Just a futurist bar end is all. They may help out with fatigue but climbing leverage I'm not seeing it.

 

Seems viable to me. I use the thumb over grip position to avoid fatigue but always feel a bit vulnerable when doing it because of the chance of a hand coming off the grip if I hit an unexpected bump, the togs would add security when riding thumbs up.

 

Exactly.
I made the first comment on the review page.

I do not agree with "climbing leverage" at all. I frequently put my thumbs on the top of the bars, and I am always very concerned about slipping off the top of the bars from a bump. The TOGS give you a serious security and ability to NOT slide off the top.

That's it, but I love mine. My fat bike has them, my Scarp has them, and my Remedy has them as well.

 

I bought my gf a pair last year, and she really likes them. I started to notice that when just cruising... she'll move her hands in towards the brake lever. I guess the hook will give you some more leverage when your hands are that far in on the bar.

 

It's an interest in getting one this. I bought a couple of pairs earlier in the year, I've been running one pair on my Habit and another on my Waltworks. They help me control the bike on steep climbs and they give me options for hand position too so they're cool. However, I'm currently going through a phase where I'm trying to simplying my rides, trying to wean myself off Strava by removing cadence and speed sensors as th first step, so I've taken my Togs off both bikes to see how I get on, if I miss them then I'll refit them, but we shall see...

 

I think simplifying things is a good idea. The last thing any rider needs is a cadence and speed sensor. Every rider has their own ideal unique to them .

 

You can't just put your thumbs in the same position without the TOGS? Not being sarcastic, but I've been doing this for 20 years without them.

 

Well with the mind state of bike industry and mental capacity of average bike rider... no you are not able to do this without this so cool product. It's must have (and yes I am sarcastic). For anyone else, with IQ on level or above level of gold fish, we can hold our handlebars with thumbs over grip even without this so cool new product :lol:

 

Yeah me too but I thought I'd give them a go and I liked them, but that's the exact same question I'm asking myself at the moment.


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I saw the video last night and decided to give them a try. I will see what they are like in a few days.

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I have been using a pair for about a year and a half.

I tend to use them most on long gravel climbs. Stuff where I put my thumbs on top of my bars, anyway.

The TOGS actually DO give me more control of the bike than without. It's not the same level of control as gripping under the bars. They're not for tech terrain. But I like them on long gravel climbs. A fair number of rides I do will have some sort of gravel segment to connect bits of singletrack. Sometimes I'll use them on flat sections of nontechnical trail when I'm sitting up to rest, also. Same deal regarding control.

 

Can you elaborate? My rides almost always start with a long gravel climb.

 

Just ordered a pair.

Best invention since the Awesome Strap.

 

Just ordered a pair.

Best invention since the Awesome Strap.

I just replaced my Awesome Strap with a Seat Roll Premio. It is a far superior product.

https://silca.cc/collections/packs/products/57c424fc56d9341100298881?variant=25057215816

 

While I doubt that I would buy a pair of these, I can definitely grasp the purpose and benefit of these.

 

How much do they really help? Hands don't change position and grip/leverage is not the issue on the gravel. Usually my legs and how much I'm willing to tax them on a funless climb.

 

I can see a place for these. Even with Ergon grips I occasionally use the thumbless grip and essentially just lay my palms on the grips with fingers over the levers. A little hook for my thumb would allow for a bit more security in an unexpected bump, and something to push against to steer.

Because I feel like my hands could get bounced off , I've gotten used to resting my palms on the Ergon paddles with my fingers over the bar ends when I want to relax my hands, but I almost wonder if these and some ESIs would be just as good, lighter, and not prone to the bar ends hanging up in the vegetation at the edge of the trail.

 

That's the combo I'm planning to try, ESIs with the TOGs. Should know by mid week how it will work.

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Get your TOGS on.

Let's see:

Benefits:

1] A rest for your thumbs = less fatigue.
2] Possible better climbing position.
3] Just bad ass looking [custom colors] almost new geometry cool.
4] Pretty cheap.
5] Great name.

Negatives:

1] A HUGE weight penalty.
2] Some may think they look dorky.

The winner is:

 

What am I doing wrong? My thumbs never get fatigued.

 

In 29 years of mtb I have had every kind of crash I can imagine except for my hands coming off the grips. Of all my body parts that get tired out by riding, my thumbs are way down on the list. On the old "Ride Guide" tv show (yes, Canada used to have a weekly MTB tv show) up here in Canada they used to have a riding tips segment. A pro, whose name eludes me recommended thumbs over the grips for a better climbing position, and I found that it worked. Props to TOGS for making some money of of this

 

:church:

Hands never slip off the top of bars on long grinder climbs...

Wonder if my mate who rides a Scott Spark would be interested in them? [emoji12]

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It's just another position option just like Bar Ends were.

These are the Bar Ends [in's] of today.

