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Quick Update. Day 3 with the Chisel. Loving it.

I knew it would be fast uphill (and it is).

But my big surprise, it's super fast downhill too. The faster I go ... the faster it challenges me to go. Like it is taunting me, "Don't touch those brakes."

I'm also surprised with how "compliant" the rear is off a small drop or baby rock garden.

When I bunny hop, the landing is strangely soft. Like landing on foam.

Anyway, I went TUBELESS today. First time ever. : )

It was very easy. Used Stan's fluid and valves. Rims were tubeless ready - already taped/sealed. Inflated with a hand operated floor pump.

Result of going tubeless ... dropped 3/4 of a pound.

Now the stock Chisel Expert in Large with pedals (XT Trail) and tubeless is 24.66 pounds.

Was initially concerned about gearing. Kept thinking I needed the "Eagle" bailout gear. Worried the NX 11-42 would not be low enough. My backup plan was to replace the cassette with SunRace CSMX8 11-46 for $55. So far no need. Went up the 2nd steepest hill on my trails today. The NX ate it up in 2nd gear. I'll try the steepest hill tomorrow. I call it "the east wall rockslide". : )

I keep thinking back to the Stumpjumper I demo'd and comparing it to the Chisel.

The Stumpjumper is like driving a big Suburban - you can plow thru anything.

The Chisel is like driving a Corvette - you will feel more bumps in the road, but you'll have a smile on your face flying down the highway

I'm loving this Chisel. My "little red corvette."
 
Update Day 4. Chisel Expert 1x.

Climbed "The Wall" today. Made it up the steep, loose rock, slippery climb. It's the steepest hill on my mountain. Did have to use the lowest stock gear (42) with stock 30 chainring.

Happy about this. Now I won't need the new NX Eagle 12 speed (very heavy 615g cassette). And I won't get the slightly lighter SunRace CSMX8 11-46 (485g). The stock NX cassette on the bike is NX (PG 1130 at 538g). Instead, I may opt for the SunRace CSMX8 11-42 at 405g. Or maybe just stick with stock NX, stop being a weight weenie, and have fun.

Note: Can't get lighter SRAM 11 speed cassettes since they require the XD hub.

See - too much analysis. Need more riding. : )

Just took first ride on tubeless tires. Surprisingly, was harsher than tubes. Rear tire kept slipping on steep loose gravel and rock. Makes it very difficult to keep balance and spin 3 times to go 1 rotation forward.

I think I might have the PSI too high for tubeless. Had 30 PSI in front and back. Might try lower.

BTW, 30 PSI was perfect for TUBED tires. To me, just right.

For my "old-timer" friends who are still riding 26 inch tires. First, keep riding. It's not THAT big of a difference. Second, here is my view.

29 inch wheel are slightly harder to get rolling on uphill (but very small difference). Once rolling, it's about the same as 26. The BIG advantage is downhill. The 29 inch tires roll MUCH faster.

I noticed it when riding with my son and friend. When I was on 26 and they were on 27.5 and 29 tires, they were able to keep up with me going down (never happened when they rode 26).

Now with my 29s, I am back on top ... and crushing my old times down and flat ... super fast.

Hope these posts are helping.

Get out and ride!
 
Anyone know where I can buy a Seatpost Collar with Quick Release Lever for the Chisel?

The size is unusual. The seatpost is 27.2 mm (common). But because of the thin aluminium, the clamp needs to be 30.8 mm (uncommon).

Asked my LBS. He could not find one.

I've not been able to locate online.

Anyone have a solution?
 
Answer to Seatpost Collar/Clamp Quick Release 30.8 size for Chisel.

Contacted Specialized by email (quick reply).

Asked: Does Specialized make a quick release seatpost collar that fits the Chisel?

Response: No.

And no recommendations for vendors who might carry the unusual size.

Bummer.
 
Update Day 5.



Rode up Mt Falcon today. 1,800 foot climb in 3.5 miles. Moderate level. Lots of sharp rocks, step ups, and mini jumps (waterbars).

Chisel rocked it up the mountain. Had a personal best time. This bike loves to climb.

And again, the downhill was a blast.

It is super fast ... and stable.

But you do have to choose your lines. I launched off an 18 inch water bar and landed between two sharp rocks. Found out that tubeless tires will get a flat when you hit the sidewall. Luckily it was towards the end of the ride.

Love launching this bike off small drops (1-2 foot). The bike lands "soft". The backend has flex built into the frame. It keeps reminding me of when I used to jump my old 2003 Epic FS.

I wouldn't take the Chisel off a 5 foot drop. Neither the bike nor I am built for that.

But small drops and bunny hops are a blast.

I'm 50, but this bike makes me feel like I'm a kid again.

Note: I'm giving a first weeks report ... because it seemed to me that a lot of people on the forum asked questions BEFORE they owned the bike, but did not report how the bike rode AFTER they owned it. I often searched the forums for reports on how the bike rode on the trail. Thought I'd try to fill the gap.
 
Has anybody here ridden the chisel vs. the epic hard tail back to back? How'd they feel?
I have not. However, I did review both.

To me it looked like Specialized rolled the Alloy Epic hardtail out and renamed it Chisel. The geometry is exactly the same. So I assume they ride very similarly.

