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Vorsprung shock

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#1 ·
Seen on Facebook yesterday, the Proto V48 shock:

"Proto V48 getting some trail time under our engineer Dan, who might not actually be an engineer because he never starts sentences with "As an engineer....".
Standard eyelet and trunnion mount on the same reservoir bridge for testing. This is one part that will change significantly for production, to remove the redundant mounts, save weight, improve clearance and make it more aesthetically pleasing.
We haven't gone that route yet because the machining setup required is significantly more complicated and not something we want to have to revise while we're still testing function and locking down the damping geometry & configurations. This fairly blocky layout lets us make revisions much more easily for the sake of testing, but the production unit will not look anything like this.
Meanwhile, the stuff we can't show you is"


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#2 ·
Also, "...we were originally aiming for one BILLION dollars but that doesn't even buy you one unprofitable tech company anymore so the new target price is one... TRILLION... dollars...
In all seriousness, it'll be expensive compared to mass produced units because we are working to create the best performing suspension rather than the cheapest."

:ROFLMAO:
 
#4 · (Edited)
My issue with expensive shocks is they usually don't transfer from frame to frame, so a lot of that investment is lost.

I don't mind putting money into a fork to make it as good as possible, because it can move from frame to frame.

Now, if Vorsprung allowed me to convert between trunnion and eyelet, and between different sizes for a nominal amount of money, that would definitely be worth the money. The Push ElevenSix was originally promised to do that, but the ability never materialized.
 
#7 ·
My issue with expensive shocks is they usually don't transfer from frame to frame, so a lot of that investment is lost.

I don't mind putting money into a fork to make it as good as possible, but it can move from frame to frame.

Now, if Vorsprung allowed me to convert between trunnion and eyelet, and between different sizes for a nominal amount of money, that would definitely be worth the money. The Push ElevenSix was originally promised to do that, but the ability never materialized.
210x55 EXT has moved across three bikes.
 
#36 ·
Good points and do appreciate what you’re doing. The s tune does sound interesting. I’m guessing that’s the progressive compression curve you reference, so it must have next to no low speed compression and still resist bottoming. I’m guessing this would be done through port size restrictions. I do try to consciously choose what companies I buy from when I can with considerations on where it’s made, what the company structure is (like a co op) and lately environmental (something that seems lacking in the bike industry compared to the ski/snowboard which is using a lot more environmentally friendly or recycled materials etc). It was nice to see Steve uses (or did not sure if still does) WPL fluids for some of the stuff they’ve been doing admittedly I still use the Fox 5wt Teflon fluid which is probably the worst possible so maybe I’ll switch once I run out.
 
#44 ·
Seen on Facebook yesterday, the Proto V48 shock:

"Proto V48 getting some trail time under our engineer Dan, who might not actually be an engineer because he never starts sentences with "As an engineer....".
Standard eyelet and trunnion mount on the same reservoir bridge for testing. This is one part that will change significantly for production, to remove the redundant mounts, save weight, improve clearance and make it more aesthetically pleasing.
We haven't gone that route yet because the machining setup required is significantly more complicated and not something we want to have to revise while we're still testing function and locking down the damping geometry & configurations. This fairly blocky layout lets us make revisions much more easily for the sake of testing, but the production unit will not look anything like this.
Meanwhile, the stuff we can't show you is"


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HI MAN . CAN YOU TELL ME WHO IS THE MANUFACTURER COMPANY BRAND THAT DID BUILD THIS REAR COIL SHOCK ? I KNOW THE LOWER COMPONENT IS MADE BY THE Vorsprung COMPANY . WHAT BRAND MANUFACTURER FOR THE ABSOLUTE TOTAL REAR COIL SHOCK IN THIS PHOTO ?
 
#65 ·
Interesting that the shock can be revalved without removing it from the bike or having to rebleed the damper. I'm curious to learn how that works along with all the other technical details. Based on all the other Vorsprung products I've used over the years, I'm sure this shock is going to be squared away. I really have no need for a new shock but I really want one.
 
#72 ·
I think the bleed ports may be a clue that it's meant to be user servicable.

I mean, there are shocks that are technically user serviceable, if you have single-use needle adapters, vacuum bleeders, crazy imperial bleed fittings, special tools, etc...and then there are shocks that are meant to be user serviceable. The RS SD with bleed ports on both ends was a revelation to me, as far as ease of servicing, not even close to anything else I've worked on. I like all the DVO hype about this and then you go and see all the steps and bladder BS and it's like, "are you kidding me?". Sure, I can do it, but it's usually a far cry from simple for 99% of home-mechanics.

So if this has some features to make it really easy...that's a huge plus IMO.