[joezuri]

My red Chisel, a medium. It weighs right at 25 lbs with Egg Beater pedals given 2 separate digital scales. I have it set up tubeless with lots of sealant. Wheelset isn't light but it appears extremely well built. View attachment 1151128

Is that ur garage or a bike shop?

 

[rakerdeal]

were your stumpjumpers carbon or aluminum?

One M-4 aluminum, one S-Works Carbon and one Comp Carbon. All given to family members as I bought something else. I am pretty exhausted from a long ride yesterday morning on my 2014 SJ Expert Evo so it will be a day or two before I ride the red Chisel enough to get a better feel.

 

[Tyrich88]

One M-4 aluminum, one S-Works Carbon and one Comp Carbon. All given to family members as I bought something else. I am pretty exhausted from a long ride yesterday morning on my 2014 SJ Expert Evo so it will be a day or two before I ride the red Chisel enough to get a better feel.

Cool. Look forward to hearing what you think!

 

[DixieFly]

The waiting is killing me!

I ordered a Size medium Cali Fade about a month ago through my LBS and the waiting is murder. I am building it up with XT 11 sp drive train, XT brakes, SID RL, crest rims with DT Swiss 240 front hub 350 rear. Should be pretty light and fast! Anybody ordered a medium and gotten delivery yet.

 

[rakerdeal]

Is that ur garage or a bike shop?

My garage.

 

[Tyrich88]

I ordered a Size medium Cali Fade about a month ago through my LBS and the waiting is murder. I am building it up with XT 11 sp drive train, XT brakes, SID RL, crest rims with DT Swiss 240 front hub 350 rear. Should be pretty light and fast! Anybody ordered a medium and gotten delivery yet.

When i ordered mine the other day they said it should be shipping "any day now". So hopefully our long wait is over. I tried to wait until they were available to pay for one and order but i just kept buying parts with the money so it was getting dangerous haha.

Sounds like we are going to have some great builds going on around here!

I have a Boost reba thats never been ridden if anyone is interested in it for a chisel build.

Edit: Reba is sold.

 

[rakerdeal]

OK, maybe I can get the words right without misleading anyone.....After riding the Chisel ten miles today on a somewhat rooty somewhat rocky trail today I am feeling that the bike does ride differently than the 3 Stumpjumper hardtails I owned. It is more subdued-- meaning calmer-- on the bumps than the SJ--- given the same fork pressure, tire pressure, etc. I'm guessing the longer wheelbase is involved along with the head angle being more relaxed. The bike seems really solid. The wheelset is heavier than the ones I have been using for years (Stan's Crest; Stan's Race Gold, Stans Arch....I have all three available for my 2014 SJ Evo Expert 29er full suspension)--- but the wheelset is solid and I do not feel the flex that I feel with the Stan's wheels.

The one thing I particularly like about the bike is how it feels when I stand and hammer the pedals. The cockpit feels roomier than the SJ 29ers; I can move around more without getting too far forward so easily. The bike is (to me) obviously/significantly better downhill than the SJ's.

That's all for now.

 

[hesitationpoint]

Does anybody know how much the stock wheels weigh on the Chisel and if it's possible to save weight on a wheelset that costs less than $800?

 

[Tyrich88]

Does anybody know how much the stock wheels weigh on the Chisel and if it's possible to save weight on a wheelset that costs less than $800?

I would assume the stock wheels are around 1800 grams (thats usually pretty accurate on their lower level builds like this)

Any stans set should do you pretty well. You could also probably score some lightly used carbon rovals for about that much.

 

[Tyrich88]

OK, maybe I can get the words right without misleading anyone.....After riding the Chisel ten miles today on a somewhat rooty somewhat rocky trail today I am feeling that the bike does ride differently than the 3 Stumpjumper hardtails I owned. It is more subdued-- meaning calmer-- on the bumps than the SJ--- given the same fork pressure, tire pressure, etc. I'm guessing the longer wheelbase is involved along with the head angle being more relaxed. The bike seems really solid. The wheelset is heavier than the ones I have been using for years (Stan's Crest; Stan's Race Gold, Stans Arch....I have all three available for my 2014 SJ Evo Expert 29er full suspension)--- but the wheelset is solid and I do not feel the flex that I feel with the Stan's wheels.

