[oxcartdriver]

same here , no frame only from two LBS. Considering other options A (SB5.5c, hightower), B wait until spring to try again

 

[oxcartdriver]

I'll likely just wait for spring and look at options again in April. The tires still turn on my present bike.

 

[Stupordave]

2 rides on the new Switchblade and have to say I'm impressed. Very similar to my Mach 6 in climbing and descending but this rails corners far better. I'm currently setup with 29" wheels and the 17 mm cup. Feels just a tad light in the front on steep climbs so thinking of dropping to the flush cup and bumping the fork travel to 160mm. Anyone tried both setups? Hate to give up the extra bottom bracket height for technical climbs and the slacker head angle for the chutes but think I'm suffering a bit on the climbs. What cup are most folks running in 29'er mode?

 

[schmittypods]

same here , no frame only from two LBS. Considering other options A (SB5.5c, hightower), B wait until spring to try again

I have a 429 trail that I love but now I'm wondering if more is better. The 429 takes everything I've thrown at it but still I'm curious.

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[Pigglet13]

2 rides on the new Switchblade and have to say I'm impressed. Very similar to my Mach 6 in climbing and descending but this rails corners far better. I'm currently setup with 29" wheels and the 17 mm cup. Feels just a tad light in the front on steep climbs so thinking of dropping to the flush cup and bumping the fork travel to 160mm. Anyone tried both setups? Hate to give up the extra bottom bracket height for technical climbs and the slacker head angle for the chutes but think I'm suffering a bit on the climbs. What cup are most folks running in 29'er mode?

I'm running mine with the 17mm cup, forks at 160, a 40mm stem and 30mm riser bar. Mine out climbs every other bike I've ever owned or ridden (mostly XC bikes) to the point where my mates think it's got a motor stashed in one of the tubes. I'm 5'10 on a large. The front end goes light but it's never actually come off the ground without me wanting it to. It's the climbing ability more than the DH ability that really blows me away with my bike simply because I didn't expect it to be so good.

 

[Pigglet13]

I have a 429 trail that I love but now I'm wondering if more is better. The 429 takes everything I've thrown at it but still I'm curious.

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Switchblade is very different geometry wise so will put you in a different position on the bike if you go like for like on sizing. I didn't like the relatively short reach on my 429 and the slack seat tube . The Switchblade is a chunk longer and that, more than the extra travel makes a huge difference for me in both climbing AND descending. I find I'm in a more efficient position for climbing compared to the 429 which I reckon helps negate some of the extra heft plus the longer and slacker front end makes things easier/faster on the really steep stuff. Before the Switchblade came out I was probably going to buy a Ripley LS but the extra reach of the SB swung me in that direction.

 

[jmd97]

I have been reading and researching everything about the Switchblade that I can find. It sounds like an incredible bike. Right now I have a pivot Mach 6 in size med. I have almost always rode a size med. In any brand I have owned, except for an older ibis SLR that I rode a large since the frame was very small, (I am 5’8” tall). My dilemma is, any bike shops around me carrys no stock. So I can’t size it. The online dealers that I have talked to tell me I need a size small. I know the numbers are different than the Mach 6, but My Mach 6 is a perfect fit, and the best bike I have ever owned. But I am ready for something new, (love the idea of the plus tires). It just seems crazy to go to a size small, and can’t get this wrong with a $7500.00 purchase. Is there anybody with opinions on the SB sizing?

 

[matrix311]

I have been reading and researching everything about the Switchblade that I can find. It sounds like an incredible bike. Right now I have a pivot Mach 6 in size med. I have almost always rode a size med. In any brand I have owned, except for an older ibis SLR that I rode a large since the frame was very small, (I am 5'8" tall). My dilemma is, any bike shops around me carrys no stock. So I can't size it. The online dealers that I have talked to tell me I need a size small. I know the numbers are different than the Mach 6, but My Mach 6 is a perfect fit, and the best bike I have ever owned. But I am ready for something new, (love the idea of the plus tires). It just seems crazy to go to a size small, and can't get this wrong with a $7500.00 purchase. Is there anybody with opinions on the SB sizing?

