Got my pennies saved for the 2018 White Argus Comp and It's nowhere to be purchased.
What's the deal with these new bikes?
What's the deal with these new bikes?
Where are the 2018 Mongoose Argus bikes at?
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Did you call Mongoose and what did they say? I would also complain about that scratched rim.
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You know I didn't complain about the scratched rim but I think I will bring that up. I have an open ticket with them or I just sent them pictures. We'll see what happens
Any update on this?
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A scratched rim? Is it really worth the headache to process a claim? Take a black Sharpie to it and go ride.
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I was curious; did you have a chance to weigh the argus comp?
I was curious; did you have a chance to weigh the argus comp?
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Mongoose offered me a Blue Fork from last year's model and say there is no ETA on when they can get a black one. they also said I can try and return it through Amazon but that is out of the question for me so I asked them for more options.
If the issue was the rim alone then yes I would *maybe* pass on getting them involved. But remember contacting them originated from the randomly stripped post mounts that happened on one of my first rides. There were even other nicks, dings and scratches (from shipping I assume.?)once I received the bike. so far I have only added the rim (largest issue of the shipping damages) to the stripped post mount ticket. We'll see.
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Not the OP but I can help! ?
Bike alone is 33lbs.
I base this value on weighing myself while holding the bike standing on a scale, then subtracting my weight from the total.
Anyone have any ideas how that compares to other fat bikes or other hardtail mountain bikes? I already forgot what my hardtail was..
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My aluminum frame, extra large, Salsa Mukluk is 32#, tubeless, with pedals. 33# sounds very good.
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Ok wow. The Argus is pretty comparable to other fatbikes then.
I'm not really sold on tubeless yet but not necessarily opposed either. I'm used to riding with two spares but I'm only riding with one spare currently because I can only fit one. The one I carry is heavy too.
Also note that I also ride with spare "tire rubber" (cut up pieces of inner tube), sandpaper and adhesive for for flat repair.
My question is what would I need with me to switch to tubeless? I get it, I would have 3 less tubes then currently but I figure I would still need repair Kit I currently use and maybe even more parts that go with a tubeless set up..?
What do you think?
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Tires have sealant. I carry a couple CO2s and a cell phone. 
I could carry a tube and put in trail side. One would have a hard time breaking a bead loose, patching a hole and reinflating tubeless on the trail. A 26 x 2.75" MTB tube will stretch and fit a 4" tire. They are much lighter. I have not tried it on a 5" tire.
Tire plugs are the other option.
I could carry a tube and put in trail side. One would have a hard time breaking a bead loose, patching a hole and reinflating tubeless on the trail. A 26 x 2.75" MTB tube will stretch and fit a 4" tire. They are much lighter. I have not tried it on a 5" tire.Tire plugs are the other option.
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rotational mass is where weight savings mean the most.
to go tubeless you need:
gorilla tape, a tubeless valve, sealant (home brew works great), and tubeless tires.
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Most tires can be run tubeless. Many find that Zip or Tyvek flashing tape works better than Gorilla tape. The biggest challenge is the rim. I am not familiar with the Xposure rims to know if they will hold tubeless at low pressures.
Did you have nicks, dings and scratches to the actual frame and fork right out of the box?
The blue Comp that I purchased last year had a real bad scratched fork and several dings to the frame itself.
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Sheeit, that's it? What kinda rides do you do with that?I carry a couple CO2s and a cell phone.
Heres my list ?
Frame bag contents: 2L water bladder, water bladder hose, water bladder hose insulator, 1 fat inner tube, 8 extra zip ties, 2 pair of socks (1 for cell phone, 1 for me), Neosporin, gauze, injury/hospital tape, chain lube, tire hand pump, locktight, inner tube pieces for flats, small scissors, rubber cement, sand paper, 3 folded paper towels, spare master link, spare chainring bolts, sun glasses, goggles (I wear one or the other)
Total frame bag weight - 9lbs
Seat bag contents: Allen wrench set, 15mm(?) pedal wrench, needle nose pliars, full can of aerosol bug spray, small cloth rag, master link breaker tool, full finger gloves, half finger gloves (I wear one or the other)
Total seat bag weight - 3lbs
Both bags total - 12lbs (yikes!)
So what do you do for rips? Walk it back?
You got a point but that still seems like quite the risk don't you think? These fat inner tubes blew my mind how big they are. Not to mention super heavy too (compared to standard or 26x2.5)
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Yup that's right! I believe it. I read similar stories about the Mongoose/Amazon bikes.. Doesn't make em bad bikes just means they need to invest more in packaging..
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is this just for day rides? That is almost as much as I take on 2-3 day bike packing trips. That seems to be a lot of extra poundage for the regular 2-3 hour daily trips, unless you are a trail steward, or are in training for bike packing...
not hatin' - just being curious
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Ya I'm a packrat when it comes to mountain biking but a minimalist for the rest of my life.
