Would that achieve the same geometry changes I take it?


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rode the sb a ton this weekend, lots of climbing and descending. impressive bike to say the least. i got slowed down on a couple runs so i can't compare all out speed but it climbs and descends a lot better than i expected. i did a 15 mile downhill run today that is a lot of flow type corners and some steep rocky stuff here and there and the + tires grip and the bikes corners well. anyhow great bike really impressive and it just simply fits me. i put a 3rd spacers in the x2 and used the fox settings for my air pressure and for my fork i have 2 orange spacers and about 90 psi. may be able to go down on the fork a bit but overall it feels great. if you want a review i would say 5 starts i am glad i got this to go along with the wreckoning as it is a completely different ride and once it start raining the plus tires will be a lot of fun.

 

i know the SB is relatively new to the pivot lineup
asked my lbs if they could get a '16 and was told that it just came out this year.
i thought SB debuted last year.

 

Minor niggle but not ideal on a six grand bike. On the plus side it is the most accomplished all round bike I've ever ridden. Cleaned technical climbs I've never been able to clean before and set a pr on a long draggy fire road climb which I wasn't expecting. Wasn't trying too hard either. I'm loving the geometry, the longer front centre is exactly what I've been waiting for in a 29er trail bike. What a bike! Putting my hope stoppers on it as soon as the adapters land, was carrying a chunk more speed than I have been on the 429!

 

I just installed my absolute black 30t oval chainring last night. Fits fine and shifts fine. Taking it out for a spin tonight to test it out. I don't anticipate any problems.

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Nice pedals!

 

Thanks! Tonight will be my first ride out on flats in almost 2 years so i'm a little nervous. I'm so used to clipless. Guess we will see how I do.

 

Hello all, I just wanted to chime in that we did have a batch of rubberized protectors with bad curing of the adhesive to the rubber and if you have a bike with peeling issues just contact us and we can send replacement parts out (free of charge). Best contact is either to call us, have your dealer call or use email ( info@pivotcycles.com. )
Ken B

 

The rubber on the struts? Mine have been peeling since day one I just didn't really think much of it

 

Can someone give me an idea of the SB weight on the XTR 1x configuration? With Reynolds carbon hoops and all?
And If someone has the weight of the bike on the new xx1 eagle configuration would be awesome.

I built mine last week (xt/xtr 2x) and with pedals (atlas flats) and it weighed 13.6kg.

Thanks in advance

 

...And If someone has the weight of the bike on the new xx1 eagle configuration would be awesome...

Is it available with Eagle now? I've been waiting for that to make a purchase. I don't see any updates on their website.

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I am going to Moab and trying to decide if I bring the 275+ sb or my wreckoning....before I got the sb I didn't think I would consider bringing it but now I think it may be there better bike. Anyone ride both bikes in Moab?

 

You could for sure take either bike.

 

I finally spent a day on the Switchblade 29" out in Loma and the Lunch Loops.

It felt like a well pedaling plow bike, that took quite a bit of effort to throw around. I ride a 429 Trail in ways I should not ( Snowmass, Winterpark, Keystone ), and had a chance to pedal around Noah's SB at Snowmass aways back... it was a large and it was huge.

I finally demo'd a medium and felt cramped. I'm going to demo a large next time and bring along some of my own setup/parts 30" bars, 40mm stem. I was so hoping the SB would be a cross between by former ( and beloved ) Mojo HD and my current 429 Trail, but so far it just isn't to be. The short rear end of the SB is nice off the back of the bike, but the front end felt like pushing a fridge around. Granted i'm on a 429T currently which is really easy to throw around and poppy for a 29er. Hopefully another go on a large with some tweaking might sort it out for me, otherwise i'll just keep the 429T and look for a more dedicated rig to race in the BME next season.

@Noah, any pointers on setup, specifically on the front end?

 

If anyone is interested in selling their alloy 27.5+ wheelset please pm me. I have the 29er SB version now and im interested in getting the 27.5+ wheelset as well if someone is not happy with them.

 

i have eagle on my wreckoning and although it is a great option my biggest concern is parts. if I break a der the only one that is gonna fit is eagle whereas with shimano in a pinch there are a bunch of options and availability and cheaper costs. I kinda regret the purchase due to the fact once I have to change anything out it is gonna cost a ton.

 

Anyone interested in stock aluminum DT swigs 350 wheel-set with tires for Switchblade
OR if you want just the Boost 110 and 157 hubs to build your own let me know..

 

Look 2 posts up. I'm interested.

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Anyone interested in stock aluminum DT swiss 29r 350 wheel-set with tires for Switchblade
OR if you want just the Boost 110 and 157 hubs to build your own let me know.

EDIT: Its the 29r stock wheelset

 

This bike is overweight

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This bike is overweight

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I forgot to mention I also upgraded to the x2 vs the factory dps evol it ships with standard. It sure doesn't pedal or feel like a 30lb bike I can tell you that much.

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Why are bikes getting over weight every year?

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Why are bikes getting over weight every year?

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Don't know if you're a troll or not (some people in other threads sure think you are!), but since when is a stiff 135/150 travel bike with a Fox 36 fork, a dropper post, and big, meaty tires at 30 pounds on 29" wheels considered heavy? Show me something from previous years that could do what this bike can do at under this weight.

