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I learned I don't actually like riding ebikes. My rise is decked out yet it is my least ridden bike. My DH bike sees more action than my ebike.

My local trails require a good amount of pedaling/climbing to even get to anything fun. The vast majority of people I see riding are on full power ebikes. I took my ebike a few times to see and it just wasn't fun. Turns out riding a modern xc bike on the same trails is way more fun and a better work out. I often find myself passing ebikers up the climbs as they are all pretty rocky/technical and technique is just as important as power output.
 
It's like going to Disneyland (Disneyland bikes)
Let the motor pull you to the top of the hill
Then let the 180mm of travel, sticky DH tires and DH geometry give you a ride back down
Little to no fitness or skills required
Woohoo I am mountain biking

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Everyone in that photo seems to be having fun.
 
It's like going to Disneyland (Disneyland bikes)
Let the motor pull you to the top of the hill
Then let the 180mm of travel, sticky DH tires and DH geometry give you a ride back down
Little to no fitness or skills required
Woohoo I am mountain biking

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Why can't you just not participate in ebike threads. You are clearly a hater with zero regard for what others want to ride. Your trolling is 2nd rate at best.
 
If you're young, raising a family and working, it would give you opportunities to get out and ride when you normally wouldn't have the time, I imagine.
Except if you're young and have a family you can't afford one
 
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It's like going to Disneyland (Disneyland bikes)
Let the motor pull you to the top of the hill
Then let the 180mm of travel, sticky DH tires and DH geometry give you a ride back down
Little to no fitness or skills required
Woohoo I am mountain biking

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Are you serious? What world do you live in that travel means no skills required?

I guess more so what green trails do you ride that make you think travel is a replacement for skill?
 
Primarily i've learnt who the douchebag e haters are on this site...... You see several of them in full flight in this thread.

As far as the bike is concerned. Full power, light weight as possible removable multiple battery options is the holy grail for me.

I went full fat full, heavy for my first E and it was too heavy, too much of a bus. But having multiple battery options i can reduce weight and increase grin factor without riding and over heavy pig around.

Oh yeah, if used appropriately an E can increase fitness.
Also you dont have to go all in and only E. Having the bike in your quiver over bikes lets you enjoy both.

Lastly FPH (fun per hour is a lot higher than MTB.
 
It's like going to Disneyland (Disneyland bikes)
Let the motor pull you to the top of the hill
Then let the 180mm of travel, sticky DH tires and DH geometry give you a ride back down
Woohoo I am mountain biking

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Is this supposed to be a burn?....
Because I do exactly that on my 180mm e bike....... woohoo. Great times.

Currently I'm second in NZDH in my age group and first in my province in my age group racing DH.
So.... Disneyland roller coaster E biking cross training is paying dividends,,,,
 
Currently I'm second in NZDH in my age group and first in my province in my age group racing DH.
Woah woah, we've already established that sticky tires, DH geometry, and anything 180mm of travel or more requires no skill. How are you beating the other sticky tired, slack geo, long travel kiwis and not finishing in exactly the same 1/100th second they are?!? Slightly more air pressure??? A skinsuit?!?
 
I learned I don't actually like riding ebikes. My rise is decked out yet it is my least ridden bike. My DH bike sees more action than my ebike.

My local trails require a good amount of pedaling/climbing to even get to anything fun. The vast majority of people I see riding are on full power ebikes. I took my ebike a few times to see and it just wasn't fun. Turns out riding a modern xc bike on the same trails is way more fun and a better work out. I often find myself passing ebikers up the climbs as they are all pretty rocky/technical and technique is just as important as power output.
That sounds fun. I don't have that many climbs near me that are fun and engaging for an ebike. I usually boost up a fire road to get to the trails which is pretty boring.

I try and stay off the single track climb trails because in general they aren't technical and passing people is annoying on them.

Technical climbing would be great.
 
Woah woah, we've already established that sticky tires, DH geometry, and anything 180mm of travel or more requires no skill. How are you beating the other sticky tired, slack geo, long travel kiwis and not finishing in exactly the same 1/100th second they are?!? Slightly more air pressure??? A skinsuit?!?
No visor / peak on his DH helmet.
 
Woah woah, we've already established that sticky tires, DH geometry, and anything 180mm of travel or more requires no skill. How are you beating the other sticky tired, slack geo, long travel kiwis and not finishing in exactly the same 1/100th second they are?!? Slightly more air pressure??? A skinsuit?!?
I guess slightly more no skill and lack of fitness. It's really hard applying brakes with my pudgy e bikers fingers. So I just, don't brake until I need to stop at the bottom to recieve my trophy for being lazy......

Hehe...


The other trick is be so old that most other dh racers are either dead or broken...
Usually several don't make it to start or the finish line in the old bastard division. So im one the few that could actually ride down the hill without breaking myself.....
 
That sounds fun. I don't have that many climbs near me that are fun and engaging for an ebike. I usually boost up a fire road to get to the trails which is pretty boring.

I try and stay off the single track climb trails because in general they aren't technical and passing people is annoying on them.

Technical climbing would be great.
Funny enough this last weekend I was about halfway up the climb and a dude on a brand new trek ebike comes up behind me. His bike was show room shiny and the tires were still glossy, it looked killer in all honesty. I let him pass in one of the few wider sections that also happens to be a rock garden. He took 2 cranks, passed me, then took a terrible line and ate it. I re-passed him while he was collecting himself and managed to fully drop him as the rest of the climb is more technical.
 
Blasphemy! He'd get kicked out of the DH club for sure.
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I can confirm dh peak intact....

Oh shjt, I also just realized more blasphemy on my behalf.

Im also second in the province in enduro, e bike open division. Got dammit some whippet half my age beat me.....

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Pedal strikes can wreck motors, since the shock gets transferred through the motor internals. Same goes for crank and chainring strikes.

Yet another valuable benefit for short cranks to overshadow the age-old practice of getting cranks as long as possible that can fit comfortably.
 
(One thing I have learned that is) I find E-bikes to be particularly interesting in how they are really spurring a "super-bloom" of new innovations in bicycles and in bicycle culture overall.

The rate of increase in available power in an ever shrinking package makes it just a matter of time before e-bikes compare favorably against ICE bikes. It is inevitable and approaching rapidly.
How that impacts the quality of trail usage, the quantity of trail usage, and how those factors feedback in trail design has implications for all of us.

Will trails get longer/steeper/more remote to match the augmented range of neo-mtbrs?
Will e-bikes just take over the moto trails and abandon mtb trails to the h&h (hikers and horsies) set??
Or will more trail armoring, erosion mitigation and maintenance on current mtb/MUP be required if each user is suddenly capable of "2-3x more laps" and at "is faster"?
When will we get e-shovels?


E-bikse are driving evolution in other directions too. On the road, for instance, the the types of powered bikes is outpaced only by their raw numbers. But only just.
Are short-travel, fat tire 29er hardtails the mopeds of future? Or step-though dual sus rigs on 20"wheels? A trike? Uni? Something else?
As power/speed increases, how will they integrate with traffic/traffic laws given the current Great Bicycle-Motor Vehicle Divide? How will the 'city trails' and by extension the cities themselves, adapt?
Whatever it is, it's coming.


We are undergoing a personal transportation revolution, and one way or the other, you are part of it!
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