[techfersure]

The current SRAM XO1 157 DH hubs have the hub flanges pushed out. They did this on their own, before Chris approached them to do this. Chris presented the idea of pushing the flanges out to nearly every hub maker, as it only makes sense to have wider flanges for 27.5 and especially for 29 wheels. I9 and DT Swiss were the first to jump, and it just so happened that they make the hubs for the Reynolds Carbon wheels.

Funny no one seems to grasp that the Sram DH 157 is a great choice if you want to build a wheelset now,52 engagement and can be had for 275.00 if you shop around.

 

[alh]

Does anyone know if you can run "typical" 2.35 tires in the 27.5 format on the SB? The BB height may be too low but I heard the tire height difference compared to the 2.8's isnt too much. Also, if you were to run the Fox 36 in a 160 mode with the spacer for the 27.5 tires could you raise the BB enough to make it work with the 2.35's or would it throw everything off geometry-wise?

I actually talked to Pivot the other day asking this question. They don't recommend it as the BB would be too low. I think someone on this thread did throw on some narrow 27.5s and saw how low it was decided not to even ride it in that config.

 

[alh]

I loved going to creek with the Mach 6. It can handle most of it but it does have its limitations. I think the transition you mention is a little lower, longer and slacker. What gives the SB its ploughability for me is the 2.8 tires. I'd be wary of a longer fork unless it didn't upset the geometry too much given the local trails and the need to do all those techy rock moves.

Talked to Pivot the other day and they said they 160 fork should slacken the HTA by 1/2 degree. So seems like it should work.

Curious what limitations the M6 had at Creek? During berms, drops, other?

 

[Isildur]

So, I've managed to tee up a Switchblade demo bike for the weekend here in Aus, pretty stoked to be playing with a new bike Will it replace either of my 429SL or Mojo HD3? Who knows? Or will it slip in between them somewhere

But, question! I'll be demoing the bike in 650+ mode, first time on wider tyres. What kind of pressures are you all running? I'm 70kg without kit, probably about 73kg with kit.

Cheers!

 

[Mingloid]

I've got a switchblade on order in 29er flavour but have yet to see one in real life. Can anyone answer the following, what hubs do the carbon wheels come with and are they 6 bolt or centre lock rotor mount?
Are the carbonrims asymetric?
Anyone got an absolute black oval chain ring and if so what bcd do I need to order for the aeffect cranks?
For those building up wheels for the bike what rear hub are you using? I've got a set of ibis 942s I want to put on it but looks like boost 157 isn't an option?

I've had a bike on order for 6 weeks now and I'm like a kid on Christmas Eve. Still no idea when they will be available in the UK and no one seems to actually stock pivot bikes which is a bummer! Hoping it's gonna land soon but want to get the aftermarket parts ready to bolt straight on.

Mounted the Absolute 32T Black Oval ring (Cinch) on my Aeffect crank. The chainring comes within a hair's breadth of the chainstay. A 30T (roughly equivalent to a 32T on a 27.5 bike) chainring would be a much better fit, or a 32T in Boost spacing.

Enjoy your SB!

 

[Pigglet13]

Thanks mingloid. I guess the ab ring can't be flipped like the race Face ring to give the correct boost spacing.
Sounds like the sram xo 157dh is the h7b to go for at the minute then. Thanks for the info Dan. About another 3 to 4 weeks to go before I'll have my paws on the bike. Arrgghhhh the wait is killing me.

 

[techfersure]

Thanks mingloid. I guess the ab ring can't be flipped like the race Face ring to give the correct boost spacing.
Sounds like the sram xo 157dh is the h7b to go for at the minute then. Thanks for the info Dan. About another 3 to 4 weeks to go before I'll have my paws on the bike. Arrgghhhh the wait is killing me.

Have a AB 32t on mine,yes tight fit to CS but no issues with with chainline,shifts mint with no adjustment from 30t. Now feel the gearing is proper for a bike of this caliber.

I built up a 27.5 + wheelset and put XT cassette from 29er wheelset on it and have a XTR 11-40 with Oneup 45t on 29er setup like this for more XCish and much lighter to.

 

[ecibis]

Please let us know how it goes! i'd like to hear how it compares to the HD3 especially. thanks!

 

[RE50]

I know this has been asked a lot but I am placing my order possibly Monday, the 29er version.
I'm 5'11 but with longer torso and a 31" inseam. the stack height and reach is similar to my Cannondale Jekyll large. on the Jekyll the SH is around 23.5 and the reach is 18"
I like to use shorter stems, I was thinking about 35" stem for it.
anyone on the large around the same height?
also does anyone on here live in FL that owns a Switchblade?

 

[techfersure]

I know this has been asked a lot but I am placing my order possibly Monday, the 29er version.
I'm 5'11 but with longer torso and a 31" inseam. the stack height and reach is similar to my Cannondale Jekyll large. on the Jekyll the SH is around 23.5 and the reach is 18"
I like to use shorter stems, I was thinking about 35" stem for it.
anyone on the large around the same height?
also does anyone on here live in FL that owns a Switchblade?

I to am 5' 11" with 33" inseam using 65mm stem. I rode a large and felt to long and I like short cockpits. In comparison with my large Mach 6 center of stem to top of seatpost center dead on the same length,with top of saddle to top of pedal with crank arm vertical.

