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Tech: Deep dive on 1x10 narrow/wide conversion gearing

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I recently wrote reviews of the e*thirteen Extended Cog and GuideRing M after converting my own bike to a 1Ă—10. I had great things to say, and have received some requests to further discuss 1Ă—10 gear ratios, including extended cog range setups. I thought it would be useful to compare some stock setups with the 1Ă—10 extended range possibilities. Comparing the gear ratios and the cost differences should help you make an informed decision about where to spend your money.

This recent survey on Mtbr shows the popularity of 1x10 Narrow/Wide conversion drivetrains.

This recent survey on Mtbr shows the popularity of 1x10 narrow/wide conversion drivetrains (click to enlarge).​

The growing popularity of extended cogs is a result of 11-speed 1x drivetrains by SRAM and Shimano. There are mechanical and weight advantages to ditching the front derailleur in favor of a wider range cassette that can do the job of a double or triple chainring system. The manufacturers have decided however that these wide range cassettes should come with a hefty price tag and the requirement for a new shifter, derailleur, and potentially a new freehub body or hub. E*thirteen, Hope, and others all have extended cogs that increase the range of your current 10-speed system by adding a 40 or 42-tooth cog to the freehub body; making room by removing the 15T or 17T cog on the existing cassette.

Ratios

The following graphical representation shows a comparison of gearing between four setups. The X-Axis is arbitrary and represents the number of gears available. A 3x system has 30 gears to choose from, however most of them overlap and are redundant. The Y-Axis shows the number of centimeters of forward movement per crank revolution. Rolling centimeters are calculated by multiplying the circumference of a 29-inch tire by the gain ratios of the gearing.

Gearing Chart

The jumps in rolling distance observed in the 3x (blue plot) and 2x (red plot) show the change from one chainring to the next. While 3x does offer a slightly better range of gearing, the amount of redundancy in gear ratios is extreme. Comparing the 24T ring of the triple to the 32T ring, you can see that the first 8 high gears overlap in rolling distance to gearing in the 24T ring. Only the last two shifts offer a new ratio. The same is true of the 42T ring. Of the 30 gearing choices on a triple 10-speed setup, only 14 combinations offer unique gearing, the rest are redundant. The same is true of a double but to a lesser degree. Of the 20 gearing combinations on a double, 14 are unique ratios. Doubles offer an almost identical range of a triple with one less ring.

The typical 1Ă—10 conversion drivetrain involves removing the 15 or 17 tooth cog and adding in the 42 tooth after the 36. The front chainrings and derailleur are removed in favor a 32 tooth Narrow/Wide front chainring.

The typical 1Ă—10 conversion drivetrain involves removing the 15 or 17 tooth cog and adding in the 42 tooth after the 36. The front chainrings and derailleur are removed in favor a 32t narrow/wide front chainring.​

The major concern for most people when moving to a 1x system is that they will be losing gears, making it harder to climb. I set up the gearing in the chart so that all combinations would have approximately the same gearing for climbing. All setups have roughly 150 centimeters of forward movement per pedal stroke in the lowest gear. So let's set that concern aside, it will be just as easy to climb with your new extended range (42t) 1Ă—10 as any other factory setup. Now on the high end of the gear range there is a bit of a different story to be told. The 3Ă—10 setup wins the highest gear award with the ability to move 878cm per pedal stroke and the 1Ă—10 comes in last at 627cm. This explains some of the reasoning behind SRAM's XD freehub body that allows for a 10-tooth cog, which increases high-end ratios.

Now before dismissing the 1x setup on account of a lack of high gearing, ask yourself if you really think you've ever used this range before. Looking again at the chart, we can see that the same ratio of a 1Ă—10 extended setup (30T ring in the 11T cog) is available with a 3Ă—10 setup using the 42T ring with the 15T cog. So take your current 3Ă—10 bike out for a ride, and when you are descending the trails or riding back to the car on the flats, see if those last two gears (the 13 and 11-tooth cogs) make a difference to you. From personal experience, I find I don't have an issue spinning out on my bicycle. At 90RPM this last gear would have you traveling at 30mph. While I do have loads of fun ripping trails at 30mph, I don't find myself pedaling in these situations and also don't spend time on the road spinning at this speed.