 

I picked up a Santa Cruz 5010 27.5 under 27lb. Why are you upset? What is wrong with you.?

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The difference in weight between your 5010 and the Switchblade frames is maybe 1lb or less than a 1/2 kilo.

The biggest difference will be in tires.
Do you run a 36 fork on your 5010? Didn't think so...
30lbs in this category with some proper fork, shock and tires will make the difference.

 

I 100% agree. This bike doesn't feel heavy it does however feel extremely solid, nimble and fast. Tge best possible scenario if they had shaved carbon and nerfed the fork would have been 27 lbs. this is a big boy bike for big boy trails. I bought this full well knowing that it was 30 pounds, I have my 25 pound Ripley gathering dust.

 

I kind of get what he is saying about the weight. My Mach 6 is just a hair under 27 pounds and can handle just about anything. I would have to demo one first, but it isn't very motivating going backwards 3+ pounds.

 

I also went backwards from my previous bike to this switchblade. The added weight is hardly noticeable and the stiffness of the frame and wheels is very noticeable. I do not regret my purchase at all. It certainly doesn't ride like a 30lb pig. Once you see this bike in person you'll see why it's 30lb. I don't think one person who owns this bike has complained about the weight factor.

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SB is ineeded bit portly, but so are all those heavy hitting 29ers. No way around it really. If you put burly fork and tyres its going to be heavy.

That's why I think those bikes are better left at 26 or 27.5". You can get same stiffness and durability with 1.5-2kg less weight.
29ers excell in trail category with ~700-800gr tires and relatively lightweight wheelset with complete build about 12kg, but burlier longer travel 29ers easily surpass 14kg and can only get to about 13kg with extremely costly buil like 10k which is ridiculous.

 

I want to see the 27lb Mach 6 build sheet. Do you have slicks and a non dropper post ? Mine is 29.4 lbs and full XX1. Carbon bar. TI railed Rocket V, XT brakes and pedals, 125mm reverb, I9 hubs. E13 TRS tires. The Arc 27 rims are a little heavy but not bad compared to 30-35mm inner width carbon rims.

 

My 2016 Mach 6 (size small) was at exactly 27 lbs with a KS 125mm dropper and Specialized Grid tires (Pergatory front, Ground Control rear). XT/XTR 1x11 build, stock DT Swiss carbon wheels, Next SL Carbon cranks. Closer to 28 lbs now with more aggressive tires and OneUp chain retainer. Can't imagine a better all around bike for my trails/riding style and ability. Sub 27 is absolutely doable... it's only money.

 

Picard appears to be a troll. Just look at his series of one-phrase nonsensical comments/questions on this thread. I think he's safe to add to the ignore list.

I no longer own a Switchblade so I don't have a dog in the fight. I do think that anyone who has a complaint about the weight hasn't actually ridden the bike. Most size L bigger-travel 29ers with a dropper and real tires are roughly in the 30-ish pound range. Some a pound or two lighter. Some a pound or two heavier

 

Whatever he is, you're right about safely ignoring him.

I just built a XL SB5.5c. It came in at 31 and 1 oz with Onyx hubs, a GX cassette, and a DD casing tire. I could easily drop 2+ lbs with a lighter wheelset, cassette, and EXO tires, and will probably do that in the spring for XC/trail duty. Anywhere between 28 and change and 32 seems reasonable for this category, depending on intent and wallet.

 

Interesting....


For as many years as I've been riding, and am pretty picky about my set up, I've never weighed my bikes.

I look at the weights of individual components when that may help with which one to chose, but once you pick a frame and parts, what's weighing going to do? Like, are you going to pull off that brand new XT shifter for an xtr just because your bike weighs over 30 pounds. Chose a reasonable frame and parts for your trail and style and the weight, well, it is what it is.

Point is, I have more fun on my bike than most, without weighing it. So, stop weighing your bike.

 

For as many years as I've been riding, and am pretty picky about my set up, I've never weighed my bikes.

I never weighed a bike before my Pivot. I decided to see if it was worth the hassle. I weighed everything and picked parts with function, durability and weight in mind. I dropped over 7lbs off my previous bike with a sub-28lb build.

It's been 3yrs since that build and I've given some thought to whether it was worth it. Both from a cost and a hassle point of view. It definitely was. That bike is a joy to ride especially as the days get longer and I am more out of gas.

When I get my next bike I'll go through the same process. It's easy to add a bunch of weight onto your rig without realizing it if you are not diligent about tracking frame/parts weight.

That said I only paid attention to weight during the build process. Since I picked solid parts other than replacing tires, chains and brake pads I'm still riding the original build. I could have gone lighter, but I am not interested in breaking stuff regularly.

If you don't want to pay any attention to bike weight I get that and I wouldn't suggest you should. OTOH if it matters to you and you want a light bike it makes sense to me.

 

What happens if you catch a pebble in that area with teeth so close to the chainstay? I would imagine one rough stone could potentially cause nasty crushing damage to it if you're unlucky.

 

Or a stick, or anything else for that matter.

 

25 miles and 1800ft elevation today and this bike rocked it!

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Great climber for sure did 55 miles and 8000 ft of climbing last tuesday for some great desents!