Coming May 31st, according to Pivot website. Any ideas what it is?
My old Titus Switchblade was one of my favorite bikes ever.
My old Titus Switchblade was one of my favorite bikes ever.
Pivot Switchblade
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Just bought the acs-3 kit for my 36. Will throw it in this weekend and provide some feedback. Been running the MRP ramp control kit for a while now...and while it works great to improve the small bump sensativity when set perfectly, you almost have to adjust both positive and negative pressures every ride. I think the small volume in the negative chamber is really susceptible to elevation and temperature changes. I do a lot of riding with 4,000 ft elevation changes so may not be a big deal for most. Plus it’s 60 degrees in Denver one day and can be 90 the next.
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Since you nailed it, any guesses on new SB? As you know, I kinda went gaga over the FB29 (such an awesome bike) and it has the new style frame. Since the big bike has the new style frame and the baby bike (T429) has the new style frame, shouldn't the unloved, forgotten middle child get one too?
An XL with 50.5 reach would be the jam. Sure, it's pure vanity, but the new style frame looks so much better than the pregnant belly Pivots. Speaking of which: maybe it could go on a small diet; I'm not talking an XC diet, more like a: you shouldn't weigh as much as a FB29 diet. The SB is such a great bike, I'm not sure anything else really needs changing.
I can get with metric and 1x only, but, maybe it's just my svelte 225pounds, but one thing I'd never accuse Pivot of is having flexy frames.
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Cant wait to hear your feedback on the acs 3 stupordave. About to pull the trigger myself
So to get this clear , riders don’t like the SB in the 27.5 plus mode? I’m asking because I run my SB with 29ers stock DT hubs and 2.35 HR II. With the Fox 36 set at 160mm using the 17mm cup spacer.
I’m going to build and I9 wheelset but can’t decide on the plus size or building it in the 29 er and using 29x2.6 tires. I like to be able to play around and get better on jumps, I also live in FL. I just need a little input to decide... I rode the plus sizes for an hour liked it but not enough time to get the feel. Also I can not get my hands on a plus size SB to try
I’m going to build and I9 wheelset but can’t decide on the plus size or building it in the 29 er and using 29x2.6 tires. I like to be able to play around and get better on jumps, I also live in FL. I just need a little input to decide... I rode the plus sizes for an hour liked it but not enough time to get the feel. Also I can not get my hands on a plus size SB to try
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Interesting that you used 17mm space with 160mm fork and 29 wheelset in Florida, I never used the 17mm spacer with 160mm travel fork for both 29 an 27.5 with very little issues on pedal strikes here in rocky knar east coast Pa. Do a 27.5 plus wheelset for sure gives the SB another element of playful fun. I raced Enduros on the 27.5 plus on certain courses that were technical and rooty.
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ACS3 on Switchblade
Installed the push ACS3 coil conversion yesterday and got a ride today on my backyard trails, which are likely some of the toughest trails to find a good suspension balance given the loose and embedded rocks on just about every section. It's brutal on the hands due to the relentless rocks and one section is like roller skating on baby heads down the side of a mountain.
Fork set-up at 160mm, with the cup installed. I'm about 200 geared up and went with the green spring, no spacers, 25 psi in the air bumpstop. I was shooting for small bump compliance with good mid stoke support for aggressive riding. Sag came out to just about 20% with 30% for the rear.
So far, I'm fairly impressed with the ride. It's an absolute improvement over the '17 stock 36 FIT4. I do think I may have been able to achieve a little better bump sensitivity with the MRP set-up but it had poor mid stroke support and required me to set pressures almost every ride. I had minimal hand fatigue at the bottom of the dh run and it tracked the terrain well. On the loose down, I had minimum skating and felt like I could push it pretty hard. There are only a few jumps and basically one 2' drop to flat but I normally blow through all my travel on this run with the MRP set-up. I had about an inch left with the ACS.
Only one ride, but it just felt right...they way a suspension fork should. Dead silent, supportive but soaked up what I was throwing at it. Pretty happy with the conversion on day 2. If you've got the new Evolve set-up with grip2 damper on your Fox, I might not make the switch as that one feels great as well, but this is a great upgrade for the '15-'17 Fox Float 36's. Brings me back to the Marz Z1 Bomber days but it a stiffer, lighter more capable package.
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Installed the push ACS3 coil conversion yesterday and got a ride today on my backyard trails, which are likely some of the toughest trails to find a good suspension balance given the loose and embedded rocks on just about every section. It's brutal on the hands due to the relentless rocks and one section is like roller skating on baby heads down the side of a mountain.
Fork set-up at 160mm, with the cup installed. I'm about 200 geared up and went with the green spring, no spacers, 25 psi in the air bumpstop. I was shooting for small bump compliance with good mid stoke support for aggressive riding. Sag came out to just about 20% with 30% for the rear.
So far, I'm fairly impressed with the ride. It's an absolute improvement over the '17 stock 36 FIT4. I do think I may have been able to achieve a little better bump sensitivity with the MRP set-up but it had poor mid stroke support and required me to set pressures almost every ride. I had minimal hand fatigue at the bottom of the dh run and it tracked the terrain well. On the loose down, I had minimum skating and felt like I could push it pretty hard. There are only a few jumps and basically one 2' drop to flat but I normally blow through all my travel on this run with the MRP set-up. I had about an inch left with the ACS.