Depending on your bicycle and riding style, perhaps higher RPMs and speeds are more important to you. Check out some of the pro XC setups around today. For the most part they are running an XX1 10-42 cassette with either a 36T or even a 38T chainring. So perhaps if you are building a XC rig, you look at a bigger front ring paired with that 10-speed extended cassette. Below we can see the results of the new 1Ă—10 11-42T cassette with a 36T chainring stacked against the original triple and 30T 1Ă—10 setups. Shifting the line upwards in favor of higher speeds and less climbing.

1x10 36T

Continue to page 2 for calculations and the bottom line »

Calculations

Looking at some of the bicycles currently in the Art's inventory, I've found some general gearing trends for today's mountain rides: 3Ă—10 setups are on the budget conscious bikes, 2Ă—10 on mid-range bicycles, and 1Ă—11 on the top-end models. The 3x bikes usually have a 24/32/42 chainring setup, while 2Ă—10's sport a 24/38-tooth setup. Regardless of the number of front chainrings, an 11-36T 10-speed cassette seems to be the norm in the rear. The 11-speed setups tend to include either a 30 or 32T front cog with a 10-42T in the back. These are not hard-and-fast rules, just some general trends used to evaluate drivetrains for the purposes of this article.

When comparing, the first thing to do is divide the number of teeth up front by the number in the rear of the currently selected cog. This gives you the gain ratio of the system and tells how many times the wheel will rotate per revolution of the crank. The data below shows the gain ratios of 3Ă—10, 2Ă—10, 1Ă—10, and 1Ă—11 systems.

Gain Ratios

One thing this data doesn't take into account is the size of the wheel. I'm sure there are plenty of you out there that are still rocking 26-inch wheels, while your friends run 27.5 wheels or 29ers. By multiplying the gain ratio by the circumference of the tire, we can calculate the distance the bicycle will travel for every pedal stroke. Because 26-inch wheels have a smaller circumference, we can step up the gearing so that it will roll the same distance in all gears. The math is there for you to double check, but a general rule of thumb is to step down 2 teeth in a chainring for every wheel size. So while I'm happy with the 34-tooth ring on my 26in bike, I would probably switch to a 32-tooth on a 27.5 bike with the same cassette, or a 30-tooth on a 29er. The below tables show the centimeters of forward movement for every pedal stroke on a 29er tire with a 30T ring compared to a 27.5 tire and 32-tooth ring.

1x10 Distance Traveled per Pedal Stroke

Bottom Line

Now that we've done a bit of analysis on gear ratios, you might be almost convinced to make the switch, but lets look at things from a monetary angle. The costs involved in a new extended range 1Ă—10 drivetrain really depend on your current equipment. A rear derailleur with a clutch is a requirement, along with either a narrow wide chainring or a chain guide. Without a front derailleur, the clutch derailleur and tall chainring tooth profile are necessary to keep the chain in place. If you already have these items, you might get away with just buying the extended cog. Because everyone's situation will be different, the table below list prices and weights on every component (you might not need every component) and then compares to an entry level X1 11-speed system.

Price and Weight Breakdown for 10 and 11-speed

10-Speed Price10-Speed Weight11-Speed Price11-Speed Weight
DerailleurShimano XT M781 $69.99237 gramsSRAM X-1 Type 2.1 $230.99257 grams
Cassettee*thirteen Extended Cog $65.99367 grams (w/ XT Cassette)SRAM X1 XG-1180 $245.00312 grams
ShifterShimano Zee M640 $34.99142 gramsSRAM X1 Trigger Shifter $69.99123 grams
Chainringe*thirteen GuideRing M $43.9943 gramse*thirteen GuideRing M $43.9943 grams
Totals$214.96789 grams$589.97735 grams

The end result is an additional $375 for an X1 drivetrain over a custom 1Ă—10 setup, saving a total of 54 grams. I leave the decision to you my friend, but I will personally be waiting for 11-speed drivetrains to trickle their way down into less expensive component groups. [Editor's Note: SRAM may well have answered this call with its new, more affordable GX drivetrain, which debuted after this article was written.]

