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Why would someone brag about a climb on an e-bike? Or maxing out their heartrate on an e-bike? Just don't get it.
why would someone brag about doing anything on a bike unless it is a rigid SS? If you need suspension to ride tech or gears to climb hills, are you even a rider???? If you are pinning your HR, it doesn't matter what you are on, that means you are still working your a$$ off...

Everyone I know who rides eMTBs also rides geared bikes, and 1/2 of us also ride SS hardtails. We still brag about some of our eMTB runs, as riding is riding...
 
...that there are too many who enjoy confrontation with those they dont like or understand. Those who would rather be disadvantageous to those they dont understand or like do it with joy in their heart. To be helpful to others is not in their personality..they enjoy telling others how to live their lives as if they know better. They tend to be easily annoyed and enjoy taking any fun out of life...as evident with many posts about ebikes that are hateful. Was talking to a neighbor when I was showing mine and he started complaining about the poor who use them in the cities without paying anything for a license and insurance...would rather see them get arrested for no license or insurance..but had nothing to say to me about mine...humans suck..
 
It's like the rdnck Jeep guys who think if you don't drive a manual transmission 100% of the time, you have too much estrogen. Same thing.
 
What I learned from owning an ebike and trying to engage in discussion about them is that no one likes purists except other purists who share the same opinions.

To non-purists, purists are haters, simple-minded, toxic, trolls, insecure about their masculinity, and what else?

Even if I tried, I can't think of a single thing to defend purists, even on other topics, besides that I used to have a similar mindset until I learned that it was stupid.
 
"purist"
What is next?
Ten pedal strokes with a 50 watt effort will propel you for 2 minutes? Maybe call it super boost overrun mode?

Riders with Fazua Ride 60-equipped e-mountain bikes will now get the KickOverrun upgrade, an automatic boost to help on technical ascents
The new KickOverrun tech - that will be installed via a firmware update - works automatically, detecting technical riding sections where you may need the assistance
 
"purist"
What is next?
Ten pedal strokes with a 50 watt effort will propel you for 2 minutes? Maybe call it super boost overrun mode?

Riders with Fazua Ride 60-equipped e-mountain bikes will now get the KickOverrun upgrade, an automatic boost to help on technical ascents
The new KickOverrun tech - that will be installed via a firmware update - works automatically, detecting technical riding sections where you may need the assistance
I did that update today and it basically turned my Relay into a YZ250…




Dork.
 
I did that update today and it basically turned my Relay into a YZ250…




Dork.
Won't be long and you can pop your virtual reality headset and suit on on, and you won't even have to leave the comfort of your living room.
 
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Sick burn dude.
What's this "burn" you speak of? I've nothing at all against 2 wheeled conveyances with engines. I'm really really fond of my collection of motorcycles let me give you the tip. I just don't happen to be of the opinion that I have some sort of God given right to take my dirt bikes to the local BMX or MTB tracks, and start mixing it up with the human powered variety. And before anyone starts, none of my motorcycles will ride themselves. I have to put in the effort dammit. Pop the key in, furiously kick that b@$t@rd into life, and let me give you the tip, wrestling a 110 kg dirty bike around a sufficiently gnarly track can leave you totally trashed in minutes, if you go at it hard enough.
 
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What's this "burn" you speak of? I've nothing at all against 2 wheeled conveyances with engines. I'm really really fond of my collection of motorcycles let me give you the tip. I just don't happen to be of the opinion that I have some sort of God given right to take my dirt bikes to the local BMX or MTB tracks, and start mixing it up with the human powered variety. And before anyone starts, none of my motorcycles will ride themselves. I have to put in the effort dammit. Pop the key in, furiously kick that b@$t@rd into life, and let me give you the tip, wrestling a 110 kg dirty bike around a sufficiently gnarly track can leave you totally trashed in minutes, if you go at it hard enough.
Oh.
 
