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SRAM GXP Bottom Bracket design issue

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#1 ·
So after replacing my GXP BB for the fourth time in a year, I've discovered a design flaw that leads to its demise.
When fitted on my 2012 Air9 SS EBB with SRAM carbon crankset and Blackspire chainring, There is a gap of 3 to 4mm between the plastic cap on the drive side of the GXP BB and the inside of the chainring. After a few rides this plastic cap comes loose and works it's way along the spindle up to the chain ring. Then dirt gets into the drive side BB bearing and it's life is drastically shortened.
Has anyone else had this problem?
My question is: are there other BBs that will fit (GXP English thread) that are designed in a way that the end cap can't come off?
 
#22 ·
No, gxp is not a preloaded BB. The crank spindle is captured by the non drive bearing by the step in the spindle and the crank arm. The spindle floats in the bearing on the drive side. Do NOT try to close this gap and preload the bearings. It will make the BB fail.
As far as the gap goes, there should be a wavy washer to hold the bearing seal against the the bearing on the drive side if the bb has a seal that floats. Some gxp BB has caps that don't move.
 
#5 ·
i don't think you are doing anything wrong. there are multiple posts on this issue over the past couple years. i recall that some filled the gap with o rings that they bought at hardware store. i have experienced it first hand, too. the aftermarket GXP must be sized different than the OEM. so you can either use spacers where u r not supposed to or do the hack solution of gasket or o ring where none should be. i solved my problem by switching to a Shimano crankset and BB. I suppose you could also try a small strip of duct tape across the dust cap to keep it in place. SRAM probably designed it as such for all us hacks.


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#8 ·
Don't try to add spacers to pre-load the drive side. That is not how the GXP BB is designed. Yes it is a common problem and has been discussed at length. Ride in dry conditions? Not as big of an issue. Lot of stream crossings etc. going to have a problem. There is a thread in here somewhere on how to re-grease the GXP BB that gets them running smoothly again.
 
#13 ·
On most frames, there should be a gap between the right crank arm and the right bearing. This is so you can run a BB mounted chain guide, front derailleur, etc. I had the same problem and temptorarily fixed it by putting somethin rubber between the bearing and the right arm- a section of a small inner tube, rubber bands, o-rings, etc. A few appropriately-sized o-rings should do the trick.
 
#18 ·
I'm a fan of wheels manufacturing BB's. Awesome quality/tolerances at a good price point. Their GXP BB's ship with the wavy washer & spacer intended to take up said space as BB crankset interface will vary with different brands/combo's etc. While I guess you could say it adds some preload to the system certainly not enough to cause one iota of wear to the bearing hence the washer being wavy. Furthermore, the captured bearing will absolutely see tremendous side load so the idea that the wavy washer is going to add enough to cause premature wear is moot. Further furthermore, any good quality BB bearing is going to be an angular contact bearing designed to handle side loading in this application.
 
#19 ·
Agreed on all points. It was being suggested that the cranks should be in contact with the drive side bottom bracket and that statement is not the case. A wave washer to fill the gap is going to do nothing as far as side load. That said you should be bottoming out the cranks on the spindle and not the bottom bracket cups. If you hit the BB cups before you bottom out the crank to the spindle your next issue will be your cranks coming loose all the time and a ton of drag. This system is designed to let the drive side float. Taking up the space on the drive side with a wave washer still allows you to install your cranks properly and let the drive side float.
 
#20 ·
I have two GXP BB's: one is on a 2009 bike and the other on a 2007 (one drive side spacer on both IIRC). Both have run lots of miles in all sorts of conditions including mud, wet, dry, etc. and still spin with no drag.

I also have Chris King, Phil Wood and Shimano BB's. Only one I've crushed so far is a Phil Wood!
 
#21 ·
I've used an Enduro XD-15 BB on my stumpjumper for 3 or 4 seasons and have been absolutely impressed with it. I replaced a set of seals in that time frame and that's it. User friendly and easily maintained. I can disassemble, clean, fresh grease, and reassemble in 20 minutes. I usually do this 3/4 times a season. The fact that it's an outboard design necessitates frequent maintenance.

ENDURO XD-15 OUTBOARD ROAD BOTTOM BRACKET