We were just talking about sizing tonight. I'm 5'8 and ride medium switchblade and it's perfect. My buddy has a large switchblade and I tried it tonight and it felt way big to me. I say go medium and call it a day.

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[Flat Pedals]

I'm also 5'8" and own/ride a medium Switchblade. I'm longer in the torso than the legs. My inseam is 30". I also ride medium Trail 429 and I did own a Mach 6 in a medium a while back. All of these bikes I believe were the "right" size despite the differences in geometry. If you have a shorter torso, the SB could be a little long coming up from the short top tube and reach of the Mach 6. Though you can easily move down to a 35 or 40mm stem from the stock 60mm which would pull the bars in for you. The only thing I would be concerned about if you have a very short torso. That could be an issue but if you are running the stock 60mm stem on the Mach 6 then there is a very good chance you'll be fine on the SB with a shorter stem. The SB has shorter seat tube than the Mach 6 so you should be good there. If you need more reassurance, look to see if a Pivot Demo is headed your way or travel to a shop that you know has one in stock. Yes--at $7500 I understand the concern.

 

[techfersure]

I'm also 5'8" and own/ride a medium Switchblade. I'm longer in the torso than the legs. My inseam is 30". I also ride medium Trail 429 and I did own a Mach 6 in a medium a while back. All of these bikes I believe were the "right" size despite the differences in geometry. If you have a shorter torso, the SB could be a little long coming up from the short top tube and reach of the Mach 6. Though you can easily move down to a 35 or 40mm stem from the stock 60mm which would pull the bars in for you. The only thing I would be concerned about if you have a very short torso. That could be an issue but if you are running the stock 60mm stem on the Mach 6 then there is a very good chance you'll be fine on the SB with a shorter stem. The SB has shorter seat tube than the Mach 6 so you should be good there. If you need more reassurance, look to see if a Pivot Demo is headed your way or travel to a shop that you know has one in stock. Yes--at $7500 I understand the concern.

There have been many comments on SB sizing,but to rehash my experience I too have a Mach 6 in large but purchased SB in medium and fits in cockpit almost dead on as my Mach 6.I did ride a large,way too long for my comfort but sizing is a personal choice, the only right size is what best suits you.

 

[Stupordave]

Good to know. Thanks. I'm also 5'10" but on a medium with a 50mm stem. My Mach 6 is a large. The medium fits well. Don't get wrong, it climbs great but does tend to wander a bit more uphill than my Mach 6. Perhaps I'll just drop the bars a bit lower and change the fork travel rather than switching cups.

 

[techfersure]

Good to know. Thanks. I'm also 5'10" but on a medium with a 50mm stem. My Mach 6 is a large. The medium fits well. Don't get wrong, it climbs great but does tend to wander a bit more uphill than my Mach 6. Perhaps I'll just drop the bars a bit lower and change the fork travel rather than switching cups.

'm 5'11"

 

[jmd97]

Thanks for everybody’s opinion. At 5’8” with 30” inseam, I’m right in the split between Small and medium on the pivot chart. But since I hate the feel of being squeezed into a tight frame, I thing I’ll go for the med. I have a hard time believing a small SB will feel the same as my medium Mach 6. The only thing that worries me is that I have seen a couple of people put there switchblades up for sail for being too big. It’s a real problem having four shops around me and none of them keep high end bikes in stock. They all seem to be moving in to service repair shops to make their money, and not keeping bikes on the floor. There all happy to custom order bikes in with no guaranty on sizing.

 

[techfersure]

Thanks for everybody's opinion. At 5'8" with 30" inseam, I'm right in the split between Small and medium on the pivot chart. But since I hate the feel of being squeezed into a tight frame, I thing I'll go for the med. I have a hard time believing a small SB will feel the same as my medium Mach 6. The only thing that worries me is that I have seen a couple of people put there switchblades up for sail for being too big. It's a real problem having four shops around me and none of them keep high end bikes in stock. They all seem to be moving in to service repair shops to make their money, and not keeping bikes on the floor. There all happy to custom order bikes in with no guaranty on sizing.