I'd be interested in your impressions of this upgrade. I'm about to do the download myself.
I've been riding the regular bike lately but I'll get some more time on the e-bike soon and can report in better detail. Stay tuned.

In the meantime, in case you didn't see it, starting on page 51 at post #1015 some guys have done the update and have gotten some time on it:

 
I've been riding the regular bike lately but I'll get some more time on the e-bike soon and can report in better detail. Stay tuned.

In the meantime, in case you didn't see it, starting on page 51 at post #1015 some guys have done the update and have gotten some time on it:

Thanks, I run almost exclusively in Green (Breeze) so I'll stay tuned for more info.
I really like their app, but it would be nice if they could add in elevation gain.
 
I did that update today and it basically turned my Relay into a YZ250…




Dork.
Won't be long and you can pop your virtual reality headset and suit on on, and you won't even have to leave the comfort of your living room.
You’ve been able to that for several years. Of all of the things said as insults here, this type of implied fear/arrogance/superiority comment is the pinnacle of smugness. Bravo. You’re tied at the top of the leaderboard with a bunch of others. Maybe you can take the top spot on your own with adding even a tiny bit of originally. Good luck.

Couple of notes: Using Buy n Large, BnL or any other WALL-E reference won’t do it. Neither will moped, motorcycle or any other similar term. I’d suggest actually trying an e-MTB so that you can find something that rings true if you want to get there. You got this. The motorcycle post was a decent effort so I’m excited to see what you could do by stating anything backed by real experience.
 
Even if I tried, I can't think of a single thing to defend purists, even on other topics, besides that I used to have a similar mindset until I learned that it was stupid.
I can't read the anti-e arguments on here without thinking about how utterly stupid I must have sounded railing against disc brakes and rear suspension back in the day. But with age comes wisdom, for some of us anyway.

Won't be long and you can pop your virtual reality headset and suit on on, and you won't even have to leave the comfort of your living room.
I'm pretty sure you can do that now, if VR and sitting on the couch is your thing. I think most of us here would rather ride bikes though.
 
You’ve been able to that for several years. Of all of the things said as insults here, this type of implied fear/arrogance/superiority comment is the pinnacle of smugness. Bravo. You’re tied at the top of the leaderboard with a bunch of others. Maybe you can take the top spot on your own with adding even a tiny bit of originally. Good luck.

Couple of notes: Using Buy n Large, BnL or any other WALL-E reference won’t do it. Neither will moped, motorcycle or any other similar term. I’d suggest actually trying an e-MTB so that you can find something that rings true if you want to get there. You got this. The motorcycle post was a decent effort so I’m excited to see what you could do by stating anything backed by real experience.
Yeah man, this is the bold frontier of the interwebs - where highly emotional/irrational/subjective rants based on logical fallacies reign supreme. The unremitting motorcycle/moped analogies are the epitome of the false equivalence fallacy - where two subjects are incorrectly compared as if they are equal, despite significant differences between them. Of course, trying to reason with the ignorant is like pissing into the wind . . . in the end, you only piss on yourself.
 
I’d suggest actually trying an e-MTB so that you can find something that rings true if you want to get there. You got this. The motorcycle post was a decent effort so I’m excited to see what you could do by stating anything backed by real experience
I have. Both the local bike shop here had had ride test days, and one of the bike brands themselves had a traveling demo fleet you could try out various models at one of the bike parks here. So I did.
I've also got relatives and friends who ride Ebikes, and are always telling me to get one, or take it for a ride.
As I've written multiple times, I've got nothing against them. At all. They're just not for me. Yet. Once I'm sufficiently incapacitated things will likely change I'm sure.
 
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I'm pretty sure you can do that now, if VR and sitting on the couch is your thing. I think most of us here would rather ride bikes though.
Dunno. I did a VR ride the other day on the trainer. Well not quite VR, no headset but I had a screen. Turns out having a mountainbike with low gearing wasn't ideal. I had to coast down the hills which seemed a bit pointless 🤣
 
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