https://reviews.mtbr.com/first-look-sram-gx-drivetrain

 

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#27 ·
One thing not mentioned (unless I missed it) is the exorbitant cost of replacement 1x11 cassettes (SRAM). I guess you could argue that a lot of bikes end up with low mileage before they're sold, but for the rest of us the follow-on costs are significant. I balk at the high cost of the SRAM cassettes (including GX) with no option to replace individual cogs -- and when you go to replace that slick 10sp range extender 42t the companies that made them will have moved on.

I think 1x10 is a great idea for recreational bikes for trail riding, not everyone lives near big mountains. BMX and a lot of slopestyle bikes benefit from horizontal dropouts and single gear.

If I'm doing an alpine crossing with all the stuff I need for a week on my back up long 20% inclines, and need to do another 10 miles to the evening destination on a slight downhill asphalt road I'm thankful for all the range I can get. I don't think I could get by with anything less than 2x9/10.
 
#32 ·
Rode a 1X11 in Moab this weekend, could not be happier with it. Not as much climbing as we have in the Wasatch, but worked perfectly for every possible scenario. So nice to just have one shifter, bang it down for the DH runs and slam it back up to grind up the ramps. Awesome. In the mountains, it is really either up or down, vastly different than riding in Wisconsin with rolling terrain and a few, very short punchy climbs. On the downhills, you are going way to fast to even use a gear, nothing extra needed here.

Lots of snide comments about hipsters, bros, even driving to the trail head. Lots of people need to get over themselves. When is choice a bad thing?
 
#33 ·
I'm still a fan of 3x. I ride lots of stuff with 25%-30% grades (that's damn steep) and I'd have to give up too much high end or low end to make a 1x or 2x work for me. I ride Shimano's 22-30-40 XT crank with an 11-36 rear on my 29er and love it. I also found that the 29er is giving up almost 2 gears on the low end to a 26er due to wheel size. I can make it up the climbs with a 24 tooth up front, but not without significant post-ride knee pain.

I've looked at 2x and I don't like most of the combos. I like riding in middle ring when I can and have found that the 30 tooth on my 3x combo works great on my 29er. I'd be on the small ring way more often on a 2x unless I converted my existing setup to 2x + bash, which would give up some on the high end. Just don't see it's worth it for this 50yr old dude who likes to climb. Yeah, wouldn't mind dumping the weight, but relative to my weight, it's insignificant.
 
#34 ·
I'm one of the few guys that still rides around town on my MTB bikes as well. Also, part of me really worries about the angle from a 1x ring on the front for such a wide range of angles in the back. I just envision all kinds of unnecessary stress on the chain. I never use the big ring on the trail, so if I was driving everywhere in my car, I could understand that. But on the road, getting to and from the trail etc, I use the big ring on my triple all the time. Maybe I'm old school, maybe I'm an outdated loser, but I still use 3x9 on all my bikes (primarily using just one or two rings most of the time) and I've yet to come across a situation it can't handle fairly well. Maybe not having a guard ring is a problem at times.
Whatever happened to riding your bike? One less car?
 
#37 ·
Hmmm... Do the math on a [I runs a 2X crank with a 32 big ring] 22 or 21 granny with a 36 rear. Sure you could run a 24 or 26 front ring on a 1X drivetrain, but no top gear. Some of us, who live in the hypoxic Rockies and don't have the youngest of legs, need a lower gear than a 1X drivetrain offers. Also, in situations when the chain is dry and angry, the extreme cross chaining of a 1X drivetrain will not be very forgiving. Sorry. Kool-Aid, Kool-Aid might taste great, but not everyone takes the bait.
 
#38 ·
With port cities growing in numbers and wealth, the nearby lower elevation trails are seeing more traffic. Within 5hrs of my home, there are trails that range from 10' - <1000' elev, and others in the 5,000' - 9,000+'. 90% of my riding happens at elevations under 2,500' and a 1x10 works great: stand and attack the short punchy climbs, spin out the 30x11 on the single track descents. Repeat. Blissful.