The one thing I particularly like about the bike is how it feels when I stand and hammer the pedals. The cockpit feels roomier than the SJ 29ers; I can move around more without getting too far forward so easily. The bike is (to me) obviously/significantly better downhill than the SJ's.

That's all for now.

Good feedback! Thanks!

 

[V10Jon]

Does anybody know how much the stock wheels weigh on the Chisel and if it's possible to save weight on a wheelset that costs less than $800?

I ordered a fish scale today on amazon. When it gets in I will take the front wheel+tire off and see what it weighs. (with tires/tubes and without)

 

[rakerdeal]

My digital scale hit the skids so I could only manually compare my Chisel wheels to my various Stans wheels, Arch, Crest, Race Gold. The wheels are heavier than my Arch wheels which of course are my heaviest wheelset. I never weighed my Arch wheelset as weight wasn't as important. But my guess is the Chisel wheels will be around 2000 grams.

 

[hesitationpoint]

Do you guys think it's worthwhile to just upgrade to the Epic Hardtail Comp ($2500) instead of buying the Chisel and a new wheel set? It seems that the price difference is quickly absorbed by a decent wheel set.

 

[rakerdeal]

I defer this question to those who know more about the wording and details/specifics of wheels for the Specialized bikes.

 

[hesitationpoint]

The 2018 Epic hardtail comp comes with Roval control alloys.

 

[rakerdeal]

hesitationpoin it looks (and I am not the expert) that the Epic Comp uses the Control rims but not the Control hubs.

From reading the website it looks to me as if Specialized is using a variety of different combinations of their wheel and hub components on their lower end Epic bike and ones like the Chisel. Not sure the wording is consistent on some of these.

 

[rakerdeal]

Tyrich88 I might add to my discussion that I have been around the circle as to mountain bikes, going from 26 hardtails all the way to the full suspension 29er. When I finished racing 3 years ago I was on a 23 lb full suspension Specialized bike that literally ate the trail while I pedaled as if I were in a spin class. The trail in most cases no longer was challenging. The really light 29er hardtail SJ had been surpassed by the new precise dual suspension technology. I quit racing; I love simplicity; I am delighted with the Chisel because it is simple, inexpensive, and the weight is reasonable. The GX groupset is at least one pound heavier than the best available 1x11 groupset; the wheelset is at least one pound heavier than many upper end wheelsets; the frame is about a pound heavier than the Epic carbon hardtail; etc. But I like the ride of a 25 lb hardtail and I love the ride of a 25 lb hardtail with a slightly slacker front end with a tad more suspension. With the exception of going uphill in a race...to me a 25 lb hardtail rides far better than my former 22 lb racing hardtails--- particularly those older hardtails with 71 degree front ends. So I ride the bike by choice. I'm older, the exercise is great for me.

 

[hesitationpoint]

hesitationpoin it looks (and I am not the expert) that the Epic Comp uses the Control rims but not the Control hubs.

From reading the website it looks to me as if Specialized is using a variety of different combinations of their wheel and hub components on their lower end Epic bike and ones like the Chisel. Not sure the wording is consistent on some of these.

I think you are right. The $3800 epic clearly states roval hubs but not the $2500 version (I have a printout for the 2018 which sells for $2500).

Specialized also emailed me and told me the 2017 Epic hardtail for $2600 weighs 24lbs for a large. hmmmm....decisions.

 

[ExhaustPipe]

Here's my medium Chisel set up tubeless, no pedals. Everything else is stock.

 

[djmuerte]

Hi guys, very nice all Chisel!

I'm interested in this bike, but I have doubts about the 1x11 (30t 11-42), is it possible to put this bike a cassette sunrace 11-46?

Thanks