[ThatWillHealUpJustFine]

Obviously, e-bikes are crutches. But how do many with full-time jobs & kids ride without a crutch?

What I've learned, on the internet, is that e-bikers can do no wrong. They push so hard on their e-bike that I wonder why pro roadies don't train on them. They could travel so much farther while getting the same training. I've also learned officials who restrict trails are simply idiots. E-bikers are so great, they should be able to ride anywhere. To hell with hiking only trails, e-bikes rule.

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[Horseshoe]

And more fun is funner.
More funner because its more easier.

Where does it end?
Most easiest is funnerest?

Hopefully it doesn't end. Life's too short to spend it not having fun!

 

[drew502]

I've learned that E.B.D.S (E-Bike Derangement Syndrome) is for real. LMAO!

 

[CyNil_Rider]

Because climbs are more fun and "you and your helper-motor" get to clear a lot more steep tech stuff

Fixed it for you, so ok, I guess.

Because if I had a nickel for every time I stalled out/dabbed/failed a tech climb section because I ran out of gas, I could buy e-bikes for everybod---
Oh nvm.

 

[plummet]

There's a balance. You would think that the formula is more funner because DH laps, so logically, mostest DH laps should be funnerest. But! It's just like regular pedal bikes- the mostest DH laps is not suited to the funnerest on said DH laps due to being minmaxed for going up the easiest/fastest for the mostest DH laps, and so it is no longer the funnerestiest. Therefore we need a perfect balance of not the mostest, but still the funnerestiest, and that's why the ebike forum was created- to discuss the nuances of funnerestism, and the tools that we use to practice it.

Ok course there are levels of fun to get to the top of a hill.

The E bike doesnt win the funnest way to the top....

 

[Nat]

Man this looks like it was fun. “Up is the new down.”

 

[jimbones]

There is no perfect bike. EVERYTHING is a tradeoff. It depends what you value. Fat Bike, gravel, FS, HT, ebike, DH, singlespeed etc. I dont hate anyone for what they ride. Its more important to get out and ride than to sit yer ass on the couch eating potato chips

 

[Tickle]

Big rides without the suffering is way more fun than big rides with the suffering

 

[_CJ]

Big rides without the suffering is way more fun than big rides with the suffering

There's still suffering....


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[Tickle]

Grinding up a 1000ft climb at 8-9K is a lot easier tho on the E, I can actually think clearly and not feel like I'm gonna pass out

 

[drew502]

There is no perfect bike. EVERYTHING is a tradeoff. It depends what you value. Fat Bike, gravel, FS, HT, ebike, DH, singlespeed etc. I dont hate anyone for what they ride. Its more important to get out and ride than to sit yer ass on the couch eating potato chips

Now listen here Mister, this is the interwebs . . . this is no place for calm, reasoned, benevolent opinions.

 

[twowheelmotion]

There is no perfect bike. EVERYTHING is a tradeoff.

Yes there is. No it's not.

 

[jimbones]

There's still suffering....

true you can ride as hard or as easy as you want.

 

[plummet]

Big rides without the suffering is way more fun than big rides with the suffering

Get to a certain level of fitness and its not suffering anymore. Just different levels of intensity. It takes me many many hours to get to a position of suffering.

The E has less burst of intensity but generally more consistant effort than mtb which is more high intensive with a bit of rest thrown in.

 

[_CJ]

true you can ride as hard or as easy as you want.

I've found the E allows me to ride things I otherwise couldn't or wouldn't want to. Still right at the limit of what I'm willing to tolerate/endure, even in boost mode.


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[plummet]

Man this looks like it was fun. “Up is the new down.”

I'm surprised more E hill climb events haven't popped up. An E mtb equivalent of the below. it just gets steeper and sillier and more tech and less ridable. How far can you make it up the slope?

 

[Flyer]

Big rides without the suffering is way more fun than big rides with the suffering

That right there, may be the best thing about them!

 

[bdamschen]

Get to a certain level of fitness and its not suffering anymore. Just different levels of intensity.

and yet...

 

[bdamschen]

An E mtb equivalent of the below.

We already have hillclimb mountain bike geometry. Just need to strap a motor to one:

 

[plummet]

and yet...

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He's forgotten what its like to be unfit. There's definitely a threshold of fitness for me where below that steep and difficult up is painful and unenjoyable and draining, getting to the top of the hill and im spent (im talking 1000 ft + climbs). Above the threshhold I can push and hard without too getting drained and blowing up (for a long period of time, maybe 4500tf of climbing or hike a bike). I get to the top of the top of the hill and feel fine. The next level of fitness is enjoying the burn and pushing even harder to feel more burn. That level of fitness requires, for me at least, 12+ hours per week of riding. So i'm generally hovering in the mid tear of fitness. IE i can take the burn without withering, but not pushing harder for just to feel the fun of more burn.