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#1 ·
I found out about this brand by accident and am curious about it, and willing to see for myself whether it really is a revolution or a snake oil.
I have no idea which model is better for me though:
It's either 6OX or 611.
I pedal a lot, but I also like to go downhill too, and one of my friends loves to drag me through all kinds of shitty terrain that's way above my skills, meaning it's often steep AF.
I heard one of these saddles (or all of them?) ran very wide, and I already am riding 155mm saddle right now, having pretty wide sit bones.
Which one would you recommend I try, and what are the main differences anyway?
 
#2 ·
I have the 611 in the 14 cm width. I used the site's recommendation to measure my sit bones to get the sizing. I'm coming from a WTB Silverado saddle which was causing me some pain, and was only getting worse with time (i.e. I wasn't adapting to it). I really like the and don't have the pain anymore. I went with the carbon rail non-active version because I wanted to save weight more than I wanted the saddle to rock under me. From what I read, the active version does seem to help if you need the extra comfort.

The sqlab saddles supposedly have a different profile vertically such that they rise more towards the back. You are supposed to slide back until you're sitting at the base of that ramp. It does feel good to settle in there, and I feel more stable in that position. I do have to occasionally deliberately move back into that position after I climb, as I tend to get on the nose of the saddle during extended hills.

As far as the 611 vs the 60x, I don't have a direct comparison. I think the 60x was just announced when I got the 611. The 60x looks like it's identical with a little extra heftiness for DH/Ebiking, and the perineal relief area is slightly larger.
 
#8 ·
The sqlab saddles supposedly have a different profile vertically such that they rise more towards the back. You are supposed to slide back until you're sitting at the base of that ramp.
This is exactly why I got rid of it on my road and gravel bikes and only keep it on MTB.
Even with 0 offset seatpost, my road bike and gravel bike's STA is just too slack to set that up right. I pushed the saddle as far as it go forward. Yet the ramp is still too far back for my usage on slack STA bikes.
Only my steeper STA MTB allow it to go forward enough.
 
#7 ·
I moved from various WTB to the SQLab 611 about 7-8 years ago and will never ride another saddle, it has been perfect for me and I could only compare it to a great pair of slippers, never a tender spot, never felt like I wasn't in the exact right position and durable too. I'm on the same saddle I bought way back when and it's still pretty much like new.

As others have said, use the fitting recommendation and you should be good...I'm on the 14cm width BTW, as for the difference between DH, Trail, eBike, etc...other than the DH being a bit shorter I'm not sure what the differences are, the original 611 is all I care to own.
 
#9 ·
I had one a couple years ago and can't remember exactly what model it was (611?), but I know I hated it. It was uncomfortable as hell and had a weird rise at the back that I kept slipping forward from making it more uncomfortable. One of the worst saddles I've owned. Now on an Ergon SM Comp M/L and like it. I, too, require a 155mm saddle width.
 
#10 ·
I didn't have great luck with them either. It felt very strange trying to find that sweet spot where I'm supposed to sit. I gave it a week or two. Went back to my Fabric Scoop saddles. Someday when I win a lottery, or get a mystery inheritance I'm going to start an online saddle testing company. I'll send you 10 saddles of all different shapes, and you pay me $100 rental for two weeks. Then send them back. If you want to keep one, you get a deal on it. I'd lose money, but man would that be awfully handy. In fact, maybe I'd include some adapter thing that you mount to your seatpost, and then each saddle has the mount too, like a quick release, so you can swap saddles in 5 seconds once you get the angles right. But I'm dreaming now...back to the topic.

They didn't agree with me.
 
#22 ·
I didn't have great luck with them either. It felt very strange trying to find that sweet spot where I'm supposed to sit. I gave it a week or two. Went back to my Fabric Scoop saddles. Someday when I win a lottery, or get a mystery inheritance I'm going to start an online saddle testing company. I'll send you 10 saddles of all different shapes, and you pay me $100 rental for two weeks. Then send them back. If you want to keep one, you get a deal on it. I'd lose money, but man would that be awfully handy. In fact, maybe I'd include some adapter thing that you mount to your seatpost, and then each saddle has the mount too, like a quick release, so you can swap saddles in 5 seconds once you get the angles right. But I'm dreaming now...back to the topic.

They didn't agree with me.
I am in full support of your business idea, and would even like in on it. Just gotta get through med school first so I can sniff a paycheck lol.
 
#14 ·
I have a couple 611's and have been using the 60x for the past year. I came across the company when trying to end the numbness to the plumbs on long sustained climbs. The 611's are very hard, will probably need to start with a chamois. As far as the 611, on some bikes, it really is difficult to find that "sweet spot" of where the but bones need to plant, as well as sometimes it's a constant slide forward. I've read in a review that the reviewer didn't recommend it for the modern steep seat tube angles. I think there might be something to this. But, on the right bike, and once use to it, pretty great saddle. The 60x is a fairly different beast, just looking at it, you can see the sitting platform sits flat as opposed to the ramped 611. The 60x also has some flex to it and much softer, no chamois needed. I found my 60x on sale, but not considering price, I'd recommend the 60x hands down.
 
