I will stick with my RC31 for now thanks.

P::..

 

You mean you had a custom built around it.
I know someone who's having a 29"er built around the same fork dimensions, getting the Ti one, very bling.

 

Yep, price of the 29 will be (about) the same as the 31 ti according to the Dutch distributor.

(claimed) sizes and weights:

RC29 465/42 750 gram
RC31 440/41 695
RC31 ti 440/41 600

 

Looks like (QBP pricing) the 29" carbon fork will cost the same as the newly announced 26" Ti fork, or 17.8% more than the standard 26" one.
Making the Pace 29" retail well over $400 I'mmsure, or at least $60 more than the 26" version.

Typo or 25 really expensive mm's?

Claimed weight for the RC29 is 750g over 695g for the RC31, so possibly they reinforced it somewhat rather than just sticking 25mm longer tubes on it. But are cheap carbon fork more expensive because more carbon was used ? ;-)

None are in stock at QBP right now, and it doesn't when, so don't ask
465mm a-c, 42mm offset, so KM fork 468/43 owners shouldn't be able to tell the steering difference. Almost a pound weight less and some cush more though, I would expect.

I assume it is reinforced as the 29 will take a 185mm rotor but the 31 can only take 165mm max. I agree the price hike is a little cheeky.

 

cheaper

bikeman is showing it at about 345.00

 

spoke w/ bikeman

I talked w/ someone from bikeman late last week when I saw the dirty thirty ad in dirt rag. He said they were able to sell them a little cheaper because they are doing a 69er and were able to get them straight from Pace as OEM and could order and sell them without the frame. Thus bypassing QBP and their markup. He also said they would probably have them before Quality did. Mid December for bikeman and I just got an e-mail back from Pace saying just after Christmas for QBP distribution.

 

Ahah, so they're really investing into this!
Below the Carver 96'er text :

"Full Suspension frames are coming soon!"

SIGH...

 

covering R&D costs?

perhaps they are more expensive to cover the design costs and the fact there will probably not the economies of scale with relation to the 26" products.

Though you have to wonder how many 26" forks make per batch.

 

I assume it is reinforced as the 29 will take a 185mm rotor but the 31 can only take 165mm max. I agree the price hike is a little cheeky.

I've not seen that info anywhere and at 2 grams per mm of extra length I don't think they've done much more reinforcing than necessary.

 

Looks like (QBP pricing) the 29" carbon fork will cost the same as the newly announced 26" Ti fork

Any talk of them doing a 29" ti fork?

 

Are you ready spend $60 more for that still? A 650g fork the price of a complete Redline 29" bike? Hmm, I'd love one

 

69er carver

Yeah, the bike was reviewed in the same issue of dirt rag. Towards the back of the mag.

 

Are you ready spend $60 more for that still? A 650g fork the price of a complete Redline 29" bike? Hmm, I'd love one

Absolutely! $60 for 100 grams is a steal! And then there's the whole issue of not having to worry about your fork suddenly failing catastrophically because you clipped a rock outcropping with it a few months back.

 

R&D costs

Despite what many might think, the RC29 fork is unique and is taking extra time to build, test and develop. Pace also took the needed steps to take proper liability insurance out for the US market.

I'll gladly wait the needed time and pay the extra few dollars to get it right. I can't wait to put one on my 4 lb Dos Niner frame. That bike is just going to fly - rigid & light with a little give.

Jason
Salsa Crew

 

rigid & light with a little give.

Jason
Salsa Crew

Sounds like my wife's dream....

(sorry.. just had to make an off colour comment.)

 

I talked w/ someone from bikeman late last week when I saw the dirty thirty ad in dirt rag. He said they were able to sell them a little cheaper because they are doing a 69er and were able to get them straight from Pace as OEM and could order and sell them without the frame. Thus bypassing QBP and their markup. He also said they would probably have them before Quality did. Mid December for bikeman and I just got an e-mail back from Pace saying just after Christmas for QBP distribution.

NOT TRUE...I'd like to find out who you talked to. We are getting a few RC29 forks (probably in late January) that will ONLY be sold with frames and complete bikes. In the meantime, we (and a whole lot of other people) are anxiously awaiting QBP's shipment. We saw them at Interbike, and I can tell you this.. they're worth waiting for!

 

I've not seen that info anywhere and at 2 grams per mm of extra length I don't think they've done much more reinforcing than necessary.

The info came from Pace. The RC 31 info is on their website and I emailled them about the RC 29, specifically about 185mm rotor use .

 

The info came from Pace. The RC 31 info is on their website and I emailled them about the RC 29, specifically about 185mm rotor use .

Yes I knew about the RC31 but no info was on the site for the 29.
Fair enough.

 

Absolutely! $60 for 100 grams is a steal! And then there's the whole issue of not having to worry about your fork suddenly failing catastrophically because you clipped a rock outcropping with it a few months back.

Has anyone ever heard of an actual PACE rigid fork failure?

Evidently ti has failed...(pic from SS board)

That said, I rode a XACD 660g 468mm rigid fork for 1.5 years HARD with no incident. I am pushing the scales at 155lbs though, and I could get the fork to flex.

Bet it would be scary for a 180+ pounder...

LP

 

That's why Hubert ordered an XACD fork with all-1.55mm tubing. In stead of sub-600g it came in at 750g or so. Still flexy, but it SHOULD help to have some more material there, and for the welds to hold on to.

 

I have heard of one Pace carbon ridgid fork fail on a Uk forum.
True/false who knows.
Lots of big people ride them with no problems.
It's the only Carbon part I am thinking about fitting.

 

I can see carbon as a fork material for a road bike, but not for mtb.

I have ridden thousands of road miles on both steel and carbon road forks, and carbon is stiffer yet harsher.

My new Waltworks rigid fork is amazingly compliant; and is very light.

I don't think that the legs will snap off as in the picture if that Ti fork.

 

IMO, most of the comfort from a Carbon fork comes from the steer tube. This is only based on my observations on the road bike. When I got my new road frame and fork last year, I got a fork with a carbon Steer tube. I immediately noticed it had more dampening than a steel steer tube. That said, would I trust a full Carbon fork off road? In a word, No. The idea of having the bike fall against a rock and damaging the carbon weave is much to scary for me.

 

Evidently ti has failed...(pic from SS board)

That looks to be an XACD (or something similar), and perfectly sums up why I am waiting for a reputable builder to build a 29" ti fork. Sounds like James @ Black Sheep is on it anyway, so I better start saving my pennies.

Bet it would be scary for a 180+ pounder...LP

Was that targeted at me? I can certainly feel the extra holiday pounds on the trail, but I never thought they would be obvious to others simply through my message board postings!

 

Has anyone ever heard of an actual PACE rigid fork failure?

Evidently ti has failed...(pic from SS board)

That said, I rode a XACD 660g 468mm rigid fork for 1.5 years HARD with no incident. I am pushing the scales at 155lbs though, and I could get the fork to flex.

Bet it would be scary for a 180+ pounder...

LP

A close friend of mine found a hairline crack in the crown of his RC31. Pace was great about it and offered him a replacement.

Sooo....not a catastrophic failure but a failure nonetheless

I'm still gonna be buying the RC29 the day it comes out

B