[westadamsvets]

N+1

Indeed, the search for the single perfect bike fuels every new purchase and subsequent continued search...it's a fun search and would be better if I didn't hate selling my old bikes that I'm not really using.

 

[Tama John]

 

[Ratt]

...Who else takes a while re-calibrate between E and Mtb.

The bike handling part usually calibrates in the first turn, when the braking and turn-in feel from the 25 lb weight differential is quite noticeable. What takes a while for me is to slow down going uphill or just stop. I get a lot of mental fatigue going uphill at 10+ mph, my heart rate is low, legs feel great, but I have to rest my mind for bit. My mind can feel slightly "off" on the ebike. Finally figured out my uphill 'climb' was about the same intensity as going downhill.

 

[Horseshoe]

I get a lot of mental fatigue going uphill at 10+ mph, my heart rate is low, legs feel great, but I have to rest my mind for bit. My mind can feel slightly "off" on the ebike. Finally figured out my uphill 'climb' was about the same intensity as going downhill.

This is a great way to put it. My e-mtb rides tend to have a lot fewer breaks and a lot more of going from chunky downs directly into steep chunky ups. The mental aspect of staying on your game for extended durations is another aspect of e-mtbs that is hard to quantify, but in some respects hopping on my traditional bike the day after a long e-mtb ride is kind of a mental break even if physically I may not be working as hard.

 

[plummet]

The bike handling part usually calibrates in the first turn, when the braking and turn-in feel from the 25 lb weight differential is quite noticeable. What takes a while for me is to slow down going uphill or just stop. I get a lot of mental fatigue going uphill at 10+ mph, my heart rate is low, legs feel great, but I have to rest my mind for bit. My mind can feel slightly "off" on the ebike. Finally figured out my uphill 'climb' was about the same intensity as going downhill.

I'm running 20mm bigger rotor on the E. 220/200 compared to 200/180. So when I jump between the 2 stopping power feels similar.

Re going faster uphill or more to the point being constantly in high focus mode. For what ever reason I enjoy the total hyperfocus of slamming up and down hill for the entire ride. Zero mental rest apart from easy fireroad sections. I don't know why but I find that focus easier than switch on/off hyperfocus for up/down hills on the pedal bike.
I guess that see/do reacting of high speed down is what I love the most about riding down. Getting some of that on the up is oh for awesome. Maybe the adrenaline is flowing constantly rather than peeks/troughs of pedal bike slow up fast down?

 

[McShred]

I'm running 20mm bigger rotor on the E. 220/200 compared to 200/180. So when I jump between the 2 stopping power feels similar.

Re going faster uphill or more to the point being constantly in high focus mode. For what ever reason I enjoy the total hyperfocus of slamming up and down hill for the entire ride. Zero mental rest apart from easy fireroad sections. I don't know why but I find that focus easier than switch on/off hyperfocus for up/down hills on the pedal bike.
I guess that see/do reacting of high speed down is what I love the most about riding down. Getting some of that on the up is oh for awesome. Maybe the adrenaline is flowing constantly rather than peeks/troughs of pedal bike slow up fast down?

Extremely demanding technical climbs on the ebike are one of the unexpected joys for me. I think it turns trails that are both super physical and technical into really interesting riding, rather than try once get gassed and walk. 'Normal' trail ride climbs also have a huge amount of fun injected as well.

 

[.WestCoastHucker.]

for me the next bike feels strange for about 10 seconds. i swap between a bmx, roadie, e-bike and my DH bike pretty much on a day to day basis though...

 

[Mrwhlr]

A lot of people don't work hard enough to trigger their brains to release the good stuff, because it hurts getting there.

 

[Jack7782]

Even super-fit athletes need a rest day (or an easy day on the Ebike) as part of their training

 

[Tama John]

A lot of people don't work hard enough to trigger their brains to release the good stuff, because it hurts getting there.

Sounds like a you problem.

 

[westadamsvets]

Had an unpleasant dismount from my emtb other day trying to get better at wheelies... I go back and forth between the ebike and a regular hard tail... The wheelie is my only trick, LOL

 

[chadbrochills]

I ride my ebike much more than I ride my normal bike. The biggest issue for me isn't so much weight difference, but more so wheel size difference as the Heckler is a mullet setup while the 5010 is straight 27.5". When comparing the two bikes side by side, they're roughly the same height at the handlebar, but the smaller wheel is very noticeable when riding the 5010. Takes a bit to recalibrate.

