abuse going downhill at the local trails I gone to and saw no issues. Again I would see an issue if the bike were to take a big jump where it's not designed for it. You can't baby the bike though. Yes it's an XC style bike, but isn't XC also known for trail riding as well...
 
Just got off the phone with Giant. He said the bike is capable of some abuse. He then went into detail stating that he even jumped a small set of stairs maybe 4-5 steps near the shop. He landed fine with no problem. What he said to me was of course you need to be experienced on how to land properly with good forks to absorb the landing. He did mention that he does not recommend it, but that's what he does and his bike hasn't snapped where the headtube is. Throughout the conversation I had with him, he mentions if my frame was carbon or aluminum. The moment I said I own the composite 3 model of the XTC 29er, his voice lit up and said "well then you're fine, carbon is way stronger than aluminum. If the frame where to reach it's limit and snap from a drop you'd notice instantly. Aluminum would take some time until when it breaks and impales you. We test our frames to make sure it takes a lot for the frame to break. As for carbon, again it's real strong more so stronger than aluminum. I weigh 210lbs, how much do you weigh? (I responded with 180lbs but summer I'll be 165lbs. He then goes oh you're fine!"

Anyhow, he did say going through rock gardens and lifting off sidewalks or small bumps where both wheels are few inches off the ground is fine. He even did mention he landed hard on his front wheel first going off a sidewalk and the frame didn't break. At the end of the conversation I said I was glad I don't have to 'baby the bike'. He goes nah from a rider myself, don't worry the bike can take some abuse, just remember it's a cross country trail bike. I responded with, don't worry all I do is ride at the Don Valley Trails, I'm sure there's no 'mountains' there to jump off haha.

Our conversation is more so a reference, but it's good to see someone who owns a XTC bike doesn't baby it.
 
I was thinking you were meaning more like 3-4 foot drops and whatnot. The bike should be fine for your intended use. Here in WV, most of our trails are filled with rock gardens and other technical features and many of the XC riders here ride carbon hardtails so you should be fine. XC and trail are about the same thing but now that there are one hundred different categories of cycling its hard to tell if someone means AM by riding trail or just regular every day XC riding.
 
I was thinking you were meaning more like 3-4 foot drops and whatnot. The bike should be fine for your intended use. Here in WV, most of our trails are filled with rock gardens and other technical features and many of the XC riders here ride carbon hardtails so you should be fine. XC and trail are about the same thing but now that there are one hundred different categories of cycling its hard to tell if someone means AM by riding trail or just regular every day XC riding.
No worries. Eventually I'll buy a AM style bike with more travel down the road when I become more experienced. For the time being all the trails I do ride is cross country style with very little drops. The highest I may of lifted my bike off the ground was a foot high I would assume. That was due to roots coming out of the ground during the trail ride. I landed the bike on both wheels and carried on wards. Very impressed with this bike. Can't wait for the float 32 100mm CTD (2014) I ordered from Fox to come in. It's replacing the Recon TK gold that came with the bike :)
 
Don't ask a question if you don't want the answer. You said trail bike abuse. Not, a bit of abuse. The answer is no. The XTC is a xc mountain bike. It can handle trails and obstacles just fine but not crossing over into the category of a trail bike.
 
Don't ask a question if you don't want the answer. You said trail bike abuse. Not, a bit of abuse. The answer is no. The XTC is a xc mountain bike. It can handle trails and obstacles just fine but not crossing over into the category of a trail bike.
Oh please. Just stop with all of these minute categories. It's XC not trail - wtf? Where do you think XC takes place? On trails of course.

XC racing:

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All hit at speeds faster than you could imagine.
 
Oh please. Just stop with all of these minute categories. It's XC not trail - wtf? Where do you think XC takes place? On trails of course.

XC racing:

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All hit at speeds faster than you could imagine.
You my dude are my hero! lollll
That second photo is insane! Wait did his 'xc hardtail' bike stay in 1 piece, or did it snap? Haha I'm kidding of course. These photos do ease up the stress of me choosing the xtc 29er composite 3. I invested a lot of money on it so far especially stripping most of the parts that came with it, to act as more of a 'trail' style bike. Was just worried I wasted my money on this bike, but after seeing those photos it's clear these bikes are able to be lifted off the floor more than an inch high lol. Just tired of hearing people sounding as you have to baby an XC bike... which you said yourself XC is trail basically, just not with anything more than 120mm travel to it. Clearly I'm not doing 5+ foot drops... besides I'm to scared shitless to do it anyways even if I did own a AM or Trail bike with 150mm travel.
 
You do realize that "trail" is a type of mountain bike. A bike which an XTC is not. I will stop trying to help you out here since it's obvious you're just going to shoot from the hip on this one. Keep in mind, I sell these bikes. I've seen what they can and can't handle.
 
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