I am fortunate to have a shop that have bikes like the SB in stock when I bought mine,got to ride a medium and large.I traditionally ride large but went medium for one of the best fitting bikes I have owned, 33.5 " inseam at 5'11". Would be smart to find one to ride before laying cash out.

 

[Miker J]

Good to know. Thanks. I'm also 5'10" but on a medium with a 50mm stem. My Mach 6 is a large. The medium fits well. Don't get wrong, it climbs great but does tend to wander a bit more uphill than my Mach 6. Perhaps I'll just drop the bars a bit lower and change the fork travel rather than switching cups.

Really?

My M6 is a very good climber for its travel, but it does require attention to keep the front end from wandering. So, the SB is even more floppy on the steep climbs?

 

[Pro Bike Supply]

I've ridden it with the 17mm cup and without (both in 29er guise). With the cup there is a definite floppiness to the steering (more so than most 6" bikes I've ridden). When I first removed the cup I was pretty set on extending the travel to 160mm, but after a few months on the 150mm I'm in love and don't want to change anything. I'd say without the cup it isn't more or less floppy than a Mach 6, but riding a 29er uphill always feels a little different than riding a 27.5 bike.

 

[matrix311]

I've ridden it with the 17mm cup and without (both in 29er guise). With the cup there is a definite floppiness to the steering (more so than most 6" bikes I've ridden). When I first removed the cup I was pretty set on extending the travel to 160mm, but after a few months on the 150mm I'm in love and don't want to change anything. I'd say without the cup it isn't more or less floppy than a Mach 6, but riding a 29er uphill always feels a little different than riding a 27.5 bike.

So are you keeping the cup in or out as your final ride choice? I'm on 29er with the 17mm cup and enjoying it as is.

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[rossp]

Thanks for everybody's opinion. At 5'8" with 30" inseam, I'm right in the split between Small and medium on the pivot chart. But since I hate the feel of being squeezed into a tight frame, I thing I'll go for the med. I have a hard time believing a small SB will feel the same as my medium Mach 6. The only thing that worries me is that I have seen a couple of people put there switchblades up for sail for being too big. It's a real problem having four shops around me and none of them keep high end bikes in stock. They all seem to be moving in to service repair shops to make their money, and not keeping bikes on the floor. There all happy to custom order bikes in with no guaranty on sizing.

I am 5'9" with a 31" inseam and I test rode a medium which felt great. I had plenty of height to spare with the dropper post (I had it a good few inches above the collar) - unless you prefer a smaller bike, I would say medium is good for you.

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[Mingloid]

Really?

My M6 is a very good climber for its travel, but it does require attention to keep the front end from wandering. So, the SB is even more floppy on the steep climbs?

I'm 5'8" and came from a small M6. Although I felt better on a medium, I picked the small because I wanted a 5" dropper on it.

I'm now on a medium SB with a 5" dropper and feel that climbing the steepest stuff is much better on the SB. The front stays down, and it gets around the tightest switchbacks better. Just got back on a 2 week road trip to Moab and Crested Butte, and the SB was good fun on whatever we rode (it's fast too!).

 

[Buffalo Soldier]

Thanks for everybody's opinion. At 5'8" with 30" inseam, I'm right in the split between Small and medium on the pivot chart. But since I hate the feel of being squeezed into a tight frame, I thing I'll go for the med. I have a hard time believing a small SB will feel the same as my medium Mach 6. The only thing that worries me is that I have seen a couple of people put there switchblades up for sail for being too big. It's a real problem having four shops around me and none of them keep high end bikes in stock. They all seem to be moving in to service repair shops to make their money, and not keeping bikes on the floor. There all happy to custom order bikes in with no guaranty on sizing.

Probably the best size for you. I'm on a medium - 5'11", 35in inseam. My 428T is a large. You may have done this but I made a spread sheet from current and past bikes with a focus on ETT and reach.

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