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hardly thinking on putting a 120 fork on my chisel. I heard that the frame is flexy, I feel it stiff. I weight 75 kg and when going downhill this fork feels soooo cheap and slow, can't feel the support on the Judy gold, it's my second bike, I got an AM bike.

Trying to decide on pike 29 120 or SID RL 120, any problems with warranty on upforking? Any disadvantage of running 120 mm?
 
hardly thinking on putting a 120 fork on my chisel. I heard that the frame is flexy, I feel it stiff. I weight 75 kg and when going downhill this fork feels soooo cheap and slow, can't feel the support on the Judy gold, it's my second bike, I got an AM bike.

Trying to decide on pike 29 120 or SID RL 120, any problems with warranty on upforking? Any disadvantage of running 120 mm?
I'm running a 120 SID RL on mine. +20mm is usually ok for warrantee. I don't feel there's any downside, some will notice a little slower steering.

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Chisel large set up more cross country / race than trail. Enve M5 bar, 760mm width, 5mm rise with a Syntace 75mm stem, 6* rise. Happy with my weight distribution over the bike. I believe this setup is very close to the chisel expert. Great climbing stance but not too far over the front wheel during descents. Had same bar with 90mm flat stem which was great on climbs but a bit sketch downhill.
 
Got my '19 X1 back from my LBS. New Judy fork under warranty, but they also replaced the bottom bracket as it was bust - after 450km! Though these new screw-in bearings were the second coming...personally, I've had no probs with the BB30s on several bikes since 2014.

Other mods was a 34t chainring. Clearance to the chainstay is about 1mm - is it not possible to run a 36t on this bike, or have they fitted a ring with wrong offset?

Swapped to my Roval Control Carbon wheels with GX casette and Renegade/fast track, and took her for a long ride yesterday. Much impressed with this bike. Compared to the Carve I had back in 2013, this bike handles so much better. I use it for commuting, but may actually do some gravel/XC races with it. Feels so snappy. Proper old-skool MTB riding, though it won't replace my Stumpy :)
 
I just ordered a Chisel frame and read on here a few pages back that the headset and crown race are included. I also just ordered a Salsa Firestarter Deluxe 110 fork for the frame. Is there anything else I'll need to make this fork work with this frame?

For reference on the headset and crown race being included:
Just FYI for anybody else that had the question, Specialized confirmed that US framesets include the headset and crown race in the box.
 
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Gravel bike build?

I just ordered a Chisel frame and read on here a few pages back that the headset and crown race are included. I also just ordered a Salsa Firestarter Deluxe 110 fork for the frame. Is there anything else I'll need to make this fork work with this frame?

For reference on the headset and crown race being included:
 
Gravel bike build?
No, it will be a rigid mountain bike. I have seen a Specialized S-Works Diverge with a flat bar though. The lines are getting blurred. I was considering the Diverge but I suspect the Chisel will be easier on me when going 12 hours a day through rougher terrain for a couple weeks. I ordered this frame specifically for the Great Divide Mountain Bike Route but also will use it for day to day riding on smooth singletrack, long gravel days, and bike touring.

It would be cool to see it as a gravel build with drop bars but I'm not planning on making that experiment happen soon. I think these frames weigh about the same as the Salsa Cutthroat. From Salsa, "A large Cutthroat frame is about 1500 grams and the Cutthroat fork about 620 grams." The fork I got is 80 grams heavier, has boost spacing, and matching offset.
 
Chisel update!

Some updates



2019 Roval Control wheels with DT Swiss 350 straight pull hubs, DT Swiss Competition Race spokes and Pro lock Squorks nipples
Fox 34 120mm
XT M8000 4 pistons brakes, XTR Freeza rotors
XTR shifter, XTR derailleur, XG1199 10-42 cassette, XT chain
XX1 cranks with Quarq powermeter, Absolute Black oval 34 tooth chairing
Easton EC90 seatpost
Selle Italia SLR Superflow seat
Easton EC70 stem
Easton EC90 handlebar
Ritchey pedals
Continental tires

Next mod is a carbon rigid fork

Hope you like it, cheers!
 
Next mod is a carbon rigid fork
Nice looking build. Which forks are you looking at? I was split between the Niner Boost RDO MTB fork (490mm axle to crown, 585 grams) and the Salsa Firestarter 110 Deluxe carbon fork (483mm axle to crown, 787 grams). The stock Chisel expert has a 506mm axle to crown length.

I settled on the Salsa fork but have some regrets. The availability of the Salsa fork and the "out of stock" status of the Niner fork was a deciding factor. The Niner fork is in stock now and I haven't mounted the Salsa fork yet but decided to stick with the Salsa fork.

The light mount, internal dynamo cable routing, and bottle mounts sold me on it. Those extra features won't get used too much but are worth it to me. I'm planning to ride the GDMBR this summer and think the Niner fork is probably a better choice for most people generally and on the GDMBR. It's just that I'm really into the light mount because I've got huge hands and limited space on my handlebars. This is a fairly unique issue as this applies to when I'm using a handlebar harness, Garmin Etrex 20x mounted, inboard bar ends (mini aero bars), and feed bags. The 4 sets of 3-pack bottle cage mounts are meme worthy and have extremely limited application but I'm sure I'll appreciate them on the occasions I use them. They won't be used on the GDMBR. I've got three King Cage Manything cages and a few route scouting trips planned for that.

The Niner fork has two mounts for regular water bottle cages, no dynamo cable routing, and no light mount. I haven't weighed it to verify the weight.

I weighed the Salsa fork and bolts and separately weighed the bottle cage bolts and they add up to 40 grams of the weight.

edit:
Included the axle to crown measurements. Worth considering.
 
Chsiel Comp 2018

Hi,
I picked up a 2018 Comp size M for a good price.



The weight is 12.57 kg incl. inner barends and bottle cages. Compared with my former Carve (2013) it is both more agile and more compliant on descends.

But I had a funny moment on my first run: the dust cap of the left dip tube came of with a plop and sat approx. 20 mm away from its place on the stand pipe. Never seen this before (in 19 years of biking).

I will ride this status until the first components have to be replaced. I have got a list in my mind:
- 38/24 chain rings
- Remote post (KS LEV)
- Maxxis Ikon (maybe a better allrounder) tubeless

As you can see the list is short because Specialized made a great job in specification. There is not ineed to replace something instead of weight. Function is awesome!

KR,
Armin
 
So got my replacement (warranty) RS Judy for my '19 X1. Sad to say the new fork is almost as sh*tty as the one it replaced. Feels just like the headset bearings are shot, annoying rattle through the bars whenever the fork is at full extension.

I realize the X1 is a budget bike, but it's a shame such a nice bike comes with what appears to be a really low-end fork.
 
Ordered myself a new wheelset for my Chisel Expert 1x from 2018.

Through my local bike shop a handbuilt wheelset. DT Swiss 350 hubs / Rims also DT swiss (type was mentioned but i forgot and its not on the final invoice)
Well, after a few more weeks of waiting, the set finally was ready for pick up.

the wheelbuilder did remove all stickers from the rims and it isnt mentioned on the invoice, but i am told they are true DT Swiss parts. Although at this time i have no clue which ones.

DT Swiss 350 hubs
XT 11-42 Cassette
SLX Discs
Specialized Fast Trak tires tubeless. i really enjoy these tires in the conditions / trails i ride.

pictures will follow later.

LBS already put on the discs / tires and cassette, so sadly i have no weight info.
also didnt have time yet to weigh them with everything on.
 
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