95% of my riding is trail riding. So on these trails I'm a minimum of 30 minutes from my truck by foot. Average 45 minutes and Max 2 hours from my truck on foot. Every 10 to 15 rides I will justify bringing all of those items except maybe the chainring bolts, wrench for the pedals, and chain breaker tool.
So My Philosophy (ridiculous as it may be) is that every two to three hour ride is precious. I'm riding to enjoy the outdoors, get the exercise and be comfortable while doing it. I'm not riding out there trying to rough it. I'm there to maximize my riding experience and enjoy every minute since time is not cheap and life is precious with the time we got.
To tie it together, let me define what I mean by comfort and enjoying the experience: minimalizing bug bite torture (bug spray), not having the sun Blair in my eyes while coasting down a steep hill (glasses), being well hydrated (2l water bladder), peace of mind if a thorn branch grazes my jugular unexpectedly at the bottom of a downhill *again* (first aid), quiet and frictionzLess peddling (chain lube), etc.*
Not being equipped to finish the ride and having to walk back to my truck even if 30 minutes would ruin the ride£. I put so much emphasis on a smooth, challenging, comfortable ride on a stable bike that I pack a bit more to ease my mind and reduce my chances of a bad ride.
I'm only picky about a few things and this is one of em ?
For Mesa3077s queries re tubeless tires
You will get away with a smaller tube, 2.6 or 2.75 etc. With tubeless you will only need one as you would only use it in the case of a big tear. You wont even notice all the small nail or thorn flats because of the sealant.
Even quite big holes can be repaired with a tire plug (it's only a small kit, you can even use 2 or 3 plugs to repair quite a big hole).
When I first started with tubeless, I had a big cut in my tire that went almost instantly flat, I took the wheel off, found the hole put it at the bottom and gave the wheel a good shake to slosh all the sealant into the cut. Pumped it up and rode about 3km before it aired down enough to need more air. gave it another good shake up, aired it up and was able to ride the remaining 7 km home. It actually didn't loose any more air, but I took it to my LBS and they put two plugs in it. I then started carrying plugs. The tire has done over 18 months with those plugs and it doesn't loose air. any more than the undamaged tire. On the outside of the tire the cut was nearly 15 to 20mm, but on the inside it was probably only about 3-4mm. It's pretty awesome what that sealant can do.
You could still carry your repair kit, its not a big size and gives you options. I don't bother, so far I have got by with plugs and/ or a spare tube
Unless you trail set up means you never get more than about 30 min walk from your car I would still carry the one smaller tube. You will also need tire levers. But loosing two tubes off your bike will get the weigh down to about 30lbs on this Argus. This will be the cheapest and most cost effective upgrade you can make to this bike.
Not to mention the improved ride quality associated with tubeless and the ability to run lower pressures for snow and sand, without the danger of pinch flats.
For a fatbike I would carry a pump rather than CO2 as its kinda one shot and the volume for a fully flat fat tire would mean multiple canisters. If its just to get you rolling again it doesn't have to be a huge pump, it just takes a little longer
You will get away with a smaller tube, 2.6 or 2.75 etc. With tubeless you will only need one as you would only use it in the case of a big tear. You wont even notice all the small nail or thorn flats because of the sealant.
Even quite big holes can be repaired with a tire plug (it's only a small kit, you can even use 2 or 3 plugs to repair quite a big hole).
When I first started with tubeless, I had a big cut in my tire that went almost instantly flat, I took the wheel off, found the hole put it at the bottom and gave the wheel a good shake to slosh all the sealant into the cut. Pumped it up and rode about 3km before it aired down enough to need more air. gave it another good shake up, aired it up and was able to ride the remaining 7 km home. It actually didn't loose any more air, but I took it to my LBS and they put two plugs in it. I then started carrying plugs. The tire has done over 18 months with those plugs and it doesn't loose air. any more than the undamaged tire. On the outside of the tire the cut was nearly 15 to 20mm, but on the inside it was probably only about 3-4mm. It's pretty awesome what that sealant can do.
You could still carry your repair kit, its not a big size and gives you options. I don't bother, so far I have got by with plugs and/ or a spare tube
Unless you trail set up means you never get more than about 30 min walk from your car I would still carry the one smaller tube. You will also need tire levers. But loosing two tubes off your bike will get the weigh down to about 30lbs on this Argus. This will be the cheapest and most cost effective upgrade you can make to this bike.
Not to mention the improved ride quality associated with tubeless and the ability to run lower pressures for snow and sand, without the danger of pinch flats.
For a fatbike I would carry a pump rather than CO2 as its kinda one shot and the volume for a fully flat fat tire would mean multiple canisters. If its just to get you rolling again it doesn't have to be a huge pump, it just takes a little longer
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Use 5" stretch wrap instead of Gorilla tape. Easier and lighter. If you have 80mm or less width rims, you don't need to overlap from side to side. A single pass 5 times centered works.
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