Needs two mounting points on the rear for rack and fenders, but other than that looks pretty awesome.

EDIT: NVM, I see in this pic that there is another point on the seat stay further up. Nice!

 

Yep, this bike is looking damm near perfect!

 

That subdued green is so much nicer than the sparkle pony purple.

 

(Jumping up and down) I want sparkle pony, I want sparkle pony!

Anyway, it will be a good combo with my purple Troll.

 

Yeah buddy! two purple bikes!

 

I like the reported taller head tube, but otherwise I have no interest in this over my CC. The CC's dropouts allow easy single speed gear changes, without adjusting the brakes, which look like a big PITA with this frame. Then again, I don't really see the need for discs outside wet or snowy mountain biking.

 

The CC's dropouts allow easy single speed gear changes, without adjusting the brakes, which look like a big PITA with this frame.

Look again, the Straggler is just as easy.

 

If I was looking for a brand new bike, I might consider this... the biggest reason for the disc brakes to me has nothing to do with breaking power... but it's easier to put the wheel in and out with discs than my Tektro 720 canti's. I need to loosten the straddle wire or deflate my tire to remove the wheel with my breaks. They work well, but it's a bit of a hassle. But not enough reason to replace it. Besides, I LOVE my Blark Due CC. The CC has had some of Surly's best colors over the years.

Now the new blue Pugs I have my eye on..... or maybe a champagne moonlander.

 

I already said this in a different thread, but its worth repeating. The Cross Check is perfect just the way it is. So I don't really see what this bike brings, except that it sates the disc-crazy masses that have been bugging Surly for a bike like this for years. Admittedly, it is a pretty bike and I'd totally get one over the Vaya or the Disc Trucker, if I ever need a heavier and more complicated braking system than one I currently have. And if it gets more people on Surly's, I'm all for it. :smilewinkgrin:

 

Yeah but... IT'S PINK AND SPARKLY!!!

 

Gonna be near impossible for me to call this the Straggler instead of the disc Cross Check!

 

I'm excited to see a geometry chart. I loved my old CC but it never fit me quite right. Now that I know what I'm looking for, if this is within my ranges, I might be interested. A forth Surly in my garage wouldn't trigger any sort of "intervention" issues would it?

 

X2 on being super curious a out how the straggler geo compares to the CC. Really hoping for that longer head tube.

 

Hopefully it comes in another color.

 

It will

Yea, and despite the urge by Surly to get to your LBS for pre-order....they cannot yet be pre-orderd. ARGH!!!

Sure it can. Have your LBS check the "Specials and Programs" part of the QBP online. It'll be easier to get if your LBS pre-orders a few more to stock though.

 

When I first saw and heard of this I was certain I would be getting the frame ASAP to replace my new CC. After a cooling off period I am not so sure. Yes, I might have opted for this to begin with. I am more than happy with my linear pull brakes. They are easily equal to my bb7s in stopping power even when wet. I do like the longer head tube but don't know what advantage the new rear drop out provides. I'd personally have to get it powder coated but that is just me. Who knows, maybe after I see one. If anything I think for me a Disc Trucker would better suit my purposes....but I know these are only my purposes and opinions. It's great to have so many viable options from Surly to choose from.

 

I am more than happy with my linear pull brakes. They are easily equal to my bb7s in stopping power even when wet.

Again, different strokes for different folks. But come on, linears are equal to bb7's in wet conditions? I like cantilever brakes, I like disc brakes. But saying that they provide the same stopping power in adverse conditions is just silly.

 

Looks like September for the Straggler.

http://surlybikes.com/blog/post/ta_dah

 

Looks like September for the Straggler.

Ta-Dah | Blog | Surly Bikes

Yea, and despite the urge by Surly to get to your LBS for pre-order....they cannot yet be pre-orderd. ARGH!!! I need to make sure I get one of these as soon as they hit. My cross bike is out of commish for the time being and while commuting and touring on the Pug is fun...I miss drop bars and skinny(ish) tires. Yes, I consider 38c skinny.