 

I have them. I posted a pic of them in the "show your cockpit" thread or whatever it was called. I use them with ESI Chunkys. I can attest that they work as described above. Great for leverage while climbing, and changing hand positions when my hands get fatigued. I even occasionally use them riding single track where they offer me reasonably confident control, even in mild roots and rock. I have the "carbon" ones that hinge open (which has proven to be VERY beneficial). They look absolutely fine and are not the slightest bit intrusive. I actually like the look. My minimalist cockpit is not compromised in the slightest. As a side bonus, they hold my ESIs in place. Previously they always migrated inwards on my bar. I really like them but I am not suggesting everyone necessarily will. That said, no downsides which I have observed.

 

those seem nice, somebody please buy me a set.

 

I guess the best way to look at it is that they're not doing any harm and giving riders another option. I don't use bar ends on my full-sus, They'd be in the way and I go over the bars too often, but these tog things might actually be nice.

 

I agree with them

I ride thumb on top a bunch of times, but once in a blue moon I have bounced or made some mistake or my hands are tired, and my hand slid off the bars

togs would just allow me to catch myself when I am riding hand on top like that

so, yeah it makes sense

 

after a 5 hour death march in freezing rain and bonked my hands don't follow instructions

I can see togs filling a gap if you do endurance events and often get completely wrecked

this will let you relax the hands more 'mindlessly'

 

I suppose I should add that I would not have looked at these had I not been experiencing some pretty intense hand fatigue/pain over the past 2 seasons (much less this season, which is obviously good). These work for me in terms of reducing/eliminating my intra-ride pain, while maintaining control in a variety of terrain. As I mentioned, I also find them helpful for "leveraging" on steep techy climbs. Finally, I like that they keep my ESIs at the outermost edges of my bar (I know - they shouldn't migrate inwards if installed properly, but trust me - they do on my bike).

A couple of other points...

These came beautifully boxed. I intend to order some more soon as they will make nice little Christmas gifts for some of my biking buddies (who may or may not like them as much as me - whatever - I'll throw in a bottle of some funky IPA beer and all will be good).

As far as being unnecessary clutter, my bike is pretty minimal. I spent a lot building it. There was a fair amount of gram counting involved (without being ridiculous). Everything from no lock-on grips, to use of a Matchmaker was incorporated. The last thing I want to do is strap on anything unnecessary. I would not go without these now. They are essential components for any go-to mountain bike of mine. But like I said, what's good for me may not be good for you. If your hands do not tire or become painful during a ride, you may not see the benefit I do.

 

I suppose I should add that I would not have looked at these had I not been experiencing some pretty intense hand fatigue/pain over the past 2 seasons (much less this season, which is obviously good). These work for me in terms of reducing/eliminating my inter-ride pain, while maintaining control in a variety of terrain. As I mentioned, I also find them helpful for "leveraging" on steep techy climbs. Finally, I like that they keep my ESIs at the outermost edges of my bar (I know - they shouldn't migrate inwards if installed properly, but trust me - they do on my bike).

A couple of other points...

These came beautifully boxed. I intend to order some more soon as they will make nice little Christmas gifts for some of my biking buddies (who may or may not like them as much as me - whatever - I'll throw in a bottle of some funky IPA beer and all will be good).

As far as being unnecessary clutter, my bike is pretty minimal. I spent a lot building it. There was a fair amount of gram counting involved (without being ridiculous). Everything from no lock-on grips, to use of a Matchmaker was incorporated. The last thing I want to do is strap on anything unnecessary. I would not go without these now. They are essential components for any go-to mountain bike of mine. But like I said, what's good for me may not be good for you. If your hands do not tire or become painful during a ride, you may not see the benefit I do.

Are you some how connected to this company? If not, they should hire you to do their guerrilla marketing campaign.

 

To each their own, definitely less dorky looking than bar ends. If you want more climbing leverage, get wider bars. I can see how putting your thumb over the bar can allow you to relive arm pump on long rides while still giving you some contact point to the bar.

 

...If you want more climbing leverage, get wider bars...

It's a different kind of leverage. They were on my 800mm 20mm rise SixCs last season. This season they are on my 750mm 30mm rise SixC's. They perform as promised on both. Can't get too much wider than 800.

 

So we agree then that TOGS are so up and coming and significant that we may as well just add them in early before they make the history books.

http://forums.mtbr.com/general-discussion/14-ideas-changed-mountain-biking-1022521.html

 

Hahaha. Yeah - sorry for my unbridled enthusiasm.

I like biking and I dislike pain. These hit both objectives. I generally like anything/anyone who can relieve me of pain.

But yeah - point taken. I was a little over the top in my posts. They DO work for me though.

 

The name makes me want to go swimming ^^

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And if you're feeling concerned about upsetting the bikes balance you can purchase the Ti upgrade 😂😂