#17 ·
Here's 1 of the reviews that mentions the seat tube angle issue, I believe there's at least 1 more.
 
#19 ·
the max weight rating om the sq lab saddles is not very high. I broke the saddlerails on 2 with my 90 kg. The Ergon Sm Comp provides similar fit without the raised back but is more sturdy and more comfortable. and cheaper.
But would still recommend the sq lab, only i recommend the ergon more…
It was the first saddle that proved for me that saddles do not have to be u comfartable narrow planks
 
#20 ·
I have 2 611 Active saddles, but just got a WTB Silverado 265 Ti for my new Nomad. It's a bit lighter and works just fine for me for about 1/3rd of the price.

I'm not sure I've ever found a great saddle, I think as long as it fits you and doesn't cause any issues that's as good as it gets.
 
#21 ·
Yeah, my favorite saddles to date are head and shoulders Specialized, specifically their low to mid-tier one's. No matter how much money I've spent chasing a better one I always come back to a specialized mid-tier saddle.
 
#23 ·
Ended up buying 611 as 6OX was weirdly steep and only comfortable when climbing. It's pretty nice, but not revolutionary like they claim. I think the major advantage for me is the fact they go all the way to 16cm width. I must have super weird ass bones. 15cm was not enough, and most saddles on the market don't seem to go above 15.


A question though: is anyone aware of any of those small under the saddle mudguards that would fit a SQLab saddle? I have the version with replacable elastomers that take all the space between the rails and the saddle and there might not be any room for mounting it. I never had one in my hands so I have no idea.
 
#27 ·
I really like the 611 for upright MTB trail riding but want something with better perineal relief for longer rides (50-100 miles) on my dropbar hardtail (mixed gravel and XC singletrack) where I'm a bit more bent over.

Debating between the 60x or the newer 614 gravel model. Both offer more relief than the 611 due to a taller/steeper middle shelf, but this also makes the seating position more limiting. I briefly tried the 60x a while back and liked it when I was in the exact spot it wanted me but even a bit of movement made me lose that butt pocket which was frustrating.

But now that I'm used to the 611 I wonder if the 60x will feel more natural?
 
#28 ·
In the end I found the SQlab saddles too restrictive in placement for my dropbar hardtail. Overall I like the SQlabs concept and the foam felt perfect, but the 611 only provides modest perineal relief as the middle step tapers down to the nose while the relief channel disappears fast, which effectively mitigates the whole step relief concept IME. I also couldn't get the saddle quite far back enough for my sitting needs on this bike (more bent over than typical MTB).

The 60x might better help with relief, but the rear shelf location is similar to the 611 and would also prevent me from sitting as far back as I'd like on it. So I swapped the 611 to my full suspension trail bike where I don't need to sit as far back or as much relief due to a more upright position.

For my dropbar MTB I ended up buying the women's Ergon SM e-mountain pro saddle instead. The ergon offers a very flat sitting surface that accommodates a lot different sitting positions but has a steep lip at the very rear that helps stabilise me during climbs. The same lip isn't an issue once I drop the saddle for descents and tech. The foam is similar to the 611, a touch softer, and the nose is a little wider, which I prefer for relief on climbs.

I'm a guy but bought the women's version as the cutout runs more forward on the saddle than the men's version. I need more perineal relief forward of the sitbone and on the nose as my pelvis tilts forward a lot, especially on hard efforts on flats and long climbs. The cutout on the men's version goes further back but is shorter and more shallow up front where I need it most.

BTW, I don't understand why ergon bothers making gendered saddles - a single saddle type with a channel like the mens in the rear and women's in the front would probably accomodate the differing needs for both men and women without any drawbacks for the other sex. Maybe offer it in three sizes instead. I think their gender specific saddles are mostly marketing.
 
#30 ·
Note: I have 10cm sitbones. If one's bones are way wider, this may not apply.

I have several(3?) 611 since a few years and I absolutely love them. They my oldest one is almost 5 years, and it shows almost no wear, despite sitting on my daily driver.
Sometimes I just want to go for a short 20min ride wearing jeans, but then end up back home after 2h on the saddle. No issue with that saddle.

I just got the 6OX, but haven't put it on my MTB yet.
 
#31 ·
I noticed some previous comments regarding the saddle being creaky. I own two SQ Lab 611's and both have developed terrible creaks. I have lubed the rails, dropper post seat clamp and even tried getting some lube into the rail/seat connection below the saddle. Nothing works. Other saddles, when installed onto the same dropper post, do not creak.

I love the fit of the 611's but hate the noise they now make. Has anyone else been able to remedy this?