 

[RE50]

I'm going to order the Large SB, kind of nervous because I cant get my hands on one to see about the fitting.
again I'm 5"11 with a longer torso...
the reach on my current bike is just shy of 18" and the stack height is around 23.5

ant 5"11 riders on a large SB and if so what do you think?

 

[alh]

Per Competitive Cyclist sizing chart (or is that Pivot's?), you would be a medium. My son is 5'10-5'11 and when we went to a Pivot Demo Day, they fitted him on a medium. FWIW.

 

[wilks]

I'm 5'11" and have a longer torso. I felt the medium was a tad small. Although on paper it's bigger than my L Mach 6. Would rather a L SB with short stem.

 

[RE50]

Per the Pivot website;

X-Small: 4'11" – 5'4"
Small: 5'4" – 5'8"
Medium: 5'8" – 5'11"
Large: 5'11" – 6'3'
X-Large: 6'2" +

wilks,what size stem did you go with?

 

[bugaroo]

Any idea why Pivot didn't offer other Fox shock choices for the SB?

 

[wilks]

Per the Pivot website;

X-Small: 4'11" - 5'4"
Small: 5'4" - 5'8"
Medium: 5'8" - 5'11"
Large: 5'11" - 6'3'
X-Large: 6'2" +

wilks,what size stem did you go with?

I'd likely settle on a 35-40mm stem I think. Not 100% there yet.

 

[edbraunbeck]

Any idea why Pivot didn't offer other Fox shock choices for the SB?

Fork or Shock? To my knowledge, they have never offered shock choices in their build kits.

 

[Isildur]

So, my impressions of the Switchblade after getting lucky enough to play with it for a full weekend. First up, my current rides are:
- XMI Play IP-057 Rigid 29er
- Pivot Mach 429SL Medium w/ 120mm fork, 70mm stem and 710mm bars.
- Ibis HD3 Large w/ Pike 160mm & CC DBAir CS, 50mm stem, 740mm bars.
- Pivot Phoenix DH Aluminium, Medium
- Most recently before those was a Pivot Mach 5.7C that I rode for 4 years before scoring a deal of a lifetime on the HD3 frame. Before that was an original Mach 4.

My personal specs are that I'm 178cm, 32" riding inseam (wear 30" pants), slightly longer torso than leg proportion, 70kg w/o gear.

Switchblade Setup - Medium frame, Fox 36 150mm fork, 60mm stem, 740mm bars, Reckon 2.8", settled on 16psi rear and 14psi front.

And I should definitely preface by saying that a weekend is not enough to really get a a bike dialled, but that I also was able to ride in enough places that I'm familiar with (5 hours at Stromlo and 4 hours at Majura Pines in Canberra for the Aussies here) to get a very good idea of the pro's & con's of this bike.

I reckon my summary would be that this bike would be a great "one bike to rule them all", if I was ever unlucky enough to have to sell up all my bikes and reduce the stable to one.

The geo is very dialled, the Medium fit me and my style perfectly. I would run a 50mm stem, but the 740mm width was perfect.

Personally, I didn't get on with the Plus tyres. In wide, open and flat corners, the grip was outstanding. But on the berms and fast stuff, I found them quite a bit harder to muscle the inherent momentum through. Especially along fast flowy descents (Skyline at Stromlo is a great example), the bike just wanted to track a more straight line, rather than flick where my hips and shoulders were trying to shift the bike. On fast berm to berm transfers, especially with hip jumps in between, it took a lot more work to make that transfer happen.

The real killer for me was that the bike/tyres seemed to drop momentum on gradient reversals, the snappy "quick pedal" that I'm so familiar with in DW-Link bikes and have grown to love over the last 7 years just wasn't there. Think of coming out of a berm, and facing a gradient reversal and couple of rollers (at Majura Pines, on Barry, just above the split to the DH trail), the bike just slowed majorly, and a quick pedal didn't sort it.

Now, with all of that said, I wish I had a chance to play with this in 29'er mode. It would absolutely slay the type of riding I like to do!

It's a great in between bike, and a great do-it-all bike. I also wouldn't hesitate to recommend it, even in plus mode, to someone who wanted to simply "have fun" and be able to ride anything with confidence. The Plus tyres really do rail and would, I'm sure, with practice let me take some sketchier slow lines due to the width and volume on hand.

Would I grab one? No* Sydney has either XC trails that are perfectly doable on the 429SL, or steep sandstone descent trails that the HD3 loves with aplomb. (*Sure, N always = N+1, but unless the aforementioned poverty ensued, it's too much in the middle for my kind of riding).

my 2c, take it for what it's worth (haha, really not much in the world of the internet!)

 

[Fadl]

Someone already tried fitting a 200x57 rear shock into the frame?

 

[godfather]

Fork or Shock? To my knowledge, they have never offered shock choices in their build kits.

Not shock options on a specific build kit, but different build kits with different shocks has been done. The Mach 6 can be purchased with a standard Float DPS, or a Float X. I'm surprised too, that the Float X isn't offered on any of the SB kits. Surely the frame is capable of being ridden hard enough to gain the advantages offered by a reservoir shock.

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