Meanwhile, riding the higher trails in the Sierras sometimes means steeper pitches on loose terrain - and a lot more seated climbing. When the climbs are long and arduous, I will miss my 24t granny ring.

Last thought: Are riders still staying seated to climb as much as they were 10-20 years ago? I ask because my 'progressive geometry' hard tail, while a blast going down, does not do seated climbing as efficiently (dare I say comfortably) as my older XC bikes (steeper HTA, shorter A-C) did. In seeking more info about this, I've come across arguments in favor of standing to climb more. Having just come from riding a lot of SS, I see a lot of upside to standing to pedal. But I'd be happy to find a more comfortable & stable seated climbing position too.
 
#39 ·
It's not a fad; it's an option. And apparently it doesn't work for you, but it does work well for others. 3x and 2x do not work better for me in the rocky, technical, steep mountains where I ride. There's something about the Internet that brings out arrogance. Now perhaps you'd like to tell me the correct wheel size I should be riding?
 
#40 ·
Hogwash!! I ditched my big chain ring years ago because I ride steep, rocky trails. So I used a 22/32 with a 12-36 cassette. This matches a 26er with a 22/32 and 11-34 cassette almost exactly. Now I have a 1x11 with a 26 front 12-42 cassette, and it is EXACTLY the same range of high and low gears. I have a very low gear for rocky, technical climbs, and the same top end. I can spin up over 30mph, and most of my trails never need that speed. I'm a very capable technical climber, and rarely does anyone climb something I can't. Usually it is the opposite. I get less weight, excellent chain retention, and it is super quiet through the rocky chunk. Also, before, I would kill my legs trying to push the middle ring, just to avoid making a front downshift when I knew I would have to upshift out of it soon. Now I run the gear my legs like, not forcing myself to push too high of a gear. I make a shift down to a gear that would have required me to shift down the front and 2 or 3 back up in the rear to duplicate. Now it is just one downshift down, and 1 back up. I keep my legs at the right cadence much easier now.
 
#41 ·
New geometry favors standing climbing.
Biking to the trailhead is the right thing to do. Even if you're a hipster lol.
Bikeradar says the fastest wheelsize overall is 29. Fastest on descents is 26.
Uci worldcup courses may be an 3xception to the bikeradar test findings because with 6 foot minimum track widths and ample runouts after most rocky/steep sections, a riding style of gap jumping anything technical is highly favored. So 650b might be fastest on uci courses.
 
#44 ·
Interesting and well put. I use 2 x 10 right now but am going try 1 x 10 modifying an XT 11-36 to 11-40 with a hope T-Rex 40 ring out back, with a 34 tooth OVAL n/w absolute black chain ring. I tend to change many gears at once rather than smooth 1 at a time changes, I also get out of the saddle a lot to haul myself up & over obsticals. If I need to spin up a long boring climb then I just take it easy but have foundhe 1 x guys in a new group are blowing m away. Reason being the torque of 24 ring is so rubbish it spoils the spin. Better to huck on the oval - I think......Time will tell
 
#45 ·
I live in central Texas. Austin to be exact. I am currently using a 2x9 setup but will be going to a 1x10 32t 11-36. I am thinking that this will give me enough range so I can climb some of the hills around here. And yes here in Texas we do have some pretty steep, long grinding hills. And for the guys that are saying this and that about fads in mountain biking. Take it from me, when I started mountain biking there were 3x and 7 cogs in the rear. Then 8 speed came along. Then 9 speed. Now we have 2x 10 / 1x10 , 1x11. I am 50 years old. For me it is about making it as easy as I can to make it to the top of the hill and having fun. And yes I am still using 26 in wheels and just went tubeless.
 
#46 ·
For the trails I ride 3x9 works best. 22x34 for lowest. 42x11 for highest. 42 is great for flat roads and going down. There is some overlap with the 32, but that is okay because although gears inches can be similar, pedaling a smaller front smaller back feels different than pedaling a larger front and larger back. Also by have more rings up front, you spread the load and the rings last longer.