[AZmuchacho]

Do I need any special tools/or nuts to remove a cassette?

I need to take off a sram xg-1150 gx 11 speed cassette and then put on a new one of the same on my specialized fuse.

 

[WHALENARD]

You'll need-
- chain whip or similar tool to hold the cassette
-lock ring tool- I prefer a deep one for newer high range cassettes
-a wrench or ratchet to spin the the lock ring tool- I prefer a straight non angled box wrench for this job
-some high quality grease
-rags
-nuts- this job pairs well with cashews or macadamias but a nut brown ale is even better


Edit- I've never torqued a lock ring in my life. If your new to tackling this job it may be prudent to purchase a torque wrench and torque the lock ring to spec.
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[Lone Rager]

Yeah. Lock ring torque is more critical on the XD freehub as there's a lot of friction between the lock ring and cassette. It's pretty common for newbies to not tighten it enough so that the cassette is not fully seated.

 

[SqueakyWheel73]

Yeah. Lock ring torque is more critical on the XD freehub as there's a lot of friction between the lock ring and cassette. It's pretty common for newbies to not tighten it enough so that the cassette is not fully seated.

I've never used one of these, but if I was buying the tools now for working on my cassette, I think I would at least consider the vice whip before buying the chain whip. Anyone have any experience?

Pedros Vice Whip

 

[Cleared2land]

I have not used these, but have looked at them. I'm interested. I've been using chain whips for eons, but these could be next step.

 

[WHALENARD]

^Interesting tool for sure, but I've never handled one. My only concern with it would be potentially bending or spreading out the cogs? Again I've never used one.

I use another Pedro's tool though and prefer it over a whip

It's not as versatile as a whip though as the pegs are tooth count specific.

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[Lone Rager]

Yeah. I've used a whip forever. Recently I got the Feeback Sports cassette pliers. They're OK. A little easier to use than a whip, but really no issues with a whip.

https://www.feedbacksports.com/product/cassette-pliers/

 

[silentG]

Nirvana for removing and installation cassettes is a Park FR-5.2/5.2GT or similar, Vise Whip, and a 1" or 26mm socket.

You can do this with a regular chain whip but it seems like, in my experience, that you end up jacking around trying to keep the cassette tool flush to the cassette to tighten/loosen the lockring while keeping the freehub from spinning around.

While there are ninjas that can do it with a chain whip while blindfolded in a snow storm at night for me it always ends up being a three hand job for people with two hands.

Eff that noise I say, the Vise Whip makes the thing trivial.

 

[Sparticus]

I've never used one of these, but if I was buying the tools now for working on my cassette, I think I would at least consider the vice whip before buying the chain whip. Anyone have any experience?

Pedros Vice Whip

I have a Pedro's Vice Whip and I'll never use anything else again. AWESOME tool.

I got tired of buying chain whips every time cassettes added more speeds and chains got narrower and narrower. Chain whips had to do likewise. Plus their grip is iffy compared to the Vice Whip.

I'm exaggerating just a little. But just a little. Get a Vice Whip. Do heroin.
=sParty

 

[silentG]

Truth!

Think hip hop pool party from a 90s music video

 

[flash4092]

From where I sit, the suggestion that a chain whip becomes obsolete with the transition to ever narrower chains is pretty misleading. A whip with a wider chain is still always going to fit on the smallest cog no problem...

 

[SqueakyWheel73]

I have a Pedro's Vice Whip and I'll never use anything else again. AWESOME tool.

I got tired of buying chain whips every time cassettes added more speeds and chains got narrower and narrower. Chain whips had to do likewise. Plus their grip is iffy compared to the Vice Whip.

I'm exaggerating just a little. But just a little. Get a Vice Whip. Do heroin.
=sParty

Sounds like I have found my next tool purchase

 

[wschruba]

From where I sit, the suggestion that a chain whip becomes obsolete with the transition to ever narrower chains is pretty misleading. A whip with a wider chain is still always going to fit on the smallest cog no problem...

They fit on almost anything else on the wider end of the cassette, too--as long as the path of the chain on one sprocket doesn't overlap a smaller one. I regularly use a chain whip with 9-speed chain on 12 speed bikes.

 

[Lone Rager]

FWIW: Some old whips have chains with pins that stick out making engagement 9+ speed cassettes less than perfect.

 

[wschruba]

FWIW: Some old whips have chains with pins that stick out making engagement 9+ speed cassettes less than perfect.

These are only typical on stuff below 7 speed. [Modern] 8 speed stuff is more or less flush, and 9 is.

Hopefully you wouldn't choose to actually *use* a vintage chain whip, but to each their own, I guess.

 

[Lone Rager]

^^^ Yes. An enterprising individual can replace the old chain on chain whip with segments of a more current variety.

Personally, having ridden and wrenched since '70, I've seen and used many tools that are now vintage, along with me.

 

[Cleared2land]

^^^^ You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Lone Rager again.