 

[plummet]

I ride my ebike much more than I ride my normal bike. The biggest issue for me isn't so much weight difference, but more so wheel size difference as the Heckler is a mullet setup while the 5010 is straight 27.5". When comparing the two bikes side by side, they're roughly the same height at the handlebar, but the smaller wheel is very noticeable when riding the 5010. Takes a bit to recalibrate.

Yeah, I have that too.
27.5 slayer to pole Voima in mullet.

Also the Voima is slacker with 190/190 travel, its longer more stable and handles chunk way better. But it's like a bus job the tight tech. So I have to really yank it around. I get back on the slayer and almost yank myself off the track because I'm putting it way too much steering input.

 

[chadbrochills]

Yeah, I have that too.
27.5 slayer to pole Voima in mullet.

Also the Voima is slacker with 190/190 travel, its longer more stable and handles chunk way better. But it's like a bus job the tight tech. So I have to really yank it around. I get back on the slayer and almost yank myself off the track because I'm putting it way too much steering input.

Yup!!

 

[Blownoutrides]

Jumped back on my Slayer after a couple weeks of Pole Voima action. (190mm travel full power E for those that dont know)

Wholy farken responsive batman! It took me about 3 shuttle runs to recalibrate back into the pedal bike.
My goodness I almost, crashed multiple times yanking too hard on the bars because I was used to manhandling a 25kg monster truck around.

Now my slayer is light for an enduro bike 13.5kg and has some stiff as carbon wheels. It is really playful and really, really responsive. You have to be precise piloting it compared to the E. But be precise and the rewards are awesome. Its so much fun. So positionable on the trail manualling through stuff, poping over stuff. Awesome!
On the positive side for the 190mm e-bike. Fark me. its a chunk crushing speed maniac. That machine is fun AF too in a different way.

After I recalibrated back into the bike I had a blast. The slayer is not being replaced by the Voima. The both will complement each other.
I'll get my playfull throw the bike around riding on the slayer and monster truck speed and chunk swallowing im the Voima.

Who else takes a while re-calibrate between E and Mtb.

My Voima is so different from my Amish rig it was legitimately dangerous to switch from the Pole to the beer/pizza powered bike. Jumping is the problem as you mentioned - I end up yanking the poor motorless ride to the moon and wind up all kinds of sideways in the air. Switching back and forth is sketchy AF.

interestingly there’s very little adjustment needed to go from regular bike to the heavier eeb. It’s going from heavy to light that’s problematic.

 

[plummet]

My Voima is so different from my Amish rig it was legitimately dangerous to switch from the Pole to the beer/pizza powered bike. Jumping is the problem as you mentioned - I end up yanking the poor motorless ride to the moon and wind up all kinds of sideways in the air. Switching back and forth is sketchy AF.

interestingly there’s very little adjustment needed to go from regular bike to the heavier eeb. It’s going from heavy to light that’s problematic.

Well my bike mix has changed since my original post. My shortest travel bike is a Deviate claymore 175/180mm and i've added a Trek Session dh rig 200mm. I'm hopping between the 3 so its its not a major change.

But if i ride one bike for a while the others do feel weird for a lap or two.

 

[Blownoutrides]

Well my bike mix has changed since my original post. My shortest travel bike is a Deviate claymore 175/180mm and i've added a Trek Session dh rig 200mm. I'm hopping between the 3 so its its not a major change.

But if i ride one bike for a while the others do feel weird for a lap or two.

What did you do with the voima??

 

[plummet]

What did you do with the voima??

Sorry, I wasn't clear. I still have the Voima.

 

[Steve Adams]

I enjoy the different experience. Been riding mtb at a reasonable level for 30 years. I've ridden every which way of those last 30 years. I'm looking for a new experience.
I'm not going to be giving up the natural experience, just augementing it with E.

Exactly Plummet. Why take one side or the other. that's just idiotic. enjoy all bikes. They are all way more fun than walking, car, bus, etc. That's all that matters. Ride.

 

[plummet]

Exactly Plummet. Why take one side or the other. that's just idiotic. enjoy all bikes. They are all way more fun than walking, car, bus, etc. That's all that matters. Ride.

Indeed, Ironically since these posts i've fadded more back into mtb with less E, Been dh racing with my boy and loving time on the dh rig, I've also changed out the enduro bike for some high pivot goodness and been enjoying the hell out of that too. My mix is 70% mtb and 30% e at the moment.

I'm loving the quiver of bikes and the action they are providing.