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#896 ·
So the left crankarm fell off on my 2019 Chisel X1 yesterday. More or less no warning, felt like a loose pedal for about 10 secs, then wham. This was on my commute home.

The bike has had a couple of easy training rides since I got it a couple months ago, but mostly short commutes to work, so it's only done 340km of easy pedalling.

Posted the scene on insta, and discovered that I'm not the only one this has happened to. Also saw there was a recall on 2017 Stout cranks, but not the same problem.

I retraced my ride on a different bike, and with a stroke of luck, I found the bolt. Cleaned, new loctite, and bolted it back together.

Anyone else experiencing this? Should I submit the crank to a float-test and find something better - if so, any recommendations?
 
#901 ·
I’m getting a Chisel, and much of that decision is in part to this thread, so thank you all.

I’m debating Comp vs Expert. I really don’t need the 12 speed 50t where I ride, so the drivetrain doesn’t really bother me ( I like Shimano better anyways). My biggest concern is the fork, is the Reba that much better than the Judy? Aftermarket price wise they are only about $100 difference so the tech can’t be that much better.

I can afford either model, but I don’t want to spend more than I have to - but don’t want to spend every ride convincing myself it needs to be upgraded right away. I do have a Syntace P6 Hiflex seatpost lying around that I will be putting on, regardless.

A little background; I’m not a racer, just a solid XC rider that appreciates more old school geo and a smooth ride.

Is there anything else about the Expert that makes it worth the jump?


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#905 ·
There is a surprising amount of weight in an off the floor Chisel so I would go with highest spec you can. 300g difference in the fork is huge. I built mine from a bare frameset with a mid to high tier spec; i.e. aluminum cranks and wheels. On the trail weight of my bike is 5 plus POUNDS lighter than a Chisel Expert I weighed at the LBS.

I'm getting a Chisel, and much of that decision is in part to this thread, so thank you all.

I'm debating Comp vs Expert. I really don't need the 12 speed 50t where I ride, so the drivetrain doesn't really bother me ( I like Shimano better anyways). My biggest concern is the fork, is the Reba that much better than the Judy? Aftermarket price wise they are only about $100 difference so the tech can't be that much better.

I can afford either model, but I don't want to spend more than I have to - but don't want to spend every ride convincing myself it needs to be upgraded right away. I do have a Syntace P6 Hiflex seatpost lying around that I will be putting on, regardless.

A little background; I'm not a racer, just a solid XC rider that appreciates more old school geo and a smooth ride.

Is there anything else about the Expert that makes it worth the jump?

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
 
#903 ·
Same question for me, Expert or Comp. I went with the Comp as I prefer Shimano shifting, as well realized the better fork on the Expert might not matter as I ride terrain that’s pretty much logs and roots with no, or few rocks, and no long downhills. If the fork was taking harder hits I would have gone Expert and learned about SRAM shifting.
 
#904 ·
My first Sram shifting experience was eagle and it's been great. The NX derailleur upper jockey wheel fell out three times but Sram sent a GX the last time and its held fast all last year.

SRAM turn around was also 1 business day. I've never ran Sram brakes and I'm still a Shimano guy as my newest bike has the new XTR but eagle works great.
 
#906 ·
370km of flat asphaplt commutes, and the Judy on my X1 Chisel has started clunking. Checked the headset bearings, def the fork inners.

Dunno if it's just my luck, but I've had issues with new RS forks for the last 6 years..

2014 Camber Evo:
Reba: The dreaded negative air issue, and silly poploc problems. Got a new by warranty.

2015 Enduro.
Pike RC: Top-out clunk. Never remedied properly

2016 Stumpy:
Negative air issues from beginning.

2017 Camber Comp Carbon:
Revelation RCT3: Negative air issue, RCT3 Fubar. Came with no oil in the lowers, and required service after 2 rides.

2017 Yari: came without correct oil and a leaky left leg. Was a new fork from shop. Has performed superbly since first service.

2018 Epic CC:
Reba: sticky since new, blew gaskets, and was replaced under warranty after 6 months for not being true. Had to make do with wrong offset.

Chisel 2019:
Judy 2019: clunckety-clunk before it's even run in.

Can't be random....
 
#907 ·
Ordered myself a new wheelset for my Chisel Expert 1x from 2018.