Also, I'm not sure if this is true, but I found weights online that say the Chisel Expert in medium is 11.1 kg and the Epic Hardtail Carbon Comp in medium is 10.9 kg. Very close in weight.
 
Update Day 7 on the 2018 Chisel Expert 1x

This Chisel Expert is FAST!!!

... and SOOOOO much fun. : )



I've owned it for a week ... and riden it daily.

That was one of my goals. To get back in shape. This is helping.

Here are a few more observations.

SRAM. I have always had Shimano drivetrains and brakes. So I was concern about SRAM. I've heard mixed reviews.

After riding for a week, the SRAM drivetrain is excellent. Smooth shifting up and down. You work your thumb slightly differently, but got used to it fast. Love the 1x. Always did most of my riding in the first chainring in the past (old 3x) so the concept made sense to me (climbing was low gears and downhill was too fast to care). After riding 1x, it works. Low is deep enough for steep steep climbs and high is very fast.

That said, I ride up and down mountains. Not a lot of flat land where I live in Colorado. But if I was in Florida or the Great Plains, I might get a bigger chainring.

The SRAM brakes are working wonderfully. Slowing me down and fast stops even on steep descents. I like the modulation. Zero squeal. Very happy.

29 vs 26 inch wheels. All my bikes were 26 inch wheels before this week. So I thought 29 would be strange. However, I got used to them quickly. By the end of the first week, I like 29 a lot. Very very fast on downhill. Great roll over on flat. Good climbers once you get rolling.

I was conerned that 29 could not corner as well, especially in tight switchbacks. However, after riding the tightest steepest switchbacks (most with obstacles) both up and down, the 29s on this Chisel corners as well as the 26s on my old Epic FS.

Lower Back Pain. 25 years ago a drunk driver hit my car head on. Totalled my car. I survived with minor injuries, but chronic back pain. I've seen a chiropractor every week since to keep it straight.

So I was concerned about riding a hardtail and the jarring on my lower back. Always thought the answer was a softtail full suspension bike.

I was wrong. The hardtail is excellent for my lower back. Because you have to stand and use your legs and core on fast flats and descents, my back has gotten stronger (been riding a hardtail for the last 6 months). I might have occassional tenderness after riding the hardtail, but I was having pain on the softtail.

I think you get a similar transmission of bump vibration through the softtail and hardtail. I know that sounds weird, but that is my experience after evaluation both for a long time. Softtails don't make bumps go away. So I think it is easier to just assume it will be there when you are on a hardtail.

You kind of learn to rise off the seat in anticipation of a bump while climbing. And the direct power you get from a hardtail is incredible. I forgot how 1:1 the ratio is with a hardtail. Pedal down = wheel connects = move forward.

If you have back pain, I recommend getting a waterbottle holder and saddle bag to carry your tools instead of a camelback. It's easier on your lower back.

One more thought. LBS will not let you "test ride" a hardtail on the trails. Only the expensive carbon "softtails". I realize they do this to sell more expensive bikes. And I think it is so riders don't realize how excellent today's alloy hardtails ride.

Jumps. This bike loves to jump. Just took it off a 2 foot drop on sharp downhill grade. It landed so soft. I kept thinking "this is just like my Epic FS." After maybe a hundred jumps (small 1-2 foot) this week, the Chisel rocks.

Size. I am between sizes. I am 6'2" and 200 lbs. So the LBS says I should be on a XL. But I have a long torso and short legs with a 32 inch inseam and was concerned about standover height (don't want to get racked). So I rode both XL and L during testing and rode a lot. I took out 2 demo bikes on the trail (L Stumpjumper and XL Epic FS). And I test rode bikes at the LBS 5+ times around their "parking lot" and the nearby lake and hills. I looked for LBS near dirt. Went to one LBS that was super close to a singletrack trailhead and was able to test the Chisel on true trail. I was hooked.

My size conclusion was that I could definitely ride the XL. It felt big, but manageable. Liked it on the climbs. However I really noticed the difference on downhill jumps. I felt like I was reaching far forward and it was harder to pull up with my arms when jumping on the XL. Although it's only about 1 inch difference, the L just felt better. Easier to throw around. So I went with the L. After riding all sorts of terrain, L was definitely the right move for me.

I recommend you ride a lot of different models and sizes of bikes to see which one fits you and your style best. Especially if you can get on dirt or a real trail (bikes ride different on concrete and dirt).

The bottomline is I am LOVING this 2018 Chisel Expert 1x. I call it my little red rocket ... because it flies.
 
Mike2MTB I have eliminated lower back pain riding hardtail 29ers, now of course the Chisel. Getting up off the seat and peddling repeatedly has been by far the best thing that has ever happened to my back. I am 64 years old and I have a SJ FSR 29 Carbon also, but I ride the Chisel mostly.
 
Salsa Flip-Lock quick release seatpost clamp

Good call, ZigaK! Thank you! :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Typical Salsa, burley and beautifully made. It worked with no modification, but even fully open it squeezed the seatpost just enough to hold it a bit tighter than I like. This may have been due in part to the carbon paste I use to grip the carbon Cobble Gobbler post.

I used a Dremel and then some sand paper to take a little off the inside of the clamp. This released some of the clamping pressure remaining in the open position. Easier to move the post now. I'm still considering a dropper, but this will do in the meantime.

 
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