Only one ride, but it just felt right...they way a suspension fork should. Dead silent, supportive but soaked up what I was throwing at it. Pretty happy with the conversion on day 2. If you've got the new Evolve set-up with grip2 damper on your Fox, I might not make the switch as that one feels great as well, but this is a great upgrade for the '15-'17 Fox Float 36's. Brings me back to the Marz Z1 Bomber days but it a stiffer, lighter more capable package.
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Awesome to hear stupordave! I’m about 185ish in the summer time and have been really leaning towards this acs3 for my 2016 36. I have been playing around with every pressure and setting possible for a while now, and while I dont think its bad by any means I just really expected more. Biggest issue is small bump compliance on high speed wash and roots, just feels way more harsh than I had imagined. I have 1 orange and 1 blue volume reducer in with 60 psi using almost all the travel and i’m not hucking 4ft drops. Really contemplating the acs3 and fox dpx2
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I did not like b+. Great drive traction in loose stuff but
1. Rekons were too fragile
2. Either too reboundy or squirmy.
3. More robust tires felt draggy
But others like b+. Others swap out wheels and tires depending on how they feel and what trails they ride. For me it was an expensive experiment. Some destination spots keep both wheel sets on hand for demos.
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I didnt care much for b+ either. Traction is great just too slow feeling. Hard to beat the fast rolling 29er and with the ability to run a 2.6 traction isnt much of a worry either
I was wondering why I bought the bike with plus wheels after switching over to 29 about 6 months ago. Then I rode a really really rocky trail yesterday (Gambrill near Frederick MD) and my 3.0 Plus WTB rangers and man it was great. The 36 is not the most supple fork and those big tires at low pressure took the edge off the sharp rocks. And incredible climbing up the rocky stuff. You're not going really fast on these trails where the big rubber will bend over. So I think there's a place for experimenting with Plus but i will usually run 29.
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If you have 2017 it's worth opening the fork and setting it to 160mm. Larger negative air volume and check if there's too much grease in negative chamber.
Don't use spacers or use just one and increase pressure. The fork feels better with more pressure and 15-20% sag. I'd say use 80PSI and no spacers if you're not hucking to flat.
Dude, I love mine in 27.5+ mode. It's way fun. I love having both wheel sets just to change things up from time to time. I run 29er more often, but when I switch back to 27+ the bike just feels more playful. The lower center of gravity, the Spiderman like traction, the extra plush ride the plus tires create. It's more fun to air it out in plus mode. Feels very jumpy with the slightly smaller diameter tires. And if I ever bend a rim, I've got another set of wheels to keep me rolling until the replacement is obtained. I'd suggest definitely extending the fork to 160. It does make the plus mode more fun in that it helps reduce the pedal strikes. If you're getting the I9 system wheels, might I suggest the turquoise hubs with dark green spokes? Looks sick AF!
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Gambrill and the Shed are where I tested plus tires and found them too bouncy and fragile. 2.5 tires with Cushcore give the same traction with better protection and no bounce.
I already have the fork set to 160mm...with the 17mm cup...im getting 19 hubs red with red Spank Oozy rims...staying away fro the system just case I want to rebuild into the 29er...I live in Tampa Fl...were we have technical terrain and drops ...Alafia State Park and Santos Trail head...how bad are the pedal strikes going to be? I tried a set for an hour, loved them but it wasn't enough time to make rational decision, right the reason I'm thinking of the B+ is because I want something more playfull..and our switch backs are tight. could also be the fact that I'm in my fifties its kind like having an AARP card
do you have a picture of a set with the turquois hubs and green spokes?
Another thought would be to try a 29X 2.6?
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In order to change from 150 to 160 on the fox 36 is it just removing the upper airshaft and adjusting it to the next spot where it pins? Dont have to do anything in the lower? I was able to find videos on reducing travel but not adding travel.
You have to remove a spacer in the lower as well. There's a YouTube video that shows how to reduce the travel. Basically do the opposite to add travel. Here's the video.
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So I took the switchblade into a shop near me that is a pivot dealer and talked to the owner/mechanic. He said he would have to call fox and get back to me about changing the travel from 150 to 160 and mentioned I would probably have to buy a new airshaft in order to do it? Does this sound right? I was under the impression you just pull it out and adjust the current parts. It is a 2017 model fox 36. Also for those of u set at 160 do u reccomend running the 17 cup or the 0? I run the 17 currently with the 29ers and really like it. Not sure if adding 10mm of travel would make the front end too light. Really curious what the head angle would be at too?
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Your dealer is incompetent and/or mistaken. As noted in earlier reply, going from 150mm to 160mm on a 2017 36 requires the removal of a spacer. You don't need a new air shaft.
Doing so will slacken you head angle by about 0.4 degrees. Removing the 17mm cup and adding back 8mm via your now 160mm fork (10mm of travel minus 2mm of sag) will effectively reduce your stack by 9mm = steepening your head angle by ~ 0.4deg.
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