Coming May 31st, according to Pivot website. Any ideas what it is?
My old Titus Switchblade was one of my favorite bikes ever.
My old Titus Switchblade was one of my favorite bikes ever.
Pivot Switchblade
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Curious why you think it's under shocked and how the X2 will be better? Are you unable to to get the feel you want with the built in adjustments and by adding spacers? I got the same impression as kenwood72... Pivot seemed to think people don't need it, they just want it.
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The climbing switch performance on the X2 is pretty crude. Even on my 6" travel bike I have no interest in fully locking out the shock. The climbing switch on the CCBDA seems like a better solution.
Review: Fox Float X2 | BIKE Magazine
Worth looking into before dropping a lot of $$.
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I trail ride, but on the downs the shock gets warm. I'm considering a Float X. I think the X2 would be over kill for me. Has anyone put spacers in the DPS?
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Response from Chris Cocalis,
The DPS shock is fantastic for all around trail riding and is how 90% of SB will be used. The Float X has a bit more oil volume for better heat dissipation but the DPS system works better overall. The Float X2 kicks ass. However,it is expensive and requires the rider to read instructions and pay attention to their setup ( which again, the majority do not ) When set up correctly is in a different league.
I also agree that the most aggressive riders, well informed riders will benefit from the RC2 damper but out of every 1000 bike sales, there's maybe 25 people that know enough or are willing to take enough time to set the fork up in a way that would have it working better then the Fit damper fork. Both are great but Fit 4 is user friendly.
Couldn't have said it better myself. I fit into the catagory of aggressive and informed rider who enjoys tinkering with suspension setup. Will be offered soon to buy separately in the near future.
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Awesome, detailed response! Thanks for posting!
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Float X2
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Man the Float X2 is an impressive shock. I knew it would be great, but the difference from the Float DPS is night and day for me. Hiline Trail in Sedona was a proper first impression ride on this thing for me. Small bump compliance is through the roof offering a level of rear wheel traction and stability that I have not really felt before. When pointed downhill its ability to maintain composure from repeated high speed impacts to hucks to flat is well... extremely impressive. Going uphill, the climb switch provides a pretty stable pedaling platform without giving up too much small bump compliance. I've found I will use this more for long fire roads or less technical singletrack climbs. All in all... two thumbs up. A very worth while upgrade IMO.
Man the Float X2 is an impressive shock. I knew it would be great, but the difference from the Float DPS is night and day for me. Hiline Trail in Sedona was a proper first impression ride on this thing for me. Small bump compliance is through the roof offering a level of rear wheel traction and stability that I have not really felt before. When pointed downhill its ability to maintain composure from repeated high speed impacts to hucks to flat is well... extremely impressive. Going uphill, the climb switch provides a pretty stable pedaling platform without giving up too much small bump compliance. I've found I will use this more for long fire roads or less technical singletrack climbs. All in all... two thumbs up. A very worth while upgrade IMO.
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US frame price is different by $500 between these two models, now add the fork price differences, wheels costs, and there you have it.
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Sweet,In the very near future for me,did you install the Rc2 cartridge too?
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No, FIT 4 in the fork... For now.
interesting response, from a person who had a 15 and 16 fox with rc2 I tried and tried to get it to feel right and never could. I did everything I could even went to a local tuner who works for fox. when I got my 2017 fit4 I couldn't believe how good it feels, I was never able to get the rc2 to feel as supple off the top with the support it supplies, all I did was add a blue spacer. I actually added an avy cart to my 2016 rc2 and think the fit4 feels better than the avy but maybe I am in the minority.
the one thing is do see as an advantage with the bigger air shock is definitely fade, the x2 is definitely more burly and that simply makes for a better ride on long runs.
the one thing is do see as an advantage with the bigger air shock is definitely fade, the x2 is definitely more burly and that simply makes for a better ride on long runs.
agreed. i have had a 15 and 2 16 36 rc2's and i could never get them to feel right. it was either divey or way to harsh. i now have the fit 4 on my switchblade and firebird and it is night and day better.
glad to hear that as it proves i am not crazy!!
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Here's mine
And me in action
Check out the front tire folding in. First time riding tubeless and on a plus size wheel. Is that normal? :skep:
Just ordered my Switchblade in 29er flavor with alloy wheels and the XT/XTR build kit.
I just can't decide if I want to upgrade to the x2 shock or stay with the dps evol. I ride Arizona in the desert southwest with lots of chunky, hard packed rock. I like to climb and do more of an all-mountain trail system. I dont do any bike parks or major downhill stuff, so would it be wise for me to go to the x2? How will the x2 climb vs the dps evol the SB ships with? Figured if they are offering it at a minimal cost vs new I may try the upgrade but if its to much shock for me, i may not get it. Thoughts on the x2 vs dps evol?
I just can't decide if I want to upgrade to the x2 shock or stay with the dps evol. I ride Arizona in the desert southwest with lots of chunky, hard packed rock. I like to climb and do more of an all-mountain trail system. I dont do any bike parks or major downhill stuff, so would it be wise for me to go to the x2? How will the x2 climb vs the dps evol the SB ships with? Figured if they are offering it at a minimal cost vs new I may try the upgrade but if its to much shock for me, i may not get it. Thoughts on the x2 vs dps evol?
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I've never been on plus size tires but would think more pressure would be in order. At speed in chunky conditions you'll probably be looking at a flat or possible dented rim. That said, I've heard of many riders slightly changing how they ride plus tires over time, thus negating some of the folding issues. Nice bike by the way!
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I've had fat tires 8yrs+ and plus tires 3yrs+. You'll have to tune your tires for the speed you ride. Bigger tires are essentially an air spring with no rebound control. So you have to pick a pressure that doesn't collapse when you are hitting rocks or landing off jumps and such, but that gives you traction and doesn't bounce you off obstacles. That pressure will depend on your weight and how fast you are charging.
Get an accurate pressure gauge and play around with your pressures and see what happens. It can be a bit tricky to find a pressure you are happy with for slow speed rock crawling and high speed charging. Keep some notes as to what you like and don't like until you hone in on a pressure for each tire that works best for you.
Enjoy the new bike. :thumbsup:
i called Pivot and there is no set up to upgrade the shock for a particular fee as other companies do they want full price for the shock. what is funny is the guy told me 630 for the x2 and then i don't even get to keep the original shock. anyhow i am going with the standard shock and if i want to experiment later i will get an x2 from somewhere like universal once they are in stock. can't wait to ride the bike though.
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If you ride year round having a back up shock ain't the worst thing in the world.
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