 

The beginning portion acts like a vertical dropout.

 

I saw the info on this, the next day I sold my 1x1 and then went and ordered my disc trucker frameset...

i LOVE the color, the dropouts seem like a logical compromise, but I just couldn't wait... maybe in a while I'll pick one up as I'd love to build a more "roadie" bike and I like the idea of building my entire stable around 135mm disc wheels... so maybe I'll build one of these up eventually with proper drop bars and such...

 

Oh. I see how the first diagram would work as a vertical dropout but thought what they did was more like the second diagram. To me it seems it would slip just the same.

 

Any word on the Axle-To-Crown dimension ?

If it's 400mm I can see CC owners just buying the forks (including me).

 

Or you could just buy a current Disc Trucker fork. It's only 10mm shorter, which I would like to drop the CC's bottom bracket a hair.

 

I like that it has the extra eyelets on the fork(hopefully one of these days they add them to the cc fork). I like the longer headtube, I like that it appears to have less toe overlap with big tires. I read it has a lower BB which i'm not excited about(I completely understand why they did it, I just already get enough pedal strike on trails even on 700x45s). I'm not sold on it as a replacement for my cross check just yet. But maybe in addition to......

 

When i took my Cross Check to a disc 2 winters ago, i used a Salsa La Cruz disc fork since it was nearly identical to the Checks stock fork. Rides great and its only a little stiffer than the stock fork.

 

Hoping to sell my 1x1 and possibly pick up one of these maybe.

 

I gotta say, the Straggler is pretty tempting to set-up as a SS commuter with a flat or upright bar. But I go through this every year with the new Surlys. Ever since the DT came out I've been threatening to put a DT fork on my LHT. I'm already thinking of doing the same for my CC. I've got a brand new Pass & Stow rack in a box that would likely mount up perfect on my CC with a Straggler fork. That'll likely be my winter project. Maybe with a new rear fixed wheel...

 

So any speculation as to how much a frameset will be?

 

It would be great if it stayed around the same as the DT but I imagine it might be more expensive given the XD coat or whatever it's called. We'll know soon enough. Hopefully Surlys will remain cheaper than Salsas.

 

Been thinking about disc brakes since this thread. I SLAMMED on the brakes a few times today rocking down the Berkeley hills and rim brakes work really well. I think there is just a sex appeal to disc brakes!

Also Bike Snob had a great point about "gravel bikes" and how they are just cyclocross bikes, but a marketing gimmick for something else "you need" (albeit, I don't think anyone is going to try to REALLY race on these, there are such better options out there for racing).

 

I'm not looking to race a Straggler, though it will likely happen once or twice. I mainly just want something that isn't quite a full-on MTB, designed with drops in mind, and can fit fat rubber. My current cross bike maxes out at 700x38 and I'm looking to also replace it with something that can be set up single speed without a tensioner.

And disc brakes are just a given for me. One major reason - this bike will be ridden year-round. They tend to use a good bit of salt on the roads around here and one winter of commuting is just about enough to ruin a pair of rims if you're running rim brakes. Not a problem with discs. Not to mention rain and mud performance.

 

When will the KNARD 700x41 tire be available?

 

Some more Straggler info:

$550 frameset MSRP
$1850 complete bike MSRP

September availability for both framesets & completes

Colors: Glitter Dreams, Black (both colors available on framesets & completes)

Sizes: 42, 46, 50, 52, 54, 56, 58, 60, 62, 64 (!!)

No word on geometry yet. I'm eager to see it!

 

Really? So the complete is more $ than an All City Macho Man disc, but the frameset for the Straggler is cheaper. And if the Macho Man comes with 105 and the Straggler with Tiagra (based on pictures) then that doesn't make the Straggler complete a very good deal.

Waiting to see what Surly releases for complete specs.

 

The Straggler looks great. I'm looking for an IGH friendly commuter bike. :thumbsup:

I need to buy a new FS MTB first, but the Straggler seems like a good option to keep on deck.

Although I'd need to budget for some new Sparkle Pony decals.