Through my local bike shop a handbuilt wheelset. DT Swiss 350 hubs / Rims also DT swiss (type was mentioned but i forgot and its not on the final invoice)

SLX discs / SLX cassette.

Currently running Sram Centerline discs and Sram NX cassette (11-42) but i wanted to built a lighter set, and the XD body + cassettes are kinda pricey to my taste.

So decided to go with Shimano for those components.

Delivery time is set to take around 2 weeks. will post some pictures when i get them in.
 
#940 ·
Ordered myself a new wheelset for my Chisel Expert 1x from 2018.

Through my local bike shop a handbuilt wheelset. DT Swiss 350 hubs / Rims also DT swiss (type was mentioned but i forgot and its not on the final invoice)
Well, after a few more weeks of waiting, the set finally was ready for pick up.

the wheelbuilder did remove all stickers from the rims and it isnt mentioned on the invoice, but i am told they are true DT Swiss parts. Although at this time i have no clue which ones.

DT Swiss 350 hubs
XT 11-42 Cassette
SLX Discs
Specialized Fast Trak tires tubeless. i really enjoy these tires in the conditions / trails i ride.

pictures will follow later.

LBS already put on the discs / tires and cassette, so sadly i have no weight info.
also didnt have time yet to weigh them with everything on.
 
#910 ·
Hey all,

Loving all the variations of builds in this thread and the reviews have only confirmed my decision. I was immediately drawn the the simplicity of the Chisel when they were first released and have just placed an order for a 2019 comp 1x in large. I am 6'2" and just shy of 190lbs. I measured up right in between L & XL however the large effective top tube was a bit over an inch longer than my current ride. This will be my first 29er and first brand new bike in 18 years.


Will try and throw some photos up once I pick it up.

Jeff
 
#915 ·
Our south facing trails dried up enough that I was finally able to ride the Chisel on some dirt single track. I may just need to get used to the bike some more, but my initial thought was that I need a shorter stem, and perhaps some different tires. Climbing is wonderful, but going down I just felt too far forward.

My large Chisel came with an 80mm stem. Not sure whether to go straight to 60mm, or try 70mm first.
 
#919 ·
My litmus test of handling came today.

I ride a trail system with a lot of flat'ish and very twisty and tight ST.

All of the prior rides on my Chisel since purchase in late Feb. have been solo. Today I rode with my 3 usual buddies, one of these guys often hammers and has good skills thru the tight stuff, so today was the day I find out if the Chisel can cut it following.

I was accelerating and turning better than ever and actually had my buddy stopping to let me pass.

So answer is, Yes the Chisel and the 29" wheels can do the ST as well as my 26" Stumpjumper which was my benchmark.
 
#920 · (Edited)
Anyone know if the Salsa Firestarter 110 Deluxe Fork or Niner Boost MTB fork will work?

The Salsa fork has 51 mm offset and 483 mm axle to crown length.

The Niner fork has 51 mm offset and 490 mm axle to crown length.

Specialized lists the offset on the Chisel Expert build as 51mm and the "fork length, full" as 506mm.

Ideally I'd like to get the Niner fork but am having a hard time finding one so I may have to get the Salsa fork. Will either work on this bike or will it make it feel weird?

edit: got this question answered by the LBS. He mentioned that 20% sag of the 100mm travel fork would nearly be the same length as the Salsa fork. Makes perfect sense and I felt silly for not thinking about that. I ordered a Chisel and Firestarter fork and hope to have it built up in 2 weeks.
 
#921 ·
hardly thinking on putting a 120 fork on my chisel. I heard that the frame is flexy, I feel it stiff. I weight 75 kg and when going downhill this fork feels soooo cheap and slow, can't feel the support on the Judy gold, it's my second bike, I got an AM bike.

Trying to decide on pike 29 120 or SID RL 120, any problems with warranty on upforking? Any disadvantage of running 120 mm?
 
#924 ·
Chisel large set up more cross country / race than trail. Enve M5 bar, 760mm width, 5mm rise with a Syntace 75mm stem, 6* rise. Happy with my weight distribution over the bike. I believe this setup is very close to the chisel expert. Great climbing stance but not too far over the front wheel during descents. Had same bar with 90mm flat stem which was great on climbs